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johyde

I've built a Max for Live plugin where the only thing I automate in Live is the preset number for a [pattrstorage] object. I'd rather be able to automate individual parameters also, but the two seem to cause too many conflicts, so I've settled on the preset-only approach, which is mostly working OK for me - essentially I just step through a bunch of presets over the course of my track.

I do have one issue though. It won't successfully recall the first preset I'm using. So I have an automation line that more-or-less just starts with preset 1 and then steps through sequentially 2,3,4 etc. However, it won't recall preset 1, despite an explicit automation point to do so. The only way I can get it to recall preset 1 is to have my automation briefly skip to another preset and back to 1, then it works correctly. It's kind of OK as a workaround, but not ideal.

Anyone know how I might sort this out? It occurs to me that it might be because I've set @parameter_enable 1 and @paraminitmode 1, as per the pattrstorage helpfile, which as I understand it embeds the presets in the device so they don't need to be saved manually (which in itself works fine and is definitely useful). I wonder if this is causing some sort of conflict?

The other thing to mention in case relevant is that I'm using a [preset] object to connect to the [pattrstorage] object, just as a front end within the plugin for saving and recalling presets. I wonder if this can cause any such issues - I also note that I have 'Save Preset in Patcher' enabled on this and wonder if this could also cause a conflict. Finally, I wonder if I'd get better results sending the automated preset number to the [preset] object rather than [pattrstorage].

Hi.

I've built a Max for Live plugin where the only thing I automate in Live is the preset number for a [pattrstorage] object. I'd rather...

automation-of-pattrstorate-vs-parameter-mode-paraminitmode

Automation of pattrstorate vs Parameter mode/ paraminitmode?

outsider

hello folks! i'm working on an m4l MIDI device that uses plugphasor~ and rate~ (in "lock" sync mode) to derive what 

 be sample-accurate timing over the course of an arbitrary number of bars (4, 8, 16, etc).

however, using rate~ in combination with plugphasor~ to create a master phasor of a length longer than 1 beat introduces a problem where rate~ wants to pick up from where it left off when transport stops and starts again.

i've tried using the "transport active" flag from plugsync~ to tell rate~ to reset, but this still causes erratic behaviour where rate~ sometimes begins a new cycle on the second beat (shown in blue), or resets to a different point in its cycle (shown in red). i assume this is because plugsync~ is outputting data at event rate (?) while plugphasor~ is synchronised at audio rate...

hello folks! i'm working on an m4l MIDI device that uses plugphasor~ and rate~ (in "lock" sync mode) to derive what should be...

synchronising-rate-with-plugphasor

Synchronising rate~ with plugphasor~

Ro Rou

I came across a Max for Live device "M4L Real-Time Texture 2.0" released about 12-13 years ago and published here on Cycling74. M4l Real-Time Texture is a device that uses input to create sonic textures. I think it was made by Roberto Attanasio. Unfortunately, the project website (

https://cycling74.com/projects/m4l-real-time-texture-2-0

) is no longer accessible. Blog and forum posts are dead too. There are two Facebook teasers and Vimeo videos (63391456 and 316582128) which show the device in action.

It has a really nice reverb tale and I would love to play with it. Just wondering if anyone knows where to still purchase it or holds a copy of it for share.

m4l-real-time-texture-20

M4L Real-Time Texture 2.0

Jose Bedoya

Hello everyone, I hope you are very well. I have the following problem, I hope you can help me to solve it:

I am creating a M4L device, which, a part of its user interface is created using HTML and displayed with the jweb component. This component reads a local .html file in which is the code of the interface.

However, when I export the project as M4L device and transfer the .amxd file to another pc to open it with ableton, the jweb component fails to find the .html file. But when, from ableton, I open the patch editor and unfreeze it, max writes the .html file and finally, the jweb component manages to find it and display the created interface.

Is there any way that, automatically, when the end user loads the device to Ableton, it writes to the .html file, so that he doesn't have to do the whole process of unfreezing and reloading the device after that?

I am also getting other suggestions on how I could display user interface created in HTML.

Hello everyone, I hope you are very well. I have the following problem, I hope you can help me to solve it:

I am creating a M4L device,...

export-m4l-device-with-html-gui

Export M4L device with html GUI? 

rubén

Hi! does anyone knows if the clipinfo can be accessed from max? can you extract it from a clip in ableton? i can't see this possibility in the LOM, and was wondering if there is another way...

