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Brodie Matthews

Hi, is it possible to accum a list with gen? i found this 

 but its not clear me how the data is being stored.I understand how to recall data from buffer but im interested to understand more codebox language. Thanks

Hi, is it possible to accum a list with gen? i found this example but its not clear me how the data is being stored.I understand how to recall data from buffer but im interested to understand more codebox language. Thanks

Hi, is it possible to accum a list with gen? i found this example but its not clear me how the data is being stored.I understand how to reca

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in that example you linked to, Emmanuel does it, and instead of buffer he's using the 'Data' op(it's exactly like buffer, but has no object reference external to gen~ like buffer~), both are basically just arrays storing values.

he instantiates the 'Data' op in this line of his codebox:

sample-by-sample, his code makes this basic comparison:

when the count has reached the last sample of the list/vector(by equaling the 'vectorsize'), it runs this code to poll('peek') the entire accumulated list/vector and sum it up:

(which all happens within one sample so be careful how big of a list/array you use)

in that example you linked to, Emmanuel does it, and instead of buffer he's using the 'Data' op(it's exactly like buffer, but has no object reference external to gen~ like buffer~), both are basically just arrays storing values.
he instantiates the 'Data' op in this line of his codebox:

if (count < VECTORSIZE) { ...... } else { ...... }

for (i = 0; i < VECTORSIZE; i += 1) { sum += d.peek(i); }

Thanks 👽R △ j△👽, if i understand in the example gen outputs the sum of the current vector and the accumulated values, can the values be referenced similar to buffer? and could i use random and bang a list in or does it only uses a stream of values? i think the thing i was most confused by was .poke and .peek? is .poke simlar to .push in js?

Thanks 👽R △ j△👽, if i understand in the example gen outputs the sum of the current vector and the accumulated values, can the values be referenced similar to buffer? and could i use random and bang a list in or does it only uses a stream of values? i think the thing i was most confused by was .poke and .peek?  is .poke simlar to .push in js?

ya, exactly. within gen~, data and buffer are exactly the same, you store 64-bit audio samples within their storage-array. the only difference is you can't reference data's memory from outside gen~ whereas with buffer you can. once you instantiate data(just like buffer), you can read/write from it from any of the gen ops which read/write.

you could say that .poke is similar to .push in js because they both store values in an array, but .push pushes values onto the end of the array, whereas .poke allows you to poke anywhere into the array and write a value in at that index position.

but basically, if you're talking about a 'list' from the outside Max world coming into gen~, you basically can, but you need to think of each element in a list as residing on a separate 'channel'(and if you want to take random values from Max world into gen~ you'll probably be using buffer~ to reference from within gen~... so with Emmanuel's code, it can work the same simply by swapping out data with buffer).

in gen~, i can't think of a way to fill a buffer/data op all at once with random values, you'd have to stream them from a noise generator within gen~, but outside gen~, you can use uzi to fill a buffer~ with random values all at once, then reference those values faster than sample-rate within gen~ all-at-once(using for-loop the way Emmanuel did in his code).

hope that all makes sense(it's confusing because the word 'list' can mean many different things in different environs... and also because, while you can handle many values within the timing of a single sample at sample-rate(iterating through them really fast using a for-loop), you can't tell the generator ops within gen~ to generate values faster than sample-rate in the same way... at least not as far as i know... i've never actually tried within a for loop, but since they're audio-rate generators seems unlikely).

can the values be referenced similar to buffer?

ya, exactly. within gen~, data and buffer are exactly the same, you store 64-bit audio samples within their storage-array. the only difference is you can't reference data's memory from outside gen~ whereas with buffer you can. once you instantiate data(just like buffer), you can read/write from it from any of the gen ops which read/write.
you could say that .poke is similar to .push in js because they both store values in an array, but .push pushes values onto the end of the array, whereas .poke allows you to poke anywhere into the array and write a value in at that index position.

and could i use random and bang a list in or does it only uses a stream of values?

but basically, if you're talking about a 'list' from the outside Max world coming into gen~, you basically can, but you need to think of each element in a list as residing on a separate 'channel'(and if you want to take random values from Max world into gen~ you'll probably be using buffer~ to reference from within gen~... so with Emmanuel's code, it can work the same simply by swapping out data with buffer).
in gen~, i can't think of a way to fill a buffer/data op all at once with random values, you'd have to stream them from a noise generator within gen~, but outside gen~, you can use uzi to fill a buffer~ with random values all at once, then reference those values faster than sample-rate within gen~ all-at-once(using for-loop the way Emmanuel did in his code).
hope that all makes sense(it's confusing because the word 'list' can mean many different things in different environs... and also because, while you can handle many values within the timing of a single sample at sample-rate(iterating through them really fast using a for-loop), you can't tell the generator ops within gen~ to generate values faster than sample-rate in the same way... at least not as far as i know... i've never actually tried within a for loop, but since they're audio-rate generators seems unlikely).


That sounds awesome, thanks for explaining. Im a complete noob coder but its definitely interesting hearing more about gen & codebox and all the possibilitys,it seems like gen codebox is entirely its own language.I get excited finding stuff like this digging through the forum.Thanks again 👽R △ j△👽.

Accum list with Gen