Ernest

Well one has to say taking something as old as Max and getting it to work in a browser environment at all is a remarkable technical achievement. If it had a way of producing a UI display, I could use it for my Ptolemy project, but my request for knowing if Jitter might be available as a Java kind of applet or something was ignored, so core development in it is still rather limited. The market for audio 

is glutted, and without being able to produce a UI beyond sliders and whatever, its just not that appealing to users for other applications. Of course Im tempted to do so, because I know Max, but I still cant see how I can sell it otherwise.

So, great technical achievement. The real problem for users remains that there is no way to add copy protection on an app. So it is a nice toy for academia. But it just still isn't a viable production environment, and for myself, as a user since Max 5, I am just not willing to fork out yet more money for a toy, and I can only believe that is why Cycling74's user base has been declining for a long time.

This is a little annoying to me, because I put alot of effort, a decade overall, and at least a year of work clock time into making my synthcore library at 

I actually dont have a reason at this time to make an RNBO version, or to buy anything to do so, and that is a real problem for advancing the avaialable code base that has extended beyond me for alot of other deevelopers for a VERY LONG TIME NOW.

I note the comments on the announcement are turned off. Im very sad. Cycling74 has never needed to do that before.

Well one has to say taking something as old as Max and getting it to work in a browser environment at all is a remarkable technical achievement. If it had a way of producing a UI display, I could use it for my Ptolemy project, but my request for knowing if Jitter might be available as a Java kind of applet or something was ignored, so core development in it is still rather limited. The market for audio 
is glutted, and without being able to produce a UI beyond sliders and whatever, its just not that appealing to users for other applications. Of course Im tempted to do so, because I know Max, but I still cant see how I can sell it otherwise.  


So, great technical achievement. The real problem for users remains that there is no way to add copy protection on an app. So it is a nice toy for academia. But it just still isn't a viable production environment, and for myself, as a user since Max 5, I am just not willing to fork out yet more money for a toy, and I can only believe that is why Cycling74's user base has been declining for a long time. 


This is a little annoying to me, because I put alot of effort, a decade overall, and at least a year of work clock time into making my synthcore library at https://yofiel.com/audio/synthcore.php 

I actually dont have a reason at this time to make an RNBO version, or to buy anything to do so, and that is a real problem for advancing the avaialable code base that has extended beyond me for alot of other deevelopers for a VERY LONG TIME NOW.  

I note the comments on the announcement are turned off. Im very sad. Cycling74 has never needed to do that before. 

Well one has to say taking something as old as Max and getting it to work in a browser environment at all is a remarkable technical ... 

rnbo-ius-remarkable-but-doesnt-solve-the-actual-problem

"The real problem for users remains that there is no way to add copy protection on an app." ?

As far as my research gleaned, the license was open even (for the the current release version) for commercial ventures.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by:
 "The real problem for users remains that there is no way to add copy protection on an app." ?

Ernest's comment isn't about the RNBO license, it's about getting a straightforward way for someone releasing software to prevent someone who purchases it from giving it to all their friends and random strangers.

Presumably one can put RNBO-generated code into a VST using JUCE and there are probably decent solutions for copy protection that work inside JUCE framework. But those don't apply to Max standalone Apps, or Max for Live devices etc.

Ernest's comment isn't about the RNBO license, it's about getting a straightforward way for someone releasing software to prevent someone who purchases it from giving it to all their friends and random strangers. 

Presumably one can put RNBO-generated code into a VST using JUCE and there are probably decent solutions for copy protection that work inside JUCE framework.  But those don't apply to Max standalone Apps, or Max for Live devices etc.

I checked out your synth core library, and it looks really interesting! I can see why you wouldn't want to invest in an RNBO version right now.

It would open up more possibilities for using RNBO in different applications. Regarding Jitter, it's a shame that your request for a Java applet or something similar was ignored. It seems like there are still limitations in terms of core development. It's a shame that you don't currently have a reason to create an RNBO version or invest in it. I hope that the available code base can continue to grow and benefit other developers in the future. Btw, what do you think about this 

It would open up more possibilities for using RNBO in different applications. Regarding Jitter, it's a shame that your request for a Java applet or something similar was ignored. It seems like there are still limitations in terms of core development. It's a shame that you don't currently have a reason to create an RNBO version or invest in it. I hope that the available code base can continue to grow and benefit other developers in the future. Btw, what do you think about this real earning app? Just curious to know what you think.

RNBO is remarkable, but one still cant make money off it