File preferences not working any longer only on my MAC Computers

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My File preferences are not working any longer only with Max 8 turning an my Mac computers.

The problem is a recent one, because this worked fine for years in parallel on both systems, with one only big library installed on a syncronized synology drive, but today no patches using some subpatchers work any more ON MY MAC.

Even Patches which are in the same folder aren't loaded and recoginzed. If I try to open help files directly in my library folder. The console declares "No such object" and the patcher turns it into a brown object.

What's wrong with my Macs? I've tested this on my old MacPro and my new MacBookPro on two different Max 8 versions (the MacBookPro version has been updated today)

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synology drives, privileges ?

every MacOS update introduces more troubles when dealing with

what is allowed and what not.

copy few of your folders directly to desktop,

I am sure lt will work.

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Good try!

But this isn't the solution. Copied everything in my system paths and now on my desktop!

NO! and NO!!

I hate these sch... Macs more and more!

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That is very annoying.

Did you try to delete max filepaths stored in user library ?

also database.

What OS is it ?

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OSX Ventura 13.6.3 on my MacBookPro with Max 8.6.1

OSX Monterey 12.6.3 on my MacPro with Max 8.5.6

I've checked my libraies and every path has been added in the Paths List.

The strangest thing is that even pachers which are in the sam folder as the main patcher aren't loaded.

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I there anything in the path that could break it ?

what if you use dropfile to see if patchers

path is ok ?

As I mentioned, when max behaves strange, best is to wipe all it's settings, database, etc.

Actually all beside max authorisation file

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where is the Max database located exactly, and the authorisation file?

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in user Library/Application Support/Cycling '74 folder

you can find all of that.

user library is invisible, so you either use

go to ... in finder and type

~/Library

or better make it permanently visible using scripting.

type this 2 lines into terminal one after the other and hit enter.

xattr -d com.apple.FinderInfo ~/Library
chflags nohidden ~/Library
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ok. Wiped out everything in the Max 8 Library. Nothing new. I'm still missing the ability to link to external patchers : Brown objects for library and in-folder patchers.

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Once more, in order to avoid any kind of filepath-perturbation.

I've copied a Folder with 2 internally connected patchers using patchers from my library on my desktop.

After a double-click on my main patcher I get a series of errors in the Max Console telling me that pictures and objects (patchers in my library) connot be found or are not existing. The same happens with the patcher located directly in the folder.

I've deeply checked my system with Norton 360 for viruses and no one has been found in more than 6 million files.

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can you try dropfile and post issued path

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What's dropfile? I found a dropfile.at site.

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after resetting my folder in the file preferences, the links to my picture files worked, but Max continues to refuse working with any external patchers (abstractions).

I think that cannot be a path problem.

Opening directly my help files in my library folder, I find a brown object for its own abstraction, saved just besides it. My PC opens it as expected and the patcher works fine. I've already tried this with a copied version of the library in my documents folder on the Mac. It's not a network problem, because my synology folder is a physical copy of my network folder, synchronized onto all ma computers in order to have the same updated abstractions and files everywhere when I'm working offline for projects.

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dropfile is max external.

drop something on it, and you get path and filetype

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OK. This dropfile! I use it often, but forgot its exact name after having placed it in my abstractions ;-)

So: "Macintosh HD:/Users/arthurstammet/Desktop/WaveSequencer/SequencerFolderPaths.maxpat"

is not recognized in the patcher "Macintosh HD:/Users/arthurstammet/Desktop/Wave Sequencer/WaveSequencer.maxpat"

and

"Macintosh HD:/Users/arthurstammet/SynologyDrive/NoWa-Tools/waveTxtRead.maxhelp" does not find "Macintosh HD:/Users/arthurstammet/SynologyDrive/NoWa-Tools/waveTxtRead.maxpat", and this abstraction is part of my library and also used in "Macintosh HD:/Users/arthurstammet/Desktop/Wave Sequencer/WaveSequencer.maxpat"

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my actual pathlist:

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/externals

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/patchers

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/patchers/m4l/Lessons resources

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/patchers/m4l/LiveAPI resources

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/patchers/m4l/LiveAPI resources/abstractions

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/patchers/m4l/LiveAPI resources/helpers

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/patchers/m4l/LiveAPI resources/tools

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/patchers/m4l/Pluggo for Live resources

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/patchers/m4l/Pluggo for Live resources/images

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/patchers/m4l/Pluggo for Live resources/patches

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/patchers/m4l/Pluggo for Live resources/samples

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/patchers/m4l/Tools resources

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/help

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/help/jitter/halftone screens

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/help/m4l

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/help/max

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/help/msp

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/jsui

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/media

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/media/max

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/media/msp

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/docs

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/clippings

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/extras

Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max.app/Contents/Resources/C74/tours

Macintosh HD:/Users/arthurstammet/SynologyDrive/NoWa-Tools

Macintosh HD:/Users/arthurstammet/SynologyDrive/NoWa-Tools/_DelSyncFiles

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My library folder is: C:/Users/arthu/SynologyDrive/NoWa-Tools (on PC)

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My library folder is: Macintosh HD:/Users/arthurstammet/SynologyDrive/NoWa-Tools (on MAC)

trying (on my MAC) to connect to its direct root

home:/NoWa-Tools

also didn't work

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in preferences, also exclude dependency path storage into patchers ?

