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axers fall

In this tutorial,I will show you how to make basic types of filters by defining a certain band range with pfft~ object.

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Please check out my youtube channel for more Max/MSP ambient sound design videos!!!!!! Like,Share and Subscribe :  https://youtube.com/@axersfall369?si=O84jQK6eTGOsH1T5

In this tutorial,I will show you how to make basic types of filters by defining a certain band range with pfft~ object.
 


Join my patreon ... 

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Hi AXERS FALL. Thank you for this very interesting step-by-step tutorial.

May I take this opportunity to ask more general questions about pfft~ and filtering ?

It seems that pfft~ acts as an extremely efficient filter (it purely eliminates unwanted frequencies, preserves phases ... ). But can it advantageously be used in lieu of all the other filter objects available in MAX ?  Are there instances where it makes more sense to keep using them ?

Do some standard MAX filter objects contain some "hidden" pfft~ code, or are they all sample-based algorithms ?

I learned from previous experiences that converting frequencies into bin# can be challenging (1 frequency can spread over several bin#), but is there any other inconveniences in using pfft~ as a filter ?

I'm not good at English,but I kinda get what are you asking......
pfft~ object can insert some effects(like delay,distortion ETC.) to specific frequency bands like band20(? frequency --- ? frequency)only band 20 apply the effects you insert.(you can do band20 is delay effect and in the meantime,band 32 and band 55 is distortion effect),this is the application for fft~ process I usually used.
filters I think just filters,maybe use other algorithms......but I prefer build-in objects like reson~,onepole~,I use them a lot......(because I know nothing about the filter algorithmsLOL)

none of the vanilla filter externals have anything to do with FFT... though one could argue that buffir~´s process is based on a releated theory, which you also often use with FFTs.

never use buffir~ object before...but I think they are different objects and process......sorry,I'm still learning fft~ objects,maybe there's more application method around this object......maybe you can check out more fft~ patch in file browser.

Sebastien Gay : using pfft~ does not allow you to "purely eliminate frequencies, preserve phases". There are lots of cases where you might prefer other kinds of filters. Experiment. Listen to the artifacts. Make you choice based on the specific application. I would even ask the question the other way around: are there cases where it might be advantageous to use pfft~ rather than another kind of filter? There are, indeed.
Anyway, anybody interested in the content of the video should study the Forbidden planet example, as well as the FFT-related tutorials, both included with Max.

classic misunderstandment that FFT would offer a flat phase spectrum or an infinite steep transition band.

its strength lies elsewhere and not in technical properties. for example it is great for vocoding with free re-routing of bands to other bands. or for learning a noise profile.

There are, indeed. Anyway, anybody interested in the content of the video should study the Forbidden planet example, as well as the FFT-related tutorials, both included with Max.

How people look surprised by my naive beginner questions, sometimes surprises me ;-)
I am fully aware that these audio-signal-processing things  are probably far too complicated in comparison to what I will ever be able to understand. But I have, over the past few months, spent more time than a basic MAX explorer like me should do, on different pfft~ trials, in order to improve. When I said "purely eliminates unwanted frequencies" (as opposed to other types of filters), for instance, I was referring to this type of images : 

The only real limitation, as far as I can figure out, is the fact that there is not simple direct relationship between a given frequency value and a specific bin#. A frequency can be "present" in a range of consecutive bin#, making it difficult to "target" precisely which bin# to select or eliminate ?

@ Roman : I think I understand what you mean about PFFT's strength, though !

A pure musical consideration, lastly : I love how pfft~-filtered noise sounds ! ;-)

it is true that with FFT is it computationally cheaper and easier to realize -∞db  within a few semitones. (or a few semitones more in the sub 100Hz range)

but what is a good brickwallfilter worth when you can not set the frequency parameter as you wish and when it comes with 8000 samples latency? :)

the relationship of bins vs hertz is simple; it is linear. in a pfft 4096 you work with bands of 10.7 Hz each, from zero to nyquist.


Also, if you are interested in the fact that what the FFT does is equivalent to what 512 (or more) bandbass filters do, read Mark Dolson's article "The Phase Vocoder: a Tutorial". Computer Music Journal, 1986, a reference.

[Spectral Process with pfft~] basic filters

Manus Sweeney

I cam across an m4l device FM Techre  released about 15 years ago and although there is a webpage to purchase, I have received no feedback from the seller.

FM TECHRE - Autechre style FM drum synth - Max For Live Patch

Just wondering if anyone knows of a similar device (i am aware of Fors Opal)?

Hi,

I cam across an m4l device FM Techre  released about 15 years ago and although there is a webpage to purchase, I have received no...

