Darwin Grosse's 20 Objects

James Huckenpahler's icon

HIVE MIND:

I ran into a situation where I needed a quick refresher and hopped over to the 20 Objects tutorial only to discover... BLANK.

http://20objects.com/ is still live, but it points to the actual tutorials on https://darwingrosse.com/ which appears to be no more...

Aside from the immediate value to a Max beginner, it was also an outstanding example of pedagogy. Sooooo...

  1. Am I just braindead and it can be found somewhere else? If 'yes,' can some kind soul share a link? If 'no,' then...

  2. I'd like to recreate and update it. I didn't know Darwin, but I think doing this doesn't violate his spirit or intent - that said I'm hoping there are folks here who did know him and can advise me...

  3. And if I can get a blessing, I'd need a little help:

  4. Most of the material is on Wayback Machine, BUT: many images are missing. In many cases the only adjacent text is, "start with this patch..." I'd need advice reconstructing.

  5. Some of the links to external sources are long gone - advice needed for suitable substitutes, if any.

  6. Might benefit from some slight editorial tweaking for best practices in Max 9?

  7. I'd like to set this up as .MD files in a GitHub repo; I don't see any licensing info on the Wayback Machine archive - wondering what license type [if any] would best align with Darwin's intent?

20 Objects is too good to fade out, and I think still relevant to beginners...

thx, James H

Roman Thilenius's icon
James Huckenpahler's icon

Thanks Roman - yes, pulled all that stuff - but missing the conclusion page and many images...

Roman Thilenius's icon

ah i didnt see that you already mentioned wbm.
with these sites where every gone url resolves to "domain.com/landing" the wmb contextualmenu "does not work", recently this became a problem.

David Schaal's icon

I use Darwin's 20 Objects in my Interactive Sound course at CU Boulder and I made an archive last September 2024 w/ the knowledge that domains and web hosting are not forever. I learned a lot from Darwin at his workshops for our CMKY electronic art festival (2008-2015), and I am reminded by his teachings to bring joy to my work. Zipped archive too big @6.8mb to attach here so posting on my google drive to share.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1buaXdBgh7y2GlB32HGMJAdN6nInl8fMO/view?usp=sharing

James Huckenpahler's icon

thanks so much David - I also found Alex Mesker's archive here: https://max-tricks.com/20-Objects/0.-Introduction. I'm slowly recreating as markdown in GitHub here: https://github.com/supertwist/20objects?tab=readme-ov-file and attempting to update to Max 9 as I go. - J