I am not able to use a max4live device (midi sequencer) anymore in Ableton 10 / Max8
Hey guys, my first post, i am just a musician that used max4live devices but never edited or had any experiance with it.
I used a lot this sequencer, that its controllable with Lemur on ipad
its free and public but unfortunately the developer was impossible to be found for a few years now
i used this in ableton 9 with max 6 but now on ableton 10 with max 8 I get those messages, its about the osc externals and obviously is not working
i tried to install the new CNMAT Externals in many ways but no luck, message you see on the pic say osc-route is the problem, for sure is related to the 32 bit vs 64 bit incompatibility
so my question is, do you think is possible to make this device come to life?
if so, a simple installation of the externals will make it work or the device need to be modified or made form scratch?
looking forward to your kindly advices / solutions
thank you so much :)
george
Hi, I think the Octane sequencer looks very interesting. Would love to try to make it work. Can you send it to me? @ christiankjaerjensen@gmail.com
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Christian sorry for my really late reply :) more than one year but even so I sent you an email with the device maybe you can do something about it :) thank you, George
OSC-route is included in last CNMAT package, it should work !?
then that lemur loader external is not really needed, or ?
you simply type IP / ports that Lemur uses, and off you go.
OSC messages can also be routed without cnmat external and java script
using vanilla max objects.
hey there thanks for your reply, unfortunately is still not working and I am not that technical to solve it...
can I upload you the device and try for yourself? thanks
even further, on my OSX Mojave with Ableton 11.3.4 when loading the device I get the message:
"hps-octane.amxd contains externals that are not compatible with this architecture. Consider running Live on a different architecture"
Is still not working after doing what ?
did you replace old OSC externals ?
I can fix that for you, but you need to provide infos bout which system you need it for, and what your device IP and UDP ports are.
Is this thing designed to work only with lemur ?
I am afraid I don/t know how to do it, it is possible to get a direct email from you and take it from there pls? thank you so much :)
my email is: george_monochrome at me com
just tell me what IP and udp ports you need to use.
192.168.0.206.
but don/t know what ports number to use honestly, we can chose arbritary?
i put the ipad to charge to see the value remained into the lemur app, it was really long time ago
I will make ports and IP address adjustable, 3 values I want to have as default values.
is IP 192.168.0.206 for the lemur ?
I do not need your mac IP, it does not matter,
it is lemur ip that is needed.
in that device fixed Out Port is 8000, In Port
defaults to 8050, but it is adjustable, and ip gets scannd by that
lemurloader external, which is outdated.
There are also errors in java script , but that is another trouble ...
these are the settings from my lemur ipad app:
Lemur IP is 192.168.0.101.8000
OSC host: 192.168.0.45 port 8050
uauu you are so great thank you :) <3 I will check as soon as i get home!
also I don't want to profit from your kindness but can you please see this topic as well about this device, again I feel all things are there but it is about a small twick, again developer is gone:
thank you
I had a short look.
no wonder Ollsen does not want to update it.
Sorry, but it is too messy and doing too many things,
live databases, etc etc.
it crashed immediately in max 8.3 and 8.5
you will have to look for different sample player I am afraid.
thank you are really greta for your fast answers on this too, unfortunately is the only device that playing random samples from particular folders, the thing is is working and make the selection and randomisation but the samples are not played right, maybe is something related to how the sampler player is working in newer MAX versions, all the functionalities are intact
coming to Octane I did the test and it can send the info to the Lemur in Ipad and see the changes in realtime on Ipad but when using the controls of the lemur to change the device in Ableton there is no change on the device is self
what messages are sent and what should they do ?
are you receiving anything from lemur?
you must unlock device and insert print or something to check
nothing back from Lemur just from ableton device to Lemur, so if i hover the mouse over the device and chnage the velocties for example I see those changes done in realtime on the ipad, but the reverse nothing, i can chnage the ports there and tried a few times but no results
they need to send active sequencer steps, pitch values on steps, velocities, durations of the notes repeats
anyway clearly is a good sign, before it didn't worked in eather way
yeah and now ovbiously no red error messages thats good
CNMAT Externals v1.0.5-0-g2626bdfb, compiled Fri Apr 22 12:53:49 PDT 2022
OSC-route by Matt Wright, Michael Zbyszynski.
Copyright (c) 1999,2000-08,13 Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
udpreceiver: binding to port 8050
udpreceiver: binding to port 8050
udpreceiver: binding to port 8002
udpreceiver: binding to port 8050
udpreceiver: binding to port 8050
udpreceiver: binding to port 8002
these are messages from the MAX console but they are not red with errors
"you must unlock device and insert print or something to check" you mean in to the max4live device or lemur?
udpreceiver: binding to port 8050
udpreceiver: binding to port 8002
that is strange, udpreceive should not change port ?
you must leave it as it is set in lemur,
you said it is 8050
use this one, it has osc messages monitor
I meant to insert print object right at udpreceive
you can remove it when osc messages get confirmed to get in.
i tried v3 and the same
look at the lemu setting maybe i am doing something wrong, i can change the ports in here how i want but don't know what which s doing:
https://we.tl/t-MLUxQIxcq1
you have to pics with me changing that, one with 8001 and one with 8050
look at here: https://modwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67544 at the videos
it is possible to be using 2 ips? one for sending andfone for receiveing some how?
maybe i need to install something else in my computer?
sorry, I am out till tomorrow.
you send from lemur to IP address and port of your mac.
and same the other way arround
ok thank you for time have a great evening!
ps: I tried with the same ip and port but no luck
I finally did it is working, I was complicating my way of thinking, thank you again for your kindness <3
ok, finally ...
while I am at it, I will remove OSC externals, so that device will be
free to use in any Live version or platform.
I will upload it here when done
amazing, thank you thats really great, it was a pity for people not to use this great sequencer
thank you again, I tested this one as well and is working good
have a great evening
ps: one thing I found that is not working, the sequencer has two "Control" lanes where you can input a Midi CC number value to each line to control a midi synth parameters and it seems is working just the first lane, the second one it is not transmitting any midi CC values, can you please check if there is any simple fix to this, thank you so much
i mean in both versions with or without osc
I did not touch anything that deals with midi, sequencer or any other thing,
only replaced OSC parsing.
if that 2nd midi lane worked in previous version, it must be still working,
I am not using Live, and so can not test this really
ok great thank you so much!