billyanok

Is it possible to have 2 separate Max versions on a windows machine?

Hello,
 Is it possible to have 2 separate Max versions on a windows machine?
I don't want to fully commit yet to 8.2?
Thx!
B

8-1-and-8-2-on-windows-10-machine

yes. before installing the update rename the folder containing the Max.exe from Max 8, to something like Max 8.1.11, then install the update. This folder should be in some path like c:/program files/cycling 74/

in the other order, it doesn't seem possible.

I installed 8.2, thinking that it will not destroy 8.1.11..

.It should be my fault but I thought I ask for another folder.;

nevermind. I wanted to reinstall 8.1.11 for some bug hunting..

Install impossible. because 8.2 is already on the computer, the install of 8.1.11 closed with this kind of message..

It's not a big problem..but I have to unsinstall 8.2 / reinstall 8.1.11/ reinstall 8.2.

in the other order, it doesn't seem possible.


I installed 8.2, thinking that it will not destroy 8.1.11..
.It should be my fault but I thought I ask for another folder.;
nevermind. I wanted to reinstall 8.1.11 for some bug hunting..

Install impossible. because 8.2 is already on the computer, the install of 8.1.11 closed with this kind of message..
It's not a big problem..but I have to unsinstall 8.2 / reinstall 8.1.11/ reinstall 8.2.




.. Here, with windows 10, if 8.1.11 and 8.2 are installed in the same computer and you go in setting "install or desinstall programs" (don't know the name in english) only 8.2 is listed..

On windows one should not install Max if one wants to work with multiple versions.

Rather extract msi installer into some directory, and move or copy max folder

to wished location, renaming main folder to reflect version, like Max-8111 for example.

That way that install-deinstall-reinstall windows mess does not know anything about max installation.

I copy all DLLs that would get installed into system to Max folder itself.

And at the end all max 8 versions share same user preferences, db etc etc files,

so it can happen that things get messed up when using different max 8 versions.

On windows one should not install Max if one wants to work with multiple versions.
Rather extract msi installer into some directory, and move or copy max folder
to wished location, renaming main folder to reflect version, like Max-8111 for example.
That way that install-deinstall-reinstall windows mess does not know anything about max installation.

I copy all DLLs that would get installed into system to Max folder itself.
And at the end all max 8 versions share same user preferences, db etc etc files,
so it can happen that things get messed up when using different max 8 versions.



yes, it's should be more "user friendly" to install several versions in the same time.

I bet my "error 126 loading external XXX" is related to this double install 8.1.11/8.2..

So, excuse me if I don't understand well the procedure, what do I have to do for a clean uninstall of 8;2 and 8.11.11 and a clean reinstall of both ? How do I "extract msi installer" ?

Even when I say to the installer to install somewhere else 8.1.11, when I install 8.2 after, saying the installer to install elsewhere, the 8.1.11 folder is deleted...I never saw programs that act like that..

yes, it's should be more "user friendly" to install several versions in the same time.
I bet my "error 126 loading external XXX" is related to this double install 8.1.11/8.2..

So, excuse me if I don't understand well the procedure, what do I have to do for a clean uninstall of 8;2 and 8.11.11 and a clean reinstall of both ? How do I "extract msi installer" ?
Even when I say to the installer to install somewhere else 8.1.11, when I install 8.2 after, saying the installer to install elsewhere, the 8.1.11 folder is deleted...I never saw programs that act like that..


I can't help you with deinstalling any version of Max.

When that gets nuts once, deinstaller can't find uninstall files etc,

only deep registry cleanup etc can fix that.

I have no time to teach Windows System Management, sorry.

Extracting msi installer means that files that would get installed will only get extracted somewhere,

Screenshot of such extracted max installation.

Screen shot 2021-10-15 at 12.44.54 PM.png

One renames Max 8 folder to eg Max-8111 and move 

 that can be found in root, System64 and Win/System64 folders

5.8 MB Installer actually installs that DLLs into system.

I can't help you with deinstalling any version of Max.
When that gets nuts once, deinstaller can't find uninstall files etc,
only deep registry cleanup etc can fix that.
I have no time to teach Windows System Management, sorry.
Extracting msi installer means that files that would get installed will only get extracted somewhere,
without windows taking notice of it.

Google msiexec  to read the instructions.

this is an example :
msiexec /a PathToMSIFile /qb TARGETDIR=FolderToExtractTo
run that from elevated command prompt 
Screenshot of such extracted max installation.

One renames Max 8 folder to eg Max-8111 and move 
ALL AND ONLY DLLs that can be found in root, System64 and Win/System64 folders
directly to Max Folder.
5.8 MB Installer actually installs that DLLs into system.
You don't need to install that.


but it was strange that with 8.1.11/8/2 installed on the same machine, here, only 8.2 is listed in the "uninstall program list" in the window setting. So for 8.1.11 I just deleted the folders and run ccleaner, I don't know if it's enough...anyway

msiexec /a C:\Users\schlam\Downloads\Max8111_x64_210413 /qb TARGETDIR=C:\Users\schlam\Downloads\8111install

error : "impossible to open this installation package..."

I didn't ask window teaching .... =)
but it was strange that with 8.1.11/8/2 installed on the same machine, here, only 8.2 is listed in the "uninstall program list" in the window setting. So for 8.1.11 I just deleted the folders and run ccleaner, I don't know if it's enough...anyway

 error : "impossible to open this installation package..."

deleting everything / CCleaner / reinstall

solved..I don't know how :/
deleting everything / CCleaner / reinstall


error is due to missing installer extension 

I don't know why windows hides extensions for

and why people keep that settings unchanged.

error is due to missing installer extension   .msi

msiexec /a C:\Users\schlam\Downloads\Max8111_x64_210413.msi

I don't know why windows hides extensions for "known" file types by default,
and why people keep that settings unchanged.


2 are installed in the same computer and you go in setting "install or desinstall programs" (don't know the name in english) only 8.2 is listed..

 Here, with windows 10, if 8.1.11 and 8.2 are installed in the same computer and you go in setting "install or desinstall programs" (don't know the name in english) only 8.2 is listed..


8.1 and 8.2 on windows 10 machine?