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spin lud

I am not sure if this is possible but I was wondering if Ableton can send data to Max standalone with some message protocol (touchosc?), without using M4L.

The reason why I am asking this is because I would like to integrate some Jitter visualization insides my Live set and it is common opinion that M4L is quite unstable with Jitter. So could be a viable approach to keep them separated and sending control messages from Ableton to Max (like midi/automations to control some parameters on the Max patch)? For sending audio I guess is more complicated then sending midi messages?

I am talking about having Ableton and Max running and communicating (Ableton -> Max, no need for the other way around) on the same machine, without using M4L.

Hi guys,

I am not sure if this is possible but I was wondering if Ableton can send data to Max standalone with some message protocol...

sending-control-messagesaudio-from-ableton-to-max-standalone-instead-of-using-m4l

Sending control messages/audio from Ableton to Max standalone instead of using M4L

Karel

Hi, I'm looking for a specific way to put data from an itable or multislider into a buffer.

This data should be put into a audio-rate-resolution buffer (with peek~ or poke~ ?), 

but the data has to be interpolated across the new resolution and preferably the interpolation function is variable. 

So possibly, lots of interpolated values are generated based on just a few input values.

So the point is to create a custom buffer, using XY-pad input that has a variable amount of X-values.

Hi, I'm looking for a specific way to put data from an itable or multislider into a buffer.

The list from itable could look like 
0 0.0173...

variable-length-index-list-into-buffer-w-peek-poke-with-interpolation

Variable-length index list into buffer (w peek~ /poke~) with interpolation ?

berane9

How to pick the 7 peak (more repeated) numbers among a group of hertz value. 

how-to-pick-the-7-peak-more-repeated-numbers-among-a-group-of-hertz-value

Thomas Saunter

So I've started experimenting in maxmsp and I'm trying to create something,

I've got a 2D ripple that works but I want to create 4 "nodes" that would bang and output velocity corresponding with the ripples intensity. AND if possible interact with the ripple but that's extra.

Is this possible and can anyone point me in the right direction?

So I've started experimenting in maxmsp and I'm trying to create something,

I've started with this tutorial: 

I've got a 2D ripple that...

help-creating-a-ripple-with-nodes-that-bang-and-reflect

Help creating a ripple with nodes that bang and reflect

Baek Santarek

I am not sure if this is possible but I really want to give it a chance as this is my long-time dream and I finally feel ready to attempt this.

I want to record 4 hours (I have chosen this amount as a potential maximum based on my experience) of sample accurate automation data with values being written at audio rate (user input automation, LFOs, envelopes, everything...).

Basically, I want to be able to capture any movement of any parameter in my patch with absolute precision so that when played back the results would be truly identical to what I heard at that point in time when recording it. I want totally deterministic results like one can get from audio files but editable. That means I want to be able to skip to a certain point in time and have the automation and modulation values (the precise shape and phase of an LFO at that point in time, for example) adjust accordingly.

There could be hundreds of parameters to be recorded, sometimes even at once.

What would be the best approach to handle this? Is this even possible in Max Msp if we assume the performance of my computer is not a limitation?

I imagine I would need to do some serious performance and data filtering/compression work for this but I have zero experience with this problem and would love to avoid getting stuck and waste my time attempting to develop something that would be pointless in the end.

I have experience with recording CV signals in wav files in a DAW and the results are great. However I need to be able to redraw the recorded signals in real-time and I also want the optimize the performance for large amounts of automation tracks and make sure the whole system is truly deterministic (unlike in all the DAWs I have tested so far where there is always something changing the resulting sound when compared to the intended original) so that is why I am looking to do this in Max Msp.

Please, give me your ideas to get me started.

Hi guys,

I am not sure if this is possible but I really want to give it a chance as this is my long-time dream and I finally feel ready to...

recording-hours-of-sample-accurate-automation-data

Recording hours of sample accurate automation data

Awesome Boy Yes

I'm making a Max For Live patch that records audio, independently of Live (sfrecord~), and saves it to a location. I've got it working with an [opendialog] but it'd be great if the user didn't have to specify where to save it every time the patch is loaded. E.g., within Ableton's User Library folder.

I'm making a Max For Live patch that records audio, independently of Live (sfrecord~), and saves it to a location. I've got it working with 

automatically-create-folder-for-save-location

If it's for your own use, just manually create that folder
and use absolute path to it to write files.
If you want that to work on other machines, than
use shell or something similar like jasch's createfolder external to auto create that folder.
I am not using Live, but I guess that it dictates where that user library is, or ?
You can use sprintf or combine to make full path out of
that folder's path and audio file name.
Mind you -  sfrecord~ will overwrite any file without warning
when it receives message open with the path appended.
If that is issue, than you could first check if file allready exists
or not.


