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Is there a way to debug issues (for example: get console logs like we do in web browser) on jweb? It doesn't look as easier to find logs on Max Runtime for anything inside of jweb. Anything on this will be appreciated.

Hi there,

Is there a way to debug issues (for example: get console logs like we do in web browser) on jweb? It doesn't look as easier to...

how-to-debug-jweb-issues

How to debug jweb issues?

Shakeeb Alireza

Is there a way to obtain the configured External Editor from Max configuration via the c-api? If not is there a way to obtain it from the environment variable "EDITOR" via the c-api? I've tried the latter using 

Is there a way to obtain the configured External Editor from Max configuration via the c-api? If not is there a way to obtain it from the...

getting-provided-external-editor-from-max-configuration-using-c-api

Getting provided External Editor from Max Configuration using c-api

Hjalte Bested Møller

I'm writing some externals in c++ using the min framework. I want to make an external to be used in a Max4Live patch. The external will take a prompt as input and generate a composition as a responce. The composition should be based on the name of the tracks in the live arrangement (this will tell the model which instruments to write for). Next the score for each track will be placed in midi clips on the relevant tracks. 

I cannot find the information about how to interface the LOM directly from an external ?

How to access the Live Object Model from external in c++ using min

how-to-access-the-live-object-model-from-external-in-c-using-min

Joe Kaplan

I'd like to create a custom UI object that has multiple text edit fields.  

Context:  My externals connect to a cloud service to enable access to data from that cloud in Max.  In order to connect we need to gather user auth credentials.  I don't really want to use Max's standard textedit objects for this.  Because distributing patches that pass user's sensitive data trough patch chords seems like a bad idea.  I want to build a custom UI object user's can type into so masked  data remains at the code level and is never accessible in the patch itself.

 example in the Max SDK.  I can definitely use this as a starting point.  It will be easy to modify this to mask the data onstream, and pass the the user input to other objects using the notification system so it's never exposed in the patcher itself.   I could use 2 or more objects based on uitextfield to compose a bpatcher that will serve as my Authentication screen.

Problem:  It would be better for the Auth Screen to be a single Max object.  The default textfields are fairly nondescript.  If I distribute my patcher, a nefarious actor could swap out my custom textfields with some other textfields.  The auth screen would look unchanged, but the user has just typed their credentials into an illegitimate input field.

The Question:  I'm not seeing a way to include multiple textfields in a single object.  In fact, making an object a textfield seems to overwrite most of paint's other functions.  Is there a way to compose a UI objects from multiple component UI Objects?  Or a different way to get multiple textfields into my object?

I'm aware that instead of using textfields I could paint text directly and repaint based on the key methods.  But this results in some behaviour that don't feel natural (like being unable drag over and highlight the text).  I would like this auth solution to appear to be as seemless and native as possible.  

I know I've posted a number of similar threads on this topic.  Thanks to all for your input!

Greetings,


I'd like to create a custom UI object that has multiple text edit fields.  

Context:  My externals connect to a cloud service...

max-sdk-ui-object-with-multiple-textedit-fields

MAX SDK: UI Object with Multiple Textedit fields?

I'm working on a package of externals in MIN.  It's been going great.  But now I want to do a custom UI object.  Specifically a custom Textfield object.  Support for UI objects, and especially textfield objects, seems a bit limited in MIN.  And there's a readymade example in the Max SDK that would be easy to modify to do what I want.

With the recent changes to Max SDK to unify the build architecture, and since MIN Devkit includes Max SDK, I thought this would be easy to do.   But not only am I finding it not easy, I've been at it for several hours and I can't find a solution.

1)  Paste the contents of the the MaxSDK example into the a .cpp min object.  

The linter is okay with this.  But we have a problem that 	jpatcher_syms_init() is undefined. 

2)  Modify the project's CMakeLists.txt to include jpather_syms.c.  

Now the project will build.  But when I create an instance of the object in Max runtime the object is red.  No error, no debug, nothing.

3) Same as above, but replace the headers with #include c74_min.h, and add "using namespace c74::max;" at the top.

Got the same results.  Object builds, but appears red when used in Max runtime.

3) Try to generate the project as an actual Max SDK Project:

Copy max-sdk-base folder from the MaxSDK package into my package in the same location.

Copy the source code file and CMakeLists.txt from the MaxSDK example.

Try a few guesses on how to modify CmakeLists.txt in the package root to run the MaxSDK initialization scripts.

Same thing.  I can build the object.  But when I try to use it in Max, it's red.  No error message.

4) I tried several variations of the above, and also attempted to work with a non-UI object.

It all ends the same way.  I can build the object, but it is red in the Max runtime.

Has anybody done this before?  It seems like recent work on the Max SDK should make this explicitly supported.  I was quite surprised to run into difficulties here.

Any input would be much appreciated!  Thanks!

Hi everyone,

I'm working on a package of externals in MIN.  It's been going great.  But now I want to do a custom UI object.  Specifically...

how-to-include-max-sdk-objects-in-a-min-devkit-solution

How to include Max SDK Objects in a Min Devkit Solution?

Greetings! I'm trying to create a custom textfield object that will mask the user's input. Like when you type a password into an online form, and the input appears as "****".

