Need OLD copy of MAX (3.5.?) for a 68K Mac 7.5.5
I have a 68K (pre PPC) Macintosh running System 7.5.5. There is a krack version of Max 3.5.1 available online from the MacintoshGarden, but I cannot get it to run when I transfer it to the old Mac (crashes with Error Type 3). It seems MaxPlay 3.5.1 loads however. Opcode is long gone, so is there no hope for getting a version of Max that will run on a 20 year old computer? Does anyone have an archived zip or disk image? This seems to bother me for archival reasons, though I suppose old patches can be loaded on newer hardware - my problem is trying to use older hardware to run them.
On a related note, will the first iteration of MSP work on a 68K Macintosh? Can that be found anywhere? Is there a version of "M" for the 68K Mac? I have found a freeware copy online for Atari ST.
Thank you
This one is for you @Roman Thilenius ;)
just a friendly piece of advice-- if you want to get an unauthorized / dead copy of the software you probably need to supply some contact details in your profile so people can respond privately....
as if i would have anything to do with MacOS classic ^^
no, MSP is PPC only. if i am not wrong...
it would be better if you had a higher OS so that you can use max 4. if you own any newer version, cycling is still able to generate you a license (but only based on C/R)
a performa or quadra will run OS 8.1 just fine, but i am not sure if max4 will run on 8.1 already, even if you upgrade the network, quicktime and quickdraw extensions... (i almost wrote "externals")
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If I remember correctly, Max3 authorisations were on floppies. Not sure your old Mac's drive still works.
About M, I had a version running on a Mac SE (i.e. 68000) under OS.6 with a nice Apple MIDI interface. I don't remember I had to authorize it to make it working, but it was such a long time ago… (I don't have access to this Mac anymore, so I can't help you).
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or forget about M and create something better.
MSP definitely required PPC or better. This is probably stated in the WIkipedia article on Max/MSP. In any case, I can confirm.
Alas, I don't think my Max 3.5 disks are complete any more. Possibly not absolutely essential, but I don't think I have the docs any more, either.
Yes, there was a version of "M" for 68k Mac OS. I seem to recall that both M and JamFactory were originally Mac apps (programmed by David Zicarelli) and that the Atari ports came later. There's an article in CMJ from back in the day with some detail, coauthored by David and Joel Chadabe.
An afterthought for Roman: yes, of course you can build something in today's Max that could do things better (or, at least, differently,-) than M. But given than Alloy was asking about using a 68k-based Mac, you'd be hard pressed to get as much information inside a 512x384 pixel monitor (i.e., a Mac SE or similar) as M and Jam Factory did. David and Joel (I'm not sure who was more responsible for design) was very clever with layout when screen real estate was at such a premium.
one should always use the term "better" even if something completely different was meant, because otherwise young people wont understand you.