Ronald Legere

Is there any resource out there similar to Eric Lyons's "Designing Audio Objects for Max/MSP and Pd" but up to date for recent versions of Max / MSP ? Or is perhaps this book still a good place to start? Or should I just dig into the SDK without hand holding? I am an experienced C programmer but don't know much about audio programming.

Is there any resource out there similar to Eric Lyons's "Designing Audio Objects for Max/MSP and Pd" but up to date for recent versions of Max / MSP ?  Or is perhaps this book still a good place to start?  Or should I just dig into the SDK without hand holding?   I am an experienced C programmer but don't know much about audio programming.   

Is there any resource out there similar to Eric Lyons's "Designing Audio Objects for Max/MSP and Pd" but up to date for recent versions of M

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here's some steps i could recommend if you're going specifically for audio:

1) read through the SDK first... but stop at the chapters that begin to describe Jitter

https://cycling74.com/sdk/max-sdk-8.0.3/html/index.html

see in the panel on the left, you could just read through the Max and MSP sections, starting from the very first page "Objects in C: A Roadmap" going up to "MC"... maybe also just make sure your dev environ is setup properly by building a few of the example objects.. if you want to get into audio but have no experience there, i'd recommend building [simpwave~](or [index~] if you'd prefer even simpler), and [lores~]... that gives you a buffer-reading object and a lopass filter object(both easy to play with and mod), and assures your development setup is all good to go

2) search the forums here for code/help on any basics you might be struggling with (see the 'dev' forums, in particular)

3) Eric Lyon's book is still very relevant, but there are updates(so i put step 2 in that order for a good reason, haha), here's the main thread that will point the way to those:

https://cycling74.com/forums/for-readers-of-designing-audio-objects-for-maxmsp-and-pd/

but in searching forums you'll find many conversations that deal with the book and other things which will help you understand how things changed over time(between Max7.1 and Max8, the SDK didn't change much beyond adding 'MC' objects, which are also not so difficult to understand... you mainly want to pay attention to anything relevant to changes in code from 32-bit operating systems to 64-bit.. you can easily avoid confusion there by only dealing with any code written from Max7.1 SDK to the most current(unless you need 32-bit for some reason, stick with 64-bit-relevant code only); in that thread, the relevant updates and information are actually linked closer to the end of the thread).... all in all, if you read the book for the general audio algorithms, and then look more detailed at the most up-to-date code examps from that thread, you'll be set, especially if you've gained at least a little familiarity with the SDK before all that, too

here's some steps i could recommend if you're going specifically for audio:
1) read through the  SDK first... but stop at the chapters that begin to describe Jitter
https://cycling74.com/sdk/max-sdk-8.0.3/html/index.html
  see in the panel on the left, you could just read through the Max and MSP sections, starting from the very first page "Objects in C: A Roadmap" going up to "MC"... maybe also just make sure your dev environ is setup properly by building a few of the example objects.. if you want to get into audio but have no experience there, i'd recommend building [simpwave~](or [index~] if you'd prefer even simpler), and [lores~]... that gives you a buffer-reading object and a lopass filter object(both easy to play with and mod), and assures your development setup is all good to go

2) search the forums here for code/help on any basics you might be struggling with (see the 'dev' forums, in particular)

3) Eric Lyon's book is still very relevant, but there are updates(so i put step 2 in that order for a good reason, haha), here's the main thread that will point the way to those:
https://cycling74.com/forums/for-readers-of-designing-audio-objects-for-maxmsp-and-pd/
    but in searching forums you'll find many conversations that deal with the book and other things which will help you understand how things changed over time(between Max7.1 and Max8, the SDK didn't change much beyond adding 'MC' objects, which are also not so difficult to understand... you mainly want to pay attention to anything relevant to changes in code from 32-bit operating systems to 64-bit.. you can easily avoid confusion there by only dealing with any code written from Max7.1 SDK to the most current(unless you need 32-bit for some reason, stick with 64-bit-relevant code only); in that thread, the relevant updates and information are actually linked closer to the end of the thread).... all in all, if you read the book for the general audio algorithms, and then look more detailed at the most up-to-date code examps from that thread, you'll be set, especially if you've gained at least a little familiarity with the SDK before all that, too

I very much appreciate you taking the time to provide this very helpful response! I started jumping into the SDK and I am finding it not bad going at all, solid advice.

I very much appreciate you taking the time to provide this very helpful response!   I started jumping into the SDK and I am finding it not bad going at all, solid advice.

Cheers!!!!!

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