I am afraid I don't see what is wrong, if you remove all custom search paths,

restart max.

and place main patch and any abstraction used in it into a folder into any location

and run main patch from that folder, max should find it without added search path.

if it does not, then you must have a deeper problem on the system.

maybe max got translocated ?

I do not use custom search paths at all, to make sure subpatchers remain local

to my working folder where I can edit them without overwriting something globally.

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Hi.

I've already unchecked search paths and dependency paths, reinstalled Max several times, even after having completely erased Max from my Applications folder. The problem stays persistant on my two Macs. Trying to install Max 7 on my Silicon PC didn't work at all (the software didn't start) and an installation of Max 8.3.1 after having, once more cleaned up everything had the same result. The patcher located in the same folder as the calling one doesn't open and is turned to brown, but the pictures in my NoWa-Tools are shown in my patchers after having added this folder to my file preferences. Just externals do not work. And this on two very different computers with two operating systems and my PC MAX turns like a charm.

So happy to have at least this solution, but I have to compile some applications on both systems for my future projects with universty students who don't have MAX installed and are potentially working with any of both systems.

The MAC part is far away from what I call "professional". Far and farer away from year to year, just the prices have a highly professional level, for a machine I cannot use any more with Max after having payed more than 6000€.

What means translocated exactly?

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Already more than two days lost without any result and deadlines are approaching...

astammet's icon

I've just read this blog and my hope for solving this kind of problem turns to ZERO!

Questions: I imagine that Msx Install DMGs are signed by Apple. Why do my installs get translocated, if they do? How should I check this more easily than explained in this blog?

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app translocation in short is security "feature" of macOS since 10.12

which prevents app from running in normal environment.

That happens if app does not pass gatekeeper requirements for any reason.

You will find enough infos on the web about it.

I forgot to ask you to do following :

quit max, then right-click max app and after showing package contents,

go to Contents/MacOS folder

and doubleclick max , which will open it through terminal.

Which again will post about errors etc.

astammet's icon

OK, I've tested my Max Install with Terminal and it's really translocated.

WHY???

Isn't it possible to get an installer that installs Max without causing this kind of damn problems?

How do Others Do?

Source Audio's icon

ok try this

quit max

open terminal, type

sudo xattr -cr /Applications/Max.app

hit enter , enter pass and enter again.

that will remove apple quarantine flag from max

Source Audio's icon

Maybe you need to give terminal full disk access in system preferences

under security.

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OK. Max is now running from the Applications folder

I've tested it with ps xw ¦ grap Max

But the link to externals stays broken.

Source Audio's icon

3rd party externals are another story,

but how about abstractions, are they found now ?

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I could copy the contents of my externals into subpatchers, which are working and opening, because they are internal stuff, but my library has been built up during 20 years and uses a compex hierarchical system that always worked fine and allowed it to me to make elegant changes while adding functionality to my patchers.

I'm not willing to sacrify this flexibility and - more than that - hours and hours of time for this problem.

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no one abstraction, I mean patchers located in the same folder and called by their name, are loaded. They are clean Max patches using nothing other than max objects, no strange C++ stuff programmed for any ancient MAC.

astammet's icon

these abstactions work fine on my PC and did it for years on my MACs. I tested with 20-year old stuff as well as with recent ones.

astammet's icon

I'm programming patchers and applications for performances and installations since decades (beginning with Max 4.8) and know exactly how to build up stable systems that turn without any problem during hours and days, either on PC and on MAC.

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thanks to apple for this and 15 other issues of that kind.


but now... the spanish inquisition! (which has nothing to do with your nasty bug)

not that it should make a difference, but i must say you use a lot of search paths!

in my max 4 i use
../patches, for subfolders with projects of different classes
../externals, for my core abstractions libraries, spread across 4 subfolders and
/desktop.

then i have 6 or 7 folders right beside the max apps for special tasks only, such as the default location for exporting audiofiles (used by various projects), or the place for the preferences file for my virtual clipboard abstraction.

in modern version of max i first copied that system, then later learned how to use packages.

i really dont think you would have to change anything regarding your file organisation or your workflow by simply moving all your files into a package or a certain mother folder where everything is together, and then you only have to select that one folder for the file prefs, and all is included.

whenever the file prefs die (that happens sometimes, as i hear), you only need to reselect one folder or even know the path by heart and type it in.

if you for some reason need to have something stored inside the main folder but which you want to exclude from the search path, that is exactly what /packages paths can do.

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Thanks Roman for your post.

I HAVE my complete library in one only big folder: NoWa-Tools contains everything I need since years. The other folders connot be deleted and are added by default. They contain nothing more than the files added by Cycling'74.

So, my package is tightly bound and does its jobs since many years. Does it on PC, does it no more on my MACs, even after many hacks.

The problem IS NOT my library but Max refusing to load any kind of patches coming from outside one single patch, even if its located in the same folder.

MAX 8 is not MAX 4 and Apple isn't no more what it has been years ago

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While typing in a new object in a new patcher window the names stored in my installed library appear. After this the object turns to brown and cannot be used.

Really strange!