IvnOs

Have seen some patches that are using a [sig~] object to convert values from Max data and route them into some MSP object. (For example arguments for [adsr~])

Is it useful? People who used that, told me that routing like that is click less, but as I understand it is much more cpu hungry to convert every value from your dials. Also I haven't heard any clicks without [sig~] convertion.

So is there any real cons and odds of using a [sig~], as an argument value converter, or it is just a big fake?

Have seen some patches that are using a [sig~] object to convert values from Max data and route them into some MSP object. (For example arguments for [adsr~])
Is it useful? People who used that, told me that routing like that is click less, but as I understand it is much more cpu hungry to convert every value from your dials. Also I haven't heard any clicks without [sig~] convertion.

So is there any real cons and odds of using a [sig~], as an argument value converter, or it is just a big fake?


msp-vs-max-control-values

https://docs.cycling74.com/max5/tutorials/msp-tut/msphowmspworks.html

Using audio (MSP) signals for control, instead of control (Max) message, is much more accurate (meaning in time accuracy).

An audio sample, cannot be late!, but a Max message can!

Depending on what your goal is, there is a better suiting approach weighting accuracy and CPU consumption.

For the example of [adsr~] If you set the arguments by hand, there is no need to turn them to signals.

Generally, if you want something to be as much accurate as possible (time-wise) , do it in the MSP domain, if not, Max messages are OK (usually).

As for the CPU load, with the CPU power nowadays, I wouldn't bother thinking of that. Just to be cleat, I wouldn't convert all my dials to audio, but where I *need* sample accurate calculation, I use audio signals.

Hope this helps, but I might have confused you more... so, yeap!

Hi IVNOS,
Using audio (MSP) signals for control, instead of control (Max) message, is much more accurate (meaning in time accuracy).
An audio sample, cannot be late!, but a Max message can! 

Depending on what your goal is, there is a better suiting approach weighting accuracy and CPU consumption.
For the example of [adsr~] If you set the arguments by hand, there is no need to turn them to signals.

Hope this helps, but I might have confused you more... so, yeap!
Nik


NIKOLAS K, no you are not confused me more. You just confirmed my thoughts. I just thought if i will use [sig~] conversion, it will give me some magical profit when i'm manualy entering values. You just teared away this stupid thoughts out of me.

it is "clickless" when you use line msp, sig msp does not do more than feeding a number into the other msp object.

and in both cases the message will affect the signal value only with the beginning of the next vector.

MSP vs Max control values