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Hi there, I've got a small abstraction (see attachement) that assigns a random name to a coll. 

Somewhere else in the patch I need to use the same coll that is nested in the abstraction. I'd use the "refer" message to bind the coll to the correct one, but unfortunately I can't seem to be able to query its name. 

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Hi there, I've got a small abstraction (see attachement) that assigns a random name to a coll. 
Somewhere else in the patch I need to use the same coll that is nested in the abstraction. I'd use the "refer" message to bind the coll to the correct one, but unfortunately I can't seem to be able to query its name. 
Any idea ? 

Hi there, I've got a small abstraction (see attachement) that assigns a random name to a coll. 
Somewhere else in the patch I need to use th

get-a-coll's-name

You could add a message with (#0_ThisColl) to the abstraction, then route a (getname) message and send that out an extra outlet as a workaround. 

You could add a message with (#0_ThisColl) to the abstraction, then route a (getname) message and send that out an extra outlet as a workaround. 
Abstraction:

So basically, whenever you put #0 in a patch, #0 is always replaced by the same number ?

And if I want to generate several random names, I'd go with #1, #2, and so on ?

Is there some documentation about those "random naming" conventions ?

Wonderful, thank you so much ! 
So basically, whenever you put #0 in a patch, #0 is always replaced by the same number ?
And if I want to generate several random names, I'd go with #1, #2, and so on ? 

Is there some documentation about those "random naming" conventions ? 

#0 inside an abstraction is always a "unique" number in the sense that if you make multiple instances of the abstraction they get a different number. But inside the scope of one of those abstractions all the #0 will indeed have the same value. But if you go one level deeper the #0 will be a different unique number again. #1, #2... are replaced by arguments given to the abstraction in the patcher one level up. This example passes 3 unique numbers to an abstraction one level up:

That makes everything clear. Thanks so much.

Get a coll's name ?