precise value of signal to message without precise timing (msp / gen)

Hello,

New here. Apologies for the logic-on-top-of-signal question (I know it's fraught). Thanks in advance for any help.

I have some gen~ patches that do basic amplitude envelope and timbral analysis on a signal. They result values at intervals (usually 50–250 ms) that are dynamically specified as a parameters. The patches sample-and-hold those values until new values are resulted, so the outputs are signal-rate streams of floats that change at the specified intervals.

I want to retrieve those floats as max messages when they cross certain thresholds. I do not need precise timing from those max messages (for my purposes it is okay if they are delayed up to 150 ms); however, I do need the precise values. In other words, I would like the values that trigger the threshold logic gates.

I have tried, for example, [signal] --> [>~ threshold] --> [edge~] --> [snapshot~] but this is often inaccurate, with or without overdrive and interrupt, seemingly as a result of interval / signal vector phasing. Maybe could work if [snapshot~ @offset] had a memory of one signal vector, but even then I'd have to double check the [>~], which seems so inelegant.

If only [>~] or [edge~] could directly pass the value that triggered its logic result as a message...

Is there a way to retrieve these values as messages? In Gen~? Is there an external that can do this? How do signal-to-message objects like peakamp~ or snapshot~ work? How are they made?

One alternative would be to [snapshot~] at the specified reporting intervals and check threshold in message domain, but then my question is: how do I sync the reporting intervals of multiple signal-to-message objects (snapshot~, average~, peakamp~, etc.) so that they are reading the same signal vector when they result?

Thanks,

rjg