I thought I would begin by trying to modify the 

example that comes with the Max SDK. I'm fairly proficient with MIN Devkit. But making the leap into the deep end of Max SDK is proving a bit difficult.

I found the following method in the code:

This appears to be the method that takes the key input, appends it to the string, and redraws the box with the new string. If I want to append a * instead of the character the user typed, this would seem to be the method to modify.

I tried messing around here, just adding some print statements, etc. But it looks like this method doesn't actually fire when a key is pressed. My print statements don't appear, any breakpoints in here don't trigger, and any changes I make don't seem to have any effect.

Can anyone help me understand what this method is doing? Or what other methods I should look to modify to achieve my goal?

I also, I notice throughout this code, the function object_method() is being called with descriptive gensyms like "insertboxtext" and "selectbox," etc. These seem to calling additional, seemingly undocumented, functions that are available to the object.

Where are these functions defined? And how can I learn more about what they are doing? 

Greetings!  I'm trying to create a custom textfield object that will mask the user's input. Like when you type a password into an online form, and the input appears as "****".

I thought I would begin by trying to modify the uitextfield example that comes with the Max SDK.  I'm fairly proficient with MIN Devkit.  But making the leap into the deep end of Max SDK is proving a bit difficult.

I found the following method in the code:


long uitextfield_key(t_uitextfield *x, t_object *patcherview, long keycode, long modifiers, long textcharacter)
{
	char buff[256];
	buff[0] = textcharacter;  // we know this is just a simple char
	buff[1] = 0;
	object_method(patcherview, gensym("insertboxtext"), x, buff);
	jbox_redraw((t_jbox *)x);return 1;
} 

This appears to be the method that takes the key input, appends it to the string, and redraws the box with the new string.  If I want to append a * instead of the character the user typed, this would seem to be the method to modify.

I tried messing around here, just adding some print statements, etc.  But it looks like this method doesn't actually fire when a key is pressed.  My print statements don't appear, any breakpoints in here don't trigger, and any changes I make don't seem to have any effect.

Can anyone help me understand what this method is doing?  Or what other methods I should look to modify to achieve my goal?


I also, I notice throughout this code, the function object_method() is being called with descriptive gensyms like "insertboxtext" and "selectbox," etc.  These seem to calling additional, seemingly undocumented, functions that are available to the object.

Where are these functions defined?  And how can I learn more about what they are doing?  

Thanks for any insights!

Greetings!  I'm trying to create a custom textfield object that will mask the user's input. 

how-does-jboxtextfield-work

This example is probably outdated, but you can utilize the keyfilter method for your needs, though I'm not really interessted to help with something that ends up as copy protection or something

Thanks 11OLSEN.  I was starting to notice something was up when I commented out the "key" method entirely and nothing changed.  Using "keyfilter" makes sense.  Since "keyfilter" triggers on keypress, I can use that to call "set" and make sure the textfield is displaying stars, meanwhile I can store the actual string in a private variable.


I had started thinking down that route, and stopped because it didn't feel like the intended usage.  But now that this approach has some sort of endorsement, I will pursue it.

This is not for copy protecting for anything in Max.  The package will be accessing cloud services, which requires user auth.  Creating and distributing Max patches that ask users to enter passwords into a stock [textedit] box and then passing sensitive data through patch chords seems like a bad thing to do.

I think you need to use the textcharacter that is also passed instead of the keycode (keycode may generate a different character in other countries keyb layouts ?)

Thanks for the tip!  I'm making good progress here at last.   

One other question:  What is the best way to convert the textcharacter long into a char so I can build my string and manage it?

From some brief investigation, it looks like there's nothing to do here, I can just append the textcharacter numbers directly to char array.   But this is assuming textcharacter is typical ASCII, which apparently keycode is not?



Yes, use these numbers as chars should work. Sorry can't help with min devkit. Never got into that and will not. That's just a layer on the C-Api which doesn't give the same deep level of access.  

And btw, seems like you need 2 textfields, name and password? Maybe don't use the textfield instead build a normal ui object and render 2 fields with paint method. User can click one of the fields to enter keys. 

Thanks!  I was thinking about going that route.  It would increase the complexity a bit for me.  But figuring out how to use the paint method might be a good exercise anyway.

But I'm arguing with myself about how much to invest, because whatever I do the solution will be suboptimal.  My package depends on a C++ library.  So all of my objects so far are built with MIN Devkit.  But MIN seems to have limited support for UI objects.    So I'm stuck with this jank where the UI Object (built with Max SDK) will always need to be deployed alongside a separate object that handles the business logic (built with Min).  (there are plenty of ways for the objects to share data without patch cords)  

If I could consolidate this to one Min Object I'd be more inclined to invest in a full-on UI object instead of the simpler solution of providing two textfields and building the rest of the UI in Max itself.


I know it's possible to call Max SDK functions in Min by putting the c74::max namespace in front of them.  In fact I can probably just call functions from jgraphics.h directly in the paint method of the Min Object.  (haven't tested this yet, but it seems possible in theory)

The place where I'm stuck is on how to enable the other necessary boxflags, especially JBOX_HILITE.  The example Min object (min.textslider),   only has a handful of flags enabled.  And these flags are enabled by the ui_operator class that all ui objects in MIN must inherit from.  Since the boxflags seem to be baked into the boilerplate for UI objects in Min, I don't know how I can add my own.

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