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melt

Another newbie question. I appreciate the support. 

Based a suggestion from Graham W., I am trying to apply his delay-line approach to overdubbing at rates > 1 in a varispeed looper I am building. I am adopting this approach from the looper example in Jeff K's/Gregory T's tutorials seen here: 

https://technophony.com/building-live-loopers-in-max/chapter-4-varispeed-overdubbing-looper-gen/

I have to say that the conceptual jump from the previous patch to this patch is quite a challenge for me. 

In any case, my question is regarding the operation to "fill in skipped samples" when overdubbing at sample counter rates > 1. Graham's example is the following:

for (i=0; i<min(32, abs(t)); i+=1) {
	// get the corresponding sound from our past input:
	s = indelay.read((abs(t)-i)/aspd);
	// write it to tape at the writer position
	// using crossfading with existing data
	poke(tape, s*xb, wb, 0, xa, boundmode="wrap");
	// move the writer on one sample in the desired direction
	wb += sign(t);	
}

 = how many samples are skipped, i.e., how many samples we need to fill in (if I am interpreting the other code correctly), and

Thanks in advance for helping me wrap my head around this stuff!

Hi all, 

Another newbie question. I appreciate the support. 

Based a suggestion from Graham W., I am trying to apply his delay-line...

varispeed-overdubbing-in-looper-delay-line-approach-to-rate-greater-1

Varispeed Overdubbing in Looper - Delay-line approach to rate > 1

david reason

I've been a long-time Reaktor user, and its Core level has integer types that support bitwise operators. This is especially important for things like ByteBeat. However, I've noticed that Max Gen lacks these bitwise operators. Why is that?

I've been a long-time Reaktor user, and its Core level has integer types that support bitwise operators. This is especially important for...

max-gen-bit-operator

Max Gen bitwise operator

axers fall

But that's just one of the tricks.

anyway, More Max/MSP ambient sound design videos : https://www.youtube.com/@axersfall369

[Video]


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This is enough to set you apart from other ambient producers

FYI, I am running Max v9.0.8 on Win10. (EDIT: just updated to v9.1.4 -- same behavior)

I have been building a looper patch as a personal project to learn gen and genexpr. I have been chasing down the source of some clicks I've been noticing, particularly at the loop point. My investigations have led me here:

I created the most basic of looping patches in order to test splat's behavior.

A counter continuously runs, feeding the sample index of both the splat (writing, when rec>0) and wave (reading, always). When rec=1 it fades in the audio input (in2) to the input of splat.

When I use splat there is a click at the loop point after I record in audio that crosses said point. When I put poke in its place, there is no click. It seems unrelated to overdub modes, all of which I tried. Same behavior: splat clicks on the loop point, poke doesn't. 

I recorded two very similar loops (same program material) - one with poke and one with splat - exported the buffer contents and am analyzing them in Reaper. I don't know how accurate Reaper is for sample-level analysis, but this is what I see. 

You can see there is a discrepancy. It looks like splat's write pass is offset by a sample. It begins writing at sample 1 and ends at sample N (where N is the loop length, in this case 240000 samples). Poke is writing at sample 0 and ending at sample N-1, as expected.  

I would have expected splat's interpolation to deal with this, but it does make sense that this would create a click as there is a discontinuity between the loop end and loop start, which is not present with the poke version.

Is this a bug with splat? Or is it something else inherent to splat? Admittedly I 

 to use splat for its interpolation, so using poke is not a valid alternative.

I think the documentation for splat is incorrect. Specifically the "overdubmode" attribute.

This would imply that when not specifying the overdubmode attribute, it would default to "accum." However this is not the case. It seems to default to "mix."

Hi, 

FYI, I am running Max v9.0.8 on Win10. (EDIT: just updated to v9.1.4 -- same behavior)

Issue 1

I have been building a looper patch...

splat-couple-of-bugs

Splat - couple of bugs?

I’m trying to replicate exactly reson~ object in gen~ but it’s beyond my gen (and filter designing) capabilities.

I’m trying to modify the cycling code (help->examples->gen->gen.filters) to add the gain parameter and to have a wider Q (the reson~ objects allows numbers larger than 100, which is the "sonic" limit in the gen~ version) but no luck until now.

twopi_over_sr = twopi/samplerate;    

Hi, 
I’m trying to replicate exactly reson~ object in gen~ but it’s beyond my gen (and filter designing) capabilities.
I’m trying to modify 

replicating-reson~-in-gen~-with-wider-q-and-gain

Replicating reson~ in gen~ with wider Q and gain [solved]

I want no one to notice this clever magic trick: during these eight minutes, when exactly did I swap the black ball for the white one?

I want no one to notice this clever magic trick: during these eight minutes, when exactly did I swap the black ball for the white...

drifting-periodic-granular-ambient-system-with-recursion-modulations

Drifting periodic granular ambient system with recursion modulations

. However, when I try to recreate this using built-in 

, I just can't seem to get it right. Could anyone help me figure this out?

[Image: fede7d1e-8c5f-4cb3-aed5-a05c877d6917.png ]
I've written an AD Envelope in CodeBox, which essentially functions as a...

how-do-i-use-gen-objects-to-implement-the-features-in-codebox

How do I use Gen Objects to implement the features in CodeBox?

I am slowly trying to work my way through learning some GenExpr in order to build a looper. So far it's been going well, however, I've hit a wall in trying to achieve something I thought would be rather simple. 

What I want to do is a "lazy" erase of a buffer, where the erase action start point (in the buffer) is variable, and that the erase loops around the end of the buffer, finishing at the start point (thus clearing the entire thing). 

I've been trying to adapt this algorithm from Graham W.:

Data loopdata(768000);
History erase;
if (erase < dim(loopdata)) {
    end = erase + 32;
    while (erase < end) {
        poke(loopdata, 0, erase);
        erase += 1;
    }
}
out1 = erase < dim(loopdata);

But I'm having a hard time creating the conditions to  make this work when I attempt to wrap the values around the end of the buffer with a modulo operator. 

For example, I can't depend on "erase < end" because at the wrap point, end will be less than erase. Attempting this with different conditions, such as "erase != end-1" thinking it would achieve the same thing as "<" given we're always accumulating in the positive direction, and we always set "end" to a higher value than erase. However, I continue to have issues with the while loop never ending.

I am having better luck using a for loop for this, and defining the size of the erase chunk with the for loop condition. This means I don't need to worry about wrapping "end" and only wrapping "erase"

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