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Old M4L Device - FM Techre

In this video, I will show you how to play sound with 

also simple questions here, how can I code those attributes like peek @boundmode mirror? the boundmode attributes? THANKS!!!!!!

please check out my youtube channel for more Max/MSP ambient sound design videos!!!

In this video, I will show you how to play sound with gen.codebox~

also simple questions here, how can I code those attributes like peek...

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[Max/MSP tutorial] "basics" of gen.codebox~

Merlin Erdogmus

I am writing to express my gratitude for addressing an issue I raised regarding the behavior of the Ctrl + Mouse wheel function in the Windows version of Max. As I reported in my ticket, the default behavior on Windows was inverted, mimicking the macOS setting, where:

While macOS offers an option to switch this behavior to match Windows/Linux, unfortunately, Windows does not provide a similar option, leaving software developers to address this individually.

I am pleased to inform you that the issue was resolved on October 30, 2024. This may seem like a minor issue, but your responsiveness to user feedback is truly appreciated. After 19 years of using computer programs, I can confidently say that you are the first company to actively listen and implement a fix for this particular problem.

Thank you once again for your attention to detail and for demonstrating genuine care for your users. I greatly appreciate it!

Dear Support Team,

I am writing to express my gratitude for addressing an issue I raised regarding the behavior of the Ctrl + Mouse wheel...

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Kudos and thanks for everything.

Please check out my youtube channel for more 

you can find all my associated "website" links on my youtube channel!!!such as 

[video showcase] sound design only with gen~

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MakePatchesNotWar

Chris is putting shame to our species, surely u can do a better job? I can't accept us getting beaten a bunch of monkeys like this... 

Granted we aren't getting a peanut when we solve it so that is also a factor but still... 

(They also got me beat though as i can do it nowhere near the same speed as them)

-put both files in the same folder. Open the file that starts with "main" (my poly~ naming convention sucks i know, sorry)

- Start the jit.world and start. Clicking "0" the first time will reset the whole session and i think it's because of lingering values? Don't worry, it doesn't keep an overall score....

Chris is putting shame to our species, surely u can do a better job? I can't accept us getting beaten a bunch of monkeys like this......

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[Sharing appears to get out of fashion?] Do the monkey memory test!

Ernest

Well one has to say taking something as old as Max and getting it to work in a browser environment at all is a remarkable technical achievement. If it had a way of producing a UI display, I could use it for my Ptolemy project, but my request for knowing if Jitter might be available as a Java kind of applet or something was ignored, so core development in it is still rather limited. The market for audio 

is glutted, and without being able to produce a UI beyond sliders and whatever, its just not that appealing to users for other applications. Of course Im tempted to do so, because I know Max, but I still cant see how I can sell it otherwise.

So, great technical achievement. The real problem for users remains that there is no way to add copy protection on an app. So it is a nice toy for academia. But it just still isn't a viable production environment, and for myself, as a user since Max 5, I am just not willing to fork out yet more money for a toy, and I can only believe that is why Cycling74's user base has been declining for a long time.

This is a little annoying to me, because I put alot of effort, a decade overall, and at least a year of work clock time into making my synthcore library at 

I actually dont have a reason at this time to make an RNBO version, or to buy anything to do so, and that is a real problem for advancing the avaialable code base that has extended beyond me for alot of other deevelopers for a VERY LONG TIME NOW.

I note the comments on the announcement are turned off. Im very sad. Cycling74 has never needed to do that before.

Well one has to say taking something as old as Max and getting it to work in a browser environment at all is a remarkable technical achievement. If it had a way of producing a UI display, I could use it for my Ptolemy project, but my request for knowing if Jitter might be available as a Java kind of applet or something was ignored, so core development in it is still rather limited. The market for audio 
is glutted, and without being able to produce a UI beyond sliders and whatever, its just not that appealing to users for other applications. Of course Im tempted to do so, because I know Max, but I still cant see how I can sell it otherwise.  


So, great technical achievement. The real problem for users remains that there is no way to add copy protection on an app. So it is a nice toy for academia. But it just still isn't a viable production environment, and for myself, as a user since Max 5, I am just not willing to fork out yet more money for a toy, and I can only believe that is why Cycling74's user base has been declining for a long time. 


This is a little annoying to me, because I put alot of effort, a decade overall, and at least a year of work clock time into making my synthcore library at https://yofiel.com/audio/synthcore.php 

I actually dont have a reason at this time to make an RNBO version, or to buy anything to do so, and that is a real problem for advancing the avaialable code base that has extended beyond me for alot of other deevelopers for a VERY LONG TIME NOW.  

I note the comments on the announcement are turned off. Im very sad. Cycling74 has never needed to do that before. 

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