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Jarrett Confrey

I noticed that the Node.js version bundled with Max is 16.6.0

Node.js 16.x is scheduled for end of life on 2023-09-11

https://github.com/nodejs/release#release-schedule

https://nodejs.org/en/blog/announcements/nodejs16-eol

Node.js 18.x is the current Long Term Support version but goes into maintenance on 2023-10-18

Node.js 20.x is the current version and will become the new Long Term Support version on 2023-10-24

I realize that the node.script object has node_bin_path and npm_bin_path attributes I could use to update my version but I think it would make sense to update the version of node bundled with Max to 20.x

I noticed that the Node.js version bundled with Max is 16.6.0

Node.js 16.x is scheduled for end of life on 2023-09-11

https://github.com/nodejs/release#release-schedule
https://nodejs.org/en/blog/announcements/nodejs16-eol

Node.js 18.x is the current Long Term Support version but goes into maintenance on 2023-10-18

Node.js 20.x is the current version and will become the new Long Term Support version on 2023-10-24

I realize that the node.script object has node_bin_path and npm_bin_path attributes I could use to update my version but I think it would make sense to update the version of node bundled with Max to 20.x

I noticed that the Node.js version bundled with Max is 16.6.0

Node.js 16.x is scheduled for end of life on ... 

bundled-nodejs-version-end-of-life-on-2023-09-11

this is correct, I don’t have an ETA or too much detail right now but we’ll be looking into this for a future update alongside supporting modern module loading that is required by some npm packages. 

In the meantime we recommend using node_bin_path and npm_bin_path as suggested to change the version of node if required. 

Thank you 

Bundled Node.js Version End Of Life On 2023-09-11

Jeff Griffiths

, Max 8.5 ( the version embedded into Ableton Live 11 ) bundles nodejs 16.6, which has been unsupported and has not had any security updates since September 2023. If you intend to build applications in m4l that use node.script, you should be aware of two key issues that affect your ability to support Ableton Live 11 going forward:

1/ node ships with openssl, and the version 1.1.1 of openssl that ships with node 16.6 is no longer supported since Sept 2023. At the time I assume Max 8.6 development was the focus of the team so they decided not to update the embedded version of node in Max 8.5. 

If you use node inside Ableton for networked applications, your applications have known security vulnerabilities.

2/ when nodejs 16.6 was deprecated in Sept 2023, the npm ecosystem moved quickly to drop support for this version, quickly rendering many useful packages as incompatible with Live 11. You will quite often get errors like this:

npm ERR! code EBADENGINE
npm ERR! engine Unsupported engine
npm ERR! engine Not compatible with your version of node/npm: @sveltejs/kit@2.5.17
npm ERR! notsup Not compatible with your version of node/npm: @sveltejs/kit@2.5.17
npm ERR! notsup Required: {"node":">=18.13"}
npm ERR! notsup Actual:   {"npm":"7.20.3","node":"v16.6.2"}

I contacted cycling '74 support directly and they clarified that they have no plans to update the node version in Max 8.5. They suggested I upgrade to Live 12 to benefit from Max 8.6 and node 20, which I will probably do, because my project is focused on directly embedding web servers and apps inside max for live. If you are working on similar projects, 

you should probably only support Max 8.6 going forward

. This also means dropping support for Ableton Live 11 users, which I had hoped to avoid.

I am concerned that c74 didn't move to update Max 8.5 in Sept 2023 though - at the time Max 8.5 and Live 11 did not have newer versions available and they continued to ship and sell Max and Live with a deprecated version of node with known security issues.  They were notified immediately of the issue but waited instead for the release of Live 12 and Max 8.6. Nodejs 20 will continue to be 

As discussed in another post, Max 8.5 ( the version embedded into Ableton Live 11 ) bundles nodejs 16.6, which has been unsupported and has...

psa-using-nodescript-in-live-11-should-be-avoided-especially-for-networked-applications

PSA: using node.script in Max 8.5 and  Live 11 should be avoided, especially for networked applications

Felon

I have an issue on a new Windows computer that I am setting up for a patch that works perfectly on another machine. When I try to use some basic NodeJS communication with the PC (through child- process), I have an error message sayin' that the script (or the program ?) doesn't have the right access: it lacks privileges. 

