How can I figure out the parent patcher when n a sub patcher

Ullstein's icon

typical case: I have several send-objects in several sub- or even sub-sub-patchers. Now I have to find one of these send-objects, so I right-click on the receive-object, I see the list of all send/receive-objects, so I click on one and its sub-patcher opens. How can I find out in which parent-patcher this sub-patcher is located?
thanks for advice

Roman Thilenius's icon


hm..... no.

Ullstein's icon

Would this be considered to be a bug? Or at least a seriously missing item? Since Max can find and list them, it is known where they are, so it should be easy to list them with a "Patcher"-path, no?

Bradley Korth's icon

I wonder if the problem could be fixed by limiting how many [send] and [receive] objects you're using. Using too many is generally confusing anyway. If data needs to be sent synchronously, you could [pack] or [join] it before sending, for example.

Roman Thilenius's icon

if i would be the max.app i would ask you why you need to know which is which.

what is it good for to know which menu item corresponds with which instance?

currently all the menu does is opening the patcher window in question and i would not know how to highlight the individual external.

Ullstein's icon

Hi Roman Thilenius.
Imagine this scenario: it is a complex (OK), it has several subpatches some of them have sub-subpatches which have a direct cable connection to the parent but inside the sub-subpatcher is a send and the signal from the parent gets mixed with something in the sub-subpatcher. Now if the feed from the parent sends a signal that turns out to be a problem, you need to find it, in that situation you need know in which patcher the subpatcher is located. If the are many subpatchers it becomes difficult to remember where the signle one is located.
If I would be the max.app, I would know where the subpatcher is, since otherwise I could not work at all, so it is only to allow this info to go to the user as well.
Thanks for taking care and
all the best
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OCH's icon

Maybe I didn't understand it correctly, but I think the OP is a very common problem.
What do I do? When I am inside such unknown subsubsubpatcher I just double click the inlet box (or outlet box) and see what comes up - it should be its parent patcher. Apologies if I missed the point here.

Best

Ullstein's icon

OCH, Thanks you, great and such a simple solution. That's exactly what I was looking for. VERY helpful.

Many thanks and have a good day, HPK