Finally discovered where the MSP tutorial drum loop came from.
Someone was/is a Scofield fan. Just randomly came up on Spotify today and I was like "hey...WAIT A MINUTE"
Happy Friday everyone.
Nice find! I just hope someday somebody will know what the cherokee is saying...
aw don't have spotify. But at least i know that i know, like, 5 secs of this song !
edit : 2 secs.
@frid
totally by accident i came across this when youtub-ing on night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnnqNyJJHDs
the voice sounds awfully identical to my ears, though i do not rediscover the exact sample.
really weird to suspect a max demo sound come from dirt like this..
:)
i suspect it's just be a dub using the same source material as the cherokee sample that c74 used (ie that video it is evidently a [crap] mash-up)
Yes! i'm afraid floating point is right though, it is a mash-up but cool to see there is more material of our mysterious indian out there...
(Dont ask why but for some reason i always think of this scene in natural born killers when hearing the cherokee sample)
I had, for a while at least, assumed it was some obscure recording of Jimmy Carl Black. But his background was Cheyenne, and I'm not even sure to what extent he spoke any native American language (although there is some indistinct material on one of the early Mothers albums that we are meant to take for speech in an Indian tongue).
A longer version of the Cherokee sample is used in the song "Interface Reality" by the band Children of the Bong on their 1995 album Sirius Sounds.
You first hear it around 1:33
*ahem* I'm afraid I have to take responsibility for that horrible Cherokee sample.
I had included it as a demo sound when I sent my Classic-Vocoder patch to C74, way back in 1999(?). I never, ever expected that they would include it in the distribution, and was actually a bit mortified when they did!
It's actually a Cherokee Indian reading a passage from the bible, if you can believe it. I did not make the sample myself, it was floating around on my hard drive at the time and I have no idea where it came from. I had never heard of Children of the Bong either, and am quite surprised to hear it in this track.
My apologies to anyone this sample may have offended, and I'm especially sorry to the owner of that voice, wherever he is.
My students must have heard it hundreths of times. Lately one of them even got it by accident in a videogame exercice using Max as sound engine.
I like this "cherokee" sample. It's part of Max history now... how ironic that its origin is lost probably forever ;) ...
Here's a longer sample of the Cherokee:
And perhaps a lead to a possible source:
I doubt there are many Maxers who can listen to cherokee.aif without wondering at some point where it came from; many thanks to all the intrepid researchers above who have finally solved this mystery.
:)
It's a really old thread but I just found out about the Scofield beat also while listening to the album recently. I believe the drummer is Omar Hakim. Amazing drummer also that played with Sting on Dream of the blue turtle album and let's dance David Bowie and countless others. Anyways cheers!