brendan mccloskey

While I head off and do my own quick research - of which this forum is one major part - what is the formula for splitting the Hz octave (e.g. 220Hz - 440Hz) into mean/well tuned tones and semitones?

Context: in my granulator I have a pitch factor slider (-4 <--> +4), which slides across pitch. I'd like to have it step across pitch as a diatonic pitch shifter, by tones and semitones; I'd like to try the major scale first, or maybe any tonal steptwise pitch set that splits the octave. I

(ps, mid research: can is open , worms are everywhere)

Hallo fellow Maxers,
While I head off and do my own quick research - of which this forum is one major part - what is the formula for splitting the Hz octave (e.g. 220Hz - 440Hz) into mean/well tuned tones and semitones?

Many thanks
Brendan
(ps, mid research: can is open , worms are everywhere)


Hallo fellow Maxers,
While I head off and do my own quick research - of which this forum is one major part - what is the formula for splitti

convert-hz-ratios-to-diatonic-ratios

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i would just shift the input range so that the lower limit in Hz becomes 60 ... ftom ... scale to whatever you need.

for other than chromatic i would convert chromatic to myscale as a last step (because i already have that ready) (but i am afraid you would prefer to have your controller reflecting the distances already, right?)

& use float for your slider, especially for the conversion to diatonic.

& use float  for your slider, especially for the conversion to diatonic.

I had thought about using [ftom], but how I would implement it is unclear to me. I am using the pitch factor slider to affect the pitch of 'live' audio input, where a value of 1 = no pitch shift, 0.5 = octave down and 2 = octave up. I should have clarified that I'm not really seeking Hz to semitones conversion, it's Hz ratios to semitones that I'm after.

to convert semitone steps into a pitch scalar, I use the following formula:

[expr pow(2, $f1/12), where $f1 is a +/- integer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKg2ZzPKl2M

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i love solving such puzzles (and i usually have all requried parts alredady) but i still dont fully understand the original application. :)

so we start with GUI slider from -4 to 4, which represents octaves, right?

whats next? what other variables and constants are mandatory and how should the output look like? why do Hz matter at all - cant most be done linear? 

 i love solving such puzzles (and i usually have all requried parts alredady) but i still dont fully understand the original application. :)

so we start with  GUI slider from -4 to 4, which represents octaves, right?
whats next? what other variables and constants are mandatory and how should the output look like?  why do Hz matter at all - cant most be done linear? 





Are you trying to reproduce different historical temperaments or microtonal and just intonation ratios? Either way, if I understood it well, I think the most flexible way is to be able to import tuning description files.

Maybe you're looking for something like this?

http://sevish.com/2014/how-to-play-microtonal-scales-on-a-maxmsp-synth/

Are you trying to reproduce different historical temperaments or microtonal and just intonation ratios? Either way, if I understood it well, I think the most flexible way is to be able to import tuning description files.
Maybe you're looking for something like this?
http://sevish.com/2014/how-to-play-microtonal-scales-on-a-maxmsp-synth/

the pitch ratio slider was used to multiply the pitch of a granular time/pitch stretcher, so that 1 = no shift, 0.5 = -1 octave, 2 = +1 octave. Using floating point values we get a glissando effect when moving the pitch scalar (it was a little counterintuitive anyway: starting in the middle and lowering the pitch scalar from 1 towards zero causes a pitch drop, then continuing into negative values gradually raises the pitch but with 'reversed' grains).

In order to make it a little more 'musical' I decided to use semitone increments instead of glissando (and I added a 'reverse grain direction' toggle), so now my slider goes from -3 to +3 octaves, which to me is a little more intuitive. Sorry for not being clearer, and I probably muddied the water by asking for a specific formula as [expr pow(2, $f1/12)] does exactly what I want: semitones input = pitch ratio output.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyPHeqjXSH0

Hi Roman and Felipe,
the pitch ratio slider was used to multiply the pitch of a granular time/pitch stretcher, so that 1 = no shift, 0.5 = -1 octave, 2 = +1 octave. Using floating point values we get a glissando effect when moving the pitch scalar (it was a little counterintuitive anyway: starting in the middle and lowering the pitch scalar from 1 towards zero causes a pitch drop, then continuing into negative values gradually raises the pitch but with 'reversed' grains).

In order to make it a little more 'musical' I decided to use semitone increments instead of glissando (and I added a 'reverse grain direction' toggle), so now my slider goes from -3 to +3 octaves, which to me is a little more intuitive. Sorry for not being clearer, and I probably muddied the water by asking for a specific formula as [expr pow(2, $f1/12)] does exactly what I want: semitones input = pitch ratio output.

Thanks gents
(
short demo here, if you like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyPHeqjXSH0
)


Just to clarify: I am multiplying the grain frequency by a pitch scalar, shrinking or growing the grain causes a shift in pitch: 1000/(grainDur*pitchScalar) = Hz)

so that 1 = no shift, 0.5 = -1 octave, 2 = +1 octave ... you can probably avoid this ratio stuff when there is an mtof later. but as long as it works...

 so that 1 = no shift, 0.5 = -1 octave, 2 = +1 octave ... you can probably avoid  this ratio stuff when there is an mtof later. but as long as it works...

I'll probably just use a [coll] for a variety of pitch collections ;)

@Felipe,
I'll probably just use a [coll] for a variety of pitch collections ;)

Convert Hz ratios to diatonic ratios [solved]