It would be for use on other peoples' machines, yes. I'm taking a look at shell currently, but I'm also stuck trying to include an external as part of a patch for other users (I submitted a topic precisely about this earlier). I thought maybe there was a way to do this using Max 'vanilla'.

I'll check out Jasch's createfolder too, see if it'll do what I'd like.

Yeah I've got the location of the User Library now.  (Users/(user)/Music/Ableton/User Library) for those who might need it.

I've got the filename time-stamping so the filename for sfrecord~ will always be different (ie not overwite) if that's what you mean?

You can short user path on mac using
~/Music/Ableton/User Library

Shell needs slash based path, same output would also work for
createfolder external.


There should be no problem to include externals into
max4live device, I think you should find a tutorial how to do that,
but what might become a problem is Mac OS restrictions,
see the posts about shell and gatekeeper on Catalina.

And timestamp is a good approach for the files.
Maybe One could use project - track name + timestamp,
that can be done using Live Object I think.

And mkdir is the message for the shell, 
mkdir + path


This is perfect. Thanks so much for your help. I'll look into saving externals in a Max For Live device too.

Hello, I am looking for the same thing but on windows...

shell can execude cmd so why not have a read on all possible
commands available, including making of directories ?
https://ss64.com/nt/index.html
and then
https://ss64.com/nt/md.html
One has to take care about proper fromating of messages to shell,
because max is max and has it's own head about symbols 

or use createfolder external  from Jasch package.


It already have [createfolder] but it seems to be only for Mac...
..and I really don't know shell...:/
, I will investigate this way...

....it's me or creating a simple folder in windows is not so basic ?

Thank you !


createfolder.mxe   createfolder.mxe64 are windows externals


the jasch were already installed

..but the help file says me that it was working for "Max OS X Only"...
..maybe an old helpfile or old version conflict.
I have to clean my computer =)


yes you are right - windows version was included only in very last release.

Automatically Create Folder For Save Location

My request is simple: I want to be able to set custom blend modes to an arbitrary number of jit.gl.videoplanes with possibly changing rendering order.

The built-in blend modes (add/multiply/screen/exclusion/colorblend/alphablend/coloradd/alphaadd) are fine, but I would like to use my own formulae, like the ones available in co.***.jxs slabs, or others.

I use videoplanes mainly for their ability to be rotated, scaled, positioned, and changing their rendering order on-the-fly with @layer.

I know I could just use textures instead of videoplanes, pass them through a [jit.gl.slab @file td.rota.jxs] for the rotation/scale/position, but then comes the rendering order with an arbitrary number of textures. Say I have N textures. I would need to create N-1 [jit.gl.slab @inputs 2] in cascade, route each texture to a given slab depending on the desired rendering order, and load in each slab the desired custom blend mode for a given texture. But this become quickly becomes a scripting headache when we want to remove/add textures and change their rendering order.

Another interesting approach is the one described in 

, which basically implements the custom blending in a jit.gl.shader applied on any object we want to apply our custom blending on. Then we make use of a [jit.gl.node @capture 1] to capture the scene and feed the blending shader with what's already been rendered, and we use the 

 message out of the node to trigger the rendering in the desired order. The caveat is that instead of relying on the @layer attribute for the rendering order, we need to change the order in which bangs are sent, which seems more manageable than a cascade of slabs.

The problem with this last method is that I just cannot make it work. I made my custom shader starting from the jit.gl.videoplane default shader, adding to it a secondary texture input and implementing a very simple blending for the sake of the example. As you can see in the screenshot below, I get weird square glitches as soon as a videoplane isn't at position 0 0 0, and each videoplane seem "doubled" on the other one as if it was ignoring position.

Am I overthinking it, or is it just utterly tricky to achieve what I want?

Hey,

My request is simple: I want to be able to set custom blend modes to an arbitrary number of jit.gl.videoplanes with possibly changing...

custom-videoplane-blend-modes

Custom videoplane blend modes

benj3737

I have a max patch that navigates a folder structure to find and load files. I do it dynamically with the 'folder' object, but it's a little slower and less consistent than I'd like.

I had the idea of scanning the directory (and subdirectories) at patcher load into a nested dictionary and querying that instead.

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