General MIDI synth

jaiserpe's icon

Does Max for Mac have its own GM synth?

TFL's icon

No, it uses the macOS builtin one (AU DLS).

jaiserpe's icon

Thanks.

Why I don't see that AU DLS from Audacity?

jaiserpe's icon

Nor from Reaper?

TFL's icon

Now you make me wonder. The doc says

Max uses your machine's built-in MIDI synthesizer as its default MIDI output destination. With the OS-provided, built-in synthesizer, you can make sound without any external MIDI gear.

But maybe it's a shortcut and AU DLS comes with Max?

(TIL you can import MIDI files in Audacity)

jaiserpe's icon

15 years ago people wondered as well without a definitive answer.

This was for Pure Data:

jaiserpe's icon

Can we solve it this time?

Source Audio's icon

there is nothing to solve.

if you have a mac , simply test it if you don't trust

in existance of Apple DLS synth.

you can also load it as AU plugin into vst~

jaiserpe's icon

Thanks

It works in my Mac, but this isn't only to make it work without knowing the base.

Why Apple DLS synth is not seen from Reaper, Pure Data, Audacity, ...

TFL's icon

Source Audio gave the answer: it's available as a plugin.

Here's someone loading it in Ableton Live. You could do the same in Reapper or other DAWs. Not sure for Audacity though.

jaiserpe's icon

I see.

Here is a video showing the same for Reaper.

For Audacity that must not be possible I guess.

For Pure Data vanilla neither I guess.

Thanks.

LSka's icon

Audacity can't use plugins marked as "Instrument".

jaiserpe's icon

Summary from an AI:

The Apple GM Synth is one thing, an AU plugin, but...

Max includes its own internal MIDI-to-AudioUnit bridge. That is why Max can show it like, only like, a midi device.