Problems with pfft~ in Max4Live

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KLEROS

Hi everyone,

I'm experiencing some issues with having a pfft~ subpatch inside a Max4Live patch, and I'm not sure what the root of the problem is. My guess at the moment is just having this pfft~ subpatch, since I have never had any problems with my other patches or even having a poly~ subpatch.

Both the main patch (.amxd) and the subpatch (.maxpat) are in the same folder: /Ableton/User Library/Presets/Audio Effects/ Max Audio Effects/

The Max4Live Patch is frozen, but I cannot freeze the subpatch. The freeze sign is greyed out since the format is .maxpat.

Maybe there's something wrong with my patching. I don't have much experience with pfft~ so I'm using this patch from a lesson as a tryout.

My problems are:

  • It works well only in one track. The moment that I add the effect into another track, it stops working properly and there are some artifacts as well in both tracks.

  • Ableton crashes sometimes if I change one of the parameters. So it's not reliable.


    Thanks!

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KLEROS

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Blue Wall Loop

Hi Kleros,

I'm still working out M4L as well so may not be the correct answer but heres what I think.

Firstly both the Max Patches [copy and paste] were just the same so I couldn't test your pfft~ object.
Second, for the errors of it works well on one track but when you do a second it crashes out. This is most likely due to the global nature of patches. You might want to try adding a '---' to your pfft object [pfft~ ---distfft 1024] so each time you add a new device to a new track, it becomes it own unique pfft instead of both reading the same (Most likely why the crash). [https://docs.cycling74.com/legacy/max8/vignettes/live_symbols]

This is something I'm yet to try out though so may not be the answer you need.

All the best,
Blue

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KLEROS

Hi Blue,

oh sorry about the the attachments! Hopefully it's correct now.

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Thanks for the info! It helped a lot.
I changed the name of the [pfft~] to [---distfft] first, but it didn't seem to make any difference.

I realized after that I should've also added the "---" to other objects inside the [pfft~]. There are some [jit.] objects and one [s] and [r]. After that, I tried again in Live and it seems to work properly in different tracks :)

P.S.: the float number boxes over the [live.numbox] are there because I find live number boxes (as float) very jumpy. Even when pressing shift. I don't know if you have the same experience.

Thanks again! Best regards