Hi! does anyone knows if the clipinfo can be accessed from max? can you extract it from a clip in ableton? i can't see this possibility in t

get-clip-info-in-ableton-live

Get clip info in ableton live

Alex Walsh

I'm a gear head and quite new to M4L. I have been building a hardware latency calculator to help measure my synths latency. This would primarily be used for determining the 'Hardware Latency' time to be applied to an 'External Instrument' device. 

I've tried two main methods of doing this

1. Measuring the time it takes from [Note Out] until I hear the audio back in my [plugin~] - with this method it compensates for the Sample Rate, Buffer Size and Project Latency. The issues arose with the project latency which (correct me if Im wrong) is not an available readable value from ableton, so I was trying my best to calculate it on its own (Scanning all the plugins in a project, adding up all the latency etc). This took awhile as there were always new places a plugin could be (i.e. Groups within Groups or Drum Rack Return Tracks). Yet after all this work, though accurate 90% of the time, in some big projects, it was still miscalculating somewhere along the way.

2.  I'd try to bypass all this compensation by sending a click & and [noteout] at the same time. I'd route the click internally (yet still have project latency) and then I'd just measure the difference in time for the click audio to come back in and the audio from the synth. This method seemed to introduce more latency to the click. 

I can go into more detail but I'm curious if anyone has tried to tackle anything similar to this and has any suggestions on how to approach it? Am I on the right track or am I missing something that would make this whole process easier?

I'm a gear head and quite new to M4L. I have been building a hardware latency calculator to help measure my synths latency. This would...

latency-measurement-within-m4l

Latency Measurement within M4L

Emma Ainsley

I'd like to be able to get a score into Max/Max for Live and have the computer play it replacing scored pitches with random pitches. I've been exploring Bach but I'm struggling to see how this could be acheived. Would this even be possible and if so, is there an existing tool that would do the job or would I need to build it from scratch?

Hi

I'd like to be able to get a score into Max/Max for Live and have the computer play it replacing scored pitches with random pitches....

playback-of-a-score-replacing-scored-pitches-with-random-pitches

Playback of a score replacing scored pitches with random pitches

Ruben R

A brief introduction to what I am trying to build: I am writing a Max Audio Effect that reads incoming audio into a buffer~ (eventually for processing/manipulation), where a 'time' knob sets the rate at which a new audio buffer is acquired. A phasor~ object serves as the main engine of the patch, where every wave represents a new sample being recorded/played. Changing the time knob will update the sample period once the wave has finished and the old buffer has been played completely. Furthermore, I made a Freeze/Record mechanism: Record mode is the mode I just described; in Freeze mode, no new audio will be recorded into the audio buffer, and the current buffer will be looped.

The audio is being recorded using two poke~ objects (one for left outlet of plugin~, one for right outlet of plugin~), and is being played using two index~ objects (one for left inlet of plugout~, one fot right inlet of plugout~). The buffer~ has been set to have two channels. The I/O mappings seem to have been set-up correctly for stereo sound.

However, when I use the audio effect, the incoming stereo sound becomes mono. When I pan completely left (using Utility device) no sound can be heard, and when I pan completely right, the sound comes through both ears. This is only the case when the patch is closed. When I open up the patch (using the edit button) and leave the effect turned on, the sound is perfectly stereo and panning left and right shows expected behaviour.

Does anyone have an idea how this may be caused? When I connect a noise~ object to the left inlet of plugout, and a cycle~ object to the right inlet of plugout~, I can hear the stereo sound working perfectly fine. (Note: I am using Max 8)

A brief introduction to what I am trying to build: I am writing a Max Audio Effect that reads incoming audio into a buffer~ (eventually for...

sound-is-stereo-when-patch-opened-but-mono-when-closed

Sound is stereo when patch opened, but mono when closed

eli7vh

I looked in the "getinfo", but couldn't find a way to select all the sub tracks in a group.. so this is my solution.. it seems wild.

My goal is to select all the sister devices of this plugin , and perform an action (a macro) 

I welcome any alternate approaches, still only a couple weeks into learning. 

I looked in the "getinfo", but couldn't find a way to select all the sub tracks in a group.. so this is my solution.. it seems wild.

My...

select-all-tracks-belonging-to-a-group

Select All Tracks belonging to a group

Diemo Schwarz

I'm looking for tips and experiences how best to go about controlling specific M4L devices from TouchOSC. This is based on stuff working in Max that I want to port to Live.  I'm not so familiar yet with the LOM and so on, and am happy about all general pointers, too.

My starting point is (left part of the diagram below):

What I'd like to achieve (might look like the right part of the diagram, but maybe there are better ways):

I'm looking for tips and experiences how best to go about controlling specific M4L devices from TouchOSC. This is based on stuff working in...

Max For Live Forum