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I'm trying to recreate some of the presets from the "Analog" instrument in ableton live and I am having trouble implementing a similar sounding filter with msp objects. For example, one preset uses a 24db lowpass filter, so I've tried a couple different methods. First I tried linking 2 lores~ objects which didn't replicate the effect. I then tried two biquad~ objects with lowpass coefficients, no luck there. Lastly I tried linking 4 onepole~ objects together and still didn't come up with anything that sounds similar. That's pretty much the most I can do with my scope of filter knowledge.

I feel confident that these are all correctly implementing 4 pole/24 db lowpass techniques, and I do get that effect but to me it sounds way different from the filter in live which is making recreating these sounds difficult.

I also tried a couple lowpass filters that were posted by other users here (the PMLadder and 0dfsvf). They sound awesome, but I'm specifically looking to recreate sounds made with that instrument.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get that same sound?

I'm trying to recreate some of the presets from the "Analog" instrument in ableton live and I am having trouble implementing a similar sounding filter with msp objects. For example, one preset uses a 24db lowpass filter, so I've tried a couple different methods. First I tried linking 2 lores~ objects which didn't replicate the effect. I then tried two biquad~ objects with lowpass coefficients, no luck there. Lastly I tried linking 4  onepole~ objects together and still didn't come up with anything  that sounds similar. That's pretty much the most I can do with my scope of filter knowledge. 

I also tried a couple lowpass filters that were posted by other users here (the PMLadder and 0dfsvf). They sound awesome, but I'm specifically looking to recreate sounds made with that instrument. 

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get that same sound?


recreating-a-filter-from-ableton-live

Difficult, even from an Ableton perspective since the filter code is the applied acoustics ultra analog v1 and not ableton native...

To achieve something like this in Max you would almost certainly have to delve into Gen.

Ultra Analog/Analog are virtual analog synths, so the filter designs are based on the modeling of physical circuits. Not exactly a cakewalk for a beginning filter designer.

Check this thread—and particularly the PDF that I link to in it—if you want to start down the Gen filter design rabbit hole.

https://cycling74.com/forums/good-sources-for-gen-dsp-code-online

To achieve something like this in Max you would almost certainly have to delve into Gen. 

https://cycling74.com/forums/good-sources-for-gen-dsp-code-online


Ah, thank you so much for linking this - that pdf looks super helpful! I had a feeling it would involve some complicated filter design and I'm excited to learn and experiment.

Recreating a Filter From Ableton Live