Current options for DBAP

Augustine Bannatyne - Leudar's icon

I have asked this before and am just wondering if there's any new developments. I am looking for DBAP externals/solutions that include height. I am aware of Jamoma though Im not sure if this is capable of mapping elevation as well. I basically would want to to be able to map irregular speaker locations, from straight lines of speakers , to very irregular arrays with speaker sin odd locations covering large areas, and pan between these speakers using amplitude panning. At the moment I do this with ICSTs ambisonic equivalent panners but , it works, but they are basically designed for peripheral speaker arrays so am looking to change . Any suggestions aprt from Jamoma ? Anyone use A-objects or MIAP for this ?

Francois Weber's icon

Hi Augustine,
You can use [j.dbap] from the jamoma package (Jamoma v1.0.1 | build 79a47f8).
Works well for me, with elevetion too (Max 8.0.5 - Mac OS 10.14.4).
François

Augustine Bannatyne - Leudar's icon

Great tx Francois Ive been looking to try Jamoma for a while. Im assuming you can change trajectories in realtime and automate them too .

Augustine Bannatyne - Leudar's icon

Although François when I try and install Jamoma it says not supported by 64 bit windowsin package manager and if i try and download from giyhub it wont load the externals giving error 126.

Francois Weber's icon

http://jamoma.org/download/

Augustine Bannatyne - Leudar's icon

Hi François yes Ive been there. Their 64 bit windows stuff doesnt really work apparently :

http://www.jamoma.org/forums/developers/?place=msg%2Fjamoma-dev%2FYSwUuGWiJZ4%2F4h43938PBAAJ

Max 32bit Jamoma doesnt seem to work on a 64 bit windows system either - package manager wont install it on a 64 bit windows system either. Looks like this was mainly developed for mac. Which basically leaves SPAT... expensive.....

Augustine Bannatyne - Leudar's icon

Although according to this page spat for max is free ?

http://forumnet.ircam.fr/shop/en/forumnet/49-spat.html

tcarpent's icon

Spat is sort of free... Read more :

https://beta.forum.ircam.fr/article/detail/quoi_de_neuf/
http://forumnet.ircam.fr/ircam-forum-license/?lang=en

For your use case, I'd recommend the "KNN" panning (in spat dialect) which can be seen as a generalization of DBAP. Works for arbitrary speaker layouts.

Augustine Bannatyne - Leudar's icon

yeah I was looking at that, nearest neighbour etc . Theres a few "exotic" panning methods there Im looking forward to exploring.