drum/percussion synth patches needed for studying purpose

    Aug 19 2010 | 9:57 am
    I am slowly switching from supercollider to max/msp now. my first project is to make some beats driven and synced by LFOs not by sequencers.
    for that, I need some decent sounds and I do not fancy using samples.(except granular synthesis)
    I found out that studying other people's patch is best way to learn max/msp. so I'd like to find some drum/percussion synth or/and some granular beat mess-uppers patches from others.
    I know that there's sound on sound articles and waldorf attack manual, jomox diagram...etc. all those stuff is also well known in supercollider world.
    but what I'm looking for is to do what I did in supercollider in max/msp way. using msp objects, in order to study and get inspired.
    by consequence, it'd be nice if I can have some example patchs on this particular topic.
    as for sharing policy, I promise that the result drum synth that I'll write will be posted here of course. (if anybody fancies newbies chaotic patche..)
    I do not look for any innovative, mind blowing patches, just whatever you wrote 3 years ago and you don't use it anymore kind of things will be perfect. I can't read complex patches for now and it's not good for studying material.
    let me know.
    thank you very much.
    jae ho youn

    • Aug 19 2010 | 10:00 am
      I forgot to add,
      I am not interested in physical modeling stuff. (as sound on sound article is focused on)
      But I am more interested in digital, synthetic sounds. or some error kind of sounds.
      thank you.
    • Aug 19 2010 | 1:07 pm
      You've got two options
      [short sample]----> [effects] [constant noise]----->[effects]----->[envelope/filter]
      after that, there are no rules.
    • Aug 20 2010 | 9:03 am
      ok, so we don't share patches in max community. good to know.
    • Aug 20 2010 | 11:05 am
      Did you try searching the forum for "[sharing]" - plenty of examples of that here. Also plenty of examples of drum machines/synths, if you search. I can post an example later, but in the meantime, check the 'simple FM' patch in the examples - lots of mileage in that one, and as has been, pointed out here before, the basis of many a performance patch by luminaries such as Autechre. See also filtered noise - a nice example posted here recently called something like 'noiseul8tor' - and CNMAT's physical modelling objects (yes, I read what you said, but they do make some great percussive noises). See, we do share:) cheers Roger
    • Aug 20 2010 | 6:17 pm
      "ok, so we don't share patches in max community. good to know." it would have been smarter, being new to this community, if you had done a search for the word, 'share' or 'sharing', or just take a look through these forums for just one minute and you'd soon find that thousands of patches have been shared already and then you wouldn't look as much like a fool as you do now(but that's just my negative sense of humor right now, no worries). you also responded belligerently to "Audio_Matt" who is known around here for posting awesome patches... if you had started with your own patch, "Audio_Matt" probably would've helped you further... but hey, we all start as noobs(and some of us, like me, stay that way ;)
      anyways, since i'm a fan of supercollider and look forward to seeing smarter interaction from you, here's noisul8or, mentioned by roger, one of my favs: https://cycling74.com/forums/my-little-noise-patch
      you'll also want to take a look at the supercollider object: http://music.columbia.edu/~brad/sc3~/
      and these supercollider ugens ported to max, which i see you already have: https://cycling74.com/forums/sc-max-supercollider-library
      be patient.
    • Aug 20 2010 | 7:24 pm
      Honestly, I was being serious. If you're a synthesist than you know "electronic sounding drums" are stupid easy to produce. and when I say stupid easy, I mean there is literally no barrier to what you can shove behind and filter or an amplitude envelope.
    • Aug 20 2010 | 7:45 pm
    • Aug 20 2010 | 9:37 pm
      haha nice one,
      have some of that OP
    • Aug 20 2010 | 10:19 pm
      I was joking about computer music. I do that all the time. I'm just saying it's a freeform art. I didn't mean to be mean at original poster.
    • Aug 21 2010 | 8:19 am
      I apologize to post a nasty comment. I'm really sorry. I DID search before posting but probably it was wrong way and it wasn't enough. (How could I imagine [sharing] tag exist!)
      And I am agree with AudioMatt and I was wrong to imagine there will be some kind of magic objects in MSP to make super sexy perc sounds in three clicks.(it exist, well, it's called [function] but slightly more than three clicks) Now I have done some more works and lonesome researches on it all by myself, I realize that I was wrong wrong wrong. I just needed to cabling around and in and out with loads of help files opened all over 15" and stuff to see what it will be then, as I do in supercollider and in life. so, again, my bad.
      Anyway, the essential thing is that now I got what I wanted, a groovy patches from you brothers. So, moaning like wrongful MSP newbie isn't that bad at the end but I won't do anymore I promise and I'll come back with better attitude and well prepared questions.
      Thank you very much and I apologize once more for being bad bad.
      truly yours,
      Jae Ho Youn
    • Aug 21 2010 | 9:09 am
      "moaning like wrongful MSP newbie isn't that bad at the end" so true. people will respond to you with similar attitude, that's the only problem. eventually, it can all be worked out with a little patience. everyone is a newbie to something in this world. Hey, no worries. And welcome! (i was also just being an ass, my apologies)
      It's great to have you here.
    • Nov 08 2011 | 9:28 am
      ^ Jeez, they get smarter every day.