would ClojureScript on Node.js on Max 8 be possible now?

    Sep 29 2018 | 5:57 pm
    I'm curious whether anyone has managed or is trying to get ClojureScript working with Max now that Max 8 supports Node.js and ClojureScript can run on node without java through the Lumo project?
    I for one would love to be able to do score processing with clojure in the max, perhaps even get Steven Yi's score project working in cljs.

    • Sep 30 2018 | 5:47 pm
      This should be possible in principle. If I understand correctly, the thing you'd want to do would be to emit JS using ClojureScript, then include that as a Node module?
    • Oct 01 2018 | 4:31 am
      I'm honestly not sure yet. Lisps are just so nice for doing musical processing, so I'm hoping to explore whether ClojureScript is a good avenue for doing that and integrating with Max.
    • Oct 07 2018 | 3:23 am
      Hello Iain If you look for a way to use Lisp in Max, beyond node.js or Clojure itself, I'm developing a system based on the bach package and SBCL (via Shell) to do exactly that. I have been using for a few projects over the past years, it works pretty well and almost without latency — SBCL is also pretty damn fast ! In particular, it allowed to port some libraries from the PW-OpenMusic-PWGL family pretty easily to the real-time world, and it uses bach as an input/output interface but also to generate the lisp code itself. At the moment it's more of a method — I wrote a paper about it for ICMC 2017 — but I'm in the process of documenting it and turning it into a package. Let me know if you're interested, I could send you some materials. Best, Julien
    • Oct 07 2018 | 5:15 am
      Hi Julien, I would definitely be interested in learning more about it. Is the paper public access?
      Thanks! iain
    • Oct 07 2018 | 5:32 am
      Yes, I wasn't sure but you can get the pdf here : http://hdl.handle.net/2027/spo.bbp2372.2017.012 Feel free to shoot me an email if you're interested in trying the current dev. Just so you know, the system works currently only on mac but I hope I can find someone to help me make a windows version soon. Windows 10 can use a unix shell but there is no shell object yet I think ; maybe with node.js it could be easy to talk to SBCL or any other lisp. Best, Julien
    • Oct 07 2018 | 4:26 pm
      Thanks Julien, I will definitely check it out! :-)
    • Oct 08 2018 | 5:32 pm
      Julien, that looks right up my interests. Out of curiosity, have you checked out Steven Yi's Score project in clojure?
    • Oct 08 2018 | 6:32 pm
      No I didn't hear about it, I found a video about a system used (it seems) to control synthesis, is that the one?
    • Oct 08 2018 | 11:23 pm
      I'm not sure, but it's this one here, he has two related projects, Pink and Score. https://github.com/kunstmusik
    • Oct 09 2018 | 7:04 pm
      ok I see ! that makes me think of other notation systems based on Lisp. I listed a few of them in my paper, but again my knowledge of Clojure is close to zero, it looks really like another world to me. To make a metaphor, if Max is CommonLISP and Pd is Scheme, Clojure would be SuperCollider maybe... 😂
    • Feb 18 2019 | 1:26 am
      Hi Julien, I was wondering if you managed to publish your package since this thread?
    • Feb 18 2019 | 1:49 am
      Hi Iain Not yet, I'm pretty slow since I started my PhD last year, but I'm in the process of revamping/extending/documenting MozLib the pedagogical library which includes my lisp system for Max. I just converted it to package format and I plan for a release around April. If you are interested in testing it give me your address and I will add you to my mailing list and send you a beta when it's ready. Best, Julien
    • Feb 18 2019 | 2:48 am
      Hi Julien, I would definitely be interested in checking out a beta. I'm sure my prof Andrew Schloss at the University of Victoria would be too as he does a lot of Max work. My email is iainctduncan@gmail.com