Disable Parameter Mode Enable won't work after patch restart

andrej's icon

Hi, I have a big patch, recently I wanted to implement the patcher snapshot to it and I have found out that I have lots of ui objects (numbers boxes, bangs, gains…) that I don’t wont to include to the snapshot. So I have turned off the ‘’Parameter Mode Enable’’, but anytime I restart the patch it gets automatically re enabled. I think that this is due to the patterstorage and auttopattr implementation. I know that a loadbang and the ''parameter_enable 0’’ would do the trick but I would prefer to avoid this process. I also know that ''Parameter Visibility" set to hidden would prevent the object to be included in the snapshot, but this is again not what I'm looking for because I want to have a clearer parameter window and possible better loading time of the snapshots. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!

sebastien ruiz's icon

Hello ANDREJ , have you found a trick to prevent that ? I have the same trouble, i would like a very reactive recall preset and it make me crazy. Thanks

Source Audio's icon

all that fancy pattr stuff relies on var (scripting) name of any object
in order to include it into storage.
Don't know about snapshots, I am not using that stuff and disable it on any object
that might auto enable snapshots per default, like vst~ for example.
So send message varname to object you want to exclude from presets, pattrs etc
that will brake the link to them no matter what parameter mode is set to,
because scripting name gets wiped.
and make sure autopattr is not autonaming !


sebastien ruiz's icon

Thank You, Source Audio
It seems to me that I proceed in the same way. I also tried to include everything in the same Bpatcher which solved me a little speed in the recalls of preset. And I tried different priorities in the clientwindow but it's still not responsive enough. I will continue my tests, and go back in detail or I could have made a mistake? thank you for everything

Source Audio's icon

it is not possible to tell if your pattr system has any problems or not
without any informations.
it is one thing to recall something, another one to execute it

sebastien ruiz's icon

i will tell you later if i solve it, i have reporting a bug there is in help patcher of patterstorage priority tab. Where on my mac i can't follow the step by step process. i can't change to 0 in the clientwindow priority.... and also i have rebuild an utility patch for understanding more patterstorage . Now i'm gone rebuild from the begin my patch, with a lot of print to see what i can do better. Many thanks sebastien , i send in the next comment the utility i have made

sebastien ruiz's icon

utility patterstorage

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schlam's icon

hello Sebastien,
something is missing in the patch


sebastien ruiz's icon

Oups it was my abstraction so sorry

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