Florent Ghys

Hello, since I've updated Max to 8.6.x and Ableton Live 12.x, the object curve~ doesn't seem to behave appropriately when inside a poly~, and inside a Max For Live device.

The following patch works fine with Max 8.3.x and Ableton Live 11, but it not with the updates:

It seems like triggering [mute 1, 0] to thispoly~ followed immediately (t b b) by an envelope message to curve~ causes the latter to bang to its right outlet immediately, thus turning off the instance too soon. 

Any help/suggestions would be immensely appreciated! 

Hello, since I've updated Max to 8.6.x and Ableton Live 12.x, the object curve~ doesn't seem to behave appropriately when inside a poly~,...

curve-doesnt-work-inside-poly-anymore-m4l

I posted a video on the fb group, in case that helps understanding the problem: 

https://www.facebook.com/1412708929/videos/1358273014790599/

The instance #4 on the left illustrates the problem, while the instance #5 on the right works fine. 

thanks Roman, I just did and I am getting the same problem with line~

The issue stems from the interruption of an envelope message by another message before the first envelope completes. In the example provided, sending a "note off" message before the envelope triggered by a "note on" message concludes results in unexpected behavior from both curve~ and line~: they fail to trigger their right output (bang) appropriately within poly~ (inside M4L).

Not sure if this is a known bug or a deliberate behavior change, but I'm raising it here for consideration. Definitely a change from Max 8.3.

I've found a workaround by decoupling the "note on" and "note off" messages using two separate curve~ objects.

why don't you hold the note-off in a [zl.reg, right inlet] and have [curve~] fire it from its right outlet?

thanks for the suggestion! unfortunately that wouldn't work as I need to be able to turn off instances and interrupt the initial envelope dynamically 

OK I think I got it: sending a message to curve~ while an instance is off causes curve~ to bang its right outlet next time the instance is turned on, thus all sorts of problems in my patches. 

Getting the mute flag from thispoly~ and making sure no messages are sent to curve~ when an instance is off solved my problem. 

curve~ doesn't work inside poly~ anymore? (M4L)