//--------------------------------- PING ------------------------------------

maxApi.addHandler('ping_out', function() //

var exec = require('child_process').exec;

exec("ping -c 1 localhost", function(err, stdout, stderr) {

//------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The node.js debug tool says (in french) => "Access Denied, option -c requires admin privileges". 

I installed everything like before, with normal Max settings. I didn't encounter this issue with other computers.

Sorry if it's a really simple thing to solve, but maybe other users will have to deal with that.

Hello team,

I have an issue on a new Windows computer that I am setting up for a patch that works perfectly on another machine. When I try...

how-to-give-nodejs-scripts-admin-privileges

How to give NodeJS scripts admin privileges ?

woyteg

long time max user, experienced python user and novice in java script here.

I seem to experience some kind of memory leak when repeatedly accessing a dict through js. The attached patch tries to replicate my issue with minimal code. In reality i am building some sort of sequencer and dont plan to query the js object every millisecond but this seems to replicate/isolate the issue nicely.

Hope some of you find my mistake obvious and its not an actual bug. 

outlets = 1
var dict = new Dict('testing');
keys = dict.getkeys();
function bang(){
	keys = dict.getkeys();
	foo = dict.get(keys[0]);
	outlet(0,foo);
	return
}

{
	"test" : [ 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 ],
	"test2" : [ 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4 ]
}


Hi,

long time max user, experienced python user and novice in java script here.

I seem to experience some kind of memory leak when...

memory-leak-when-accessing-dict

Memory leak when accessing dict

Robert Rapp

Hello, I am currently work with rnbo.js to develop a small webapplication. 

I create two audio elements and use them as AudioElementMediaSourceNode to connect it to the RNBO Patch. 

In my lifecycle hook of my Vue component I call within the beforeMounted function the createDevice of the rnbo lib and then I heard the first time a glitch. After couple of seconds I can recognize another glitch in the audio. 

Is this an known Issue? And if yes is there a possibilty to avoid the glitching while creating the RNBO Device? 

Hello, I am currently work with rnbo.js to develop a small webapplication. 


I create two audio elements and use them as...

audio-glitches-right-in-the-beginning-every-time-i-create-a-rnbo-device

Audio glitches right in the beginning every time I create a rnbo device

I have a simpler select option dropdown HTLM element from a site on jweb. But the Max Application crashes when the dropdown menu is clicked on some of the PCs. Can someone please let me know if there is a way to fix it? The app is built for Windows.

Hi there,

I have a simpler select option dropdown HTLM element from a site on jweb. But the Max Application crashes when the dropdown menu...

basic-lessselectgreater-option-from-web-on-jweb-crashes-max-application-862

Basic <select> option from web on jweb crashes Max Application

Jared Bennett

I'm trying to make a super simple js script in Max to make an 

 object of variable length depending on the list input to the js object. I've done some js things before in Max (and not in Max!) and feel relatively secure with in, so either I'm missing something super obvious or something doesn't work in a logical way!

unp = this.patcher.newdefault(1000, 1000, "unpack", 0 0 0);
unp = this.patcher.newdefault(1000, 1000, "unpack", "0 0 0");
unp = this.patcher.newdefault(1000, 1000, "unpack", "0&nbsp0&nbsp0");

However, the first option throws an error (js: autounpack.js: Javascript SyntaxError: missing ) after argument list, line 14), and the second and third options reproduce exactly what is written including the quote marks, which means the unpack object is created with only one outlet (and isn't super useful!). I've also tried this with the 

If anyone could tell me what I'm missing so I can stop banging my head against a brick wall that would be amazing!

Hi everyone,

I'm trying to make a super simple js script in Max to make an unpack object of variable length depending on the list input to...

newdefault-argument-issues

newdefault argument issues

hal bay

There is a crash bug with %100 reproducibility. Any Max4Live device with jweb (Chromium Embedded Framework) in them, if initiliazed at launch, for example while opening a recent set, will cause ableton main thread to crash with the stacktrace below. If the device is loaded on a track after ableton is initialized, they don't cause crash. you can try this open source device, 

, for quick reproduction; or make a new Max4Live device with jweb in it and save with it on any track and close/open that set afterwards, and smile at your crash :}

Version: 11.3.3 (2023-05-23_d46a6d1068) (11.3.3 (2023-05-23_d46a6d1068))

Date/Time: 2023-11-28 03:27:32.4749 +0100

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