Max 8, Max for Live and gen runtime

    Feb 23 2018 | 9:52 pm
    Very nooby question, but couldn't find answers:
    Why is Gen in my fully authorized Live 10 in runtime mode? How do I solve this? Cause I would like to continue developing patches containing Gen. Or do I need to reinstall Live 9 to do this?
    Max itself tells me to 'get a full gen licence' but redirects me to a cycling74 page where I can do no such thing.
    also - did I miss a FAQ where these things are explained?

    • Feb 24 2018 | 12:49 pm
      Thanks Andrew!
    • Feb 25 2018 | 9:22 pm
      Hello! I too am having this issue among others with my M4L program. Should we have waited until Max 8 was out to purchase Live 10?
    • Feb 26 2018 | 8:14 pm
      Hi all,
      Just to clarify, we will have a fix for Gen editing, for those who have a Max 7 license and are using Live 10. This will be available in an upcoming version of Live in the very near future. Although a cumbersome workaround, for now you should still be able to use Max 7 to edit Gen patchers.
      Thanks for your patience! Ben
    • Feb 26 2018 | 9:15 pm
      When can we expect a fully working version of Max to be bundled into Live? "Max technology is now fully integrated into Live 10 Suite."
    • Feb 26 2018 | 9:24 pm
      @MELLON I don't have a timetable for this fix, but it will be sooner than later.
      Although Max technology is now bundled in Live, there may continue to be differences in the version that is bundled versus the standalone Max app.
    • May 01 2018 | 9:33 am
      Hi Ben,
      Is this fix already available? If not, when will it be available? Thanks
    • Oct 03 2018 | 8:36 pm
      Hi I'm brand new to Max for Live and I'm also having this problem. I don't know if I'm trying to edit a gen~ plugin - is there a way to tell? Will I actually see gen~ somewhere? I'm trying to fix a bug in the Pluggo Stutterer effect and Max For Live both says it's authorised (when I try to authorise it) and that it's not because saving is disabled with the message that I must authorise it to enable saving. Assuming this isn't a gen~ device, is there a known cause of this problem? I'm using Windows 10 Home, loading the editor using the edit button on the device in Live. Thanks Craig
    • Oct 04 2018 | 4:32 pm
      Hi Craig,
      You can tell you are in gen~ because you have to double-click a gen~ object to edit the contents. You'll also see a different set of toolbar options on the bottom and left. As for the issue you are having with saving, send us an email in support ( and we'll help you get sorted. Best, Cory
    • Apr 18 2019 | 1:39 pm
      Has the ability of creating and editing gen patches been implemented into Live 10 / Max for Live yet? I'm on the fence on whether or not I want to purchase Live and this would be an important factor for me. Thanks!
    • Apr 18 2019 | 4:57 pm
      It is still the case that Live Suite owners need to crossgrade to the standalone version of Max in order to create or edit gen~.
    • Apr 18 2019 | 5:18 pm
      Thanks for the quick reply! Is it something that will eventually be available in Max for Live? or are there no plans for it in Live 10?
    • Apr 19 2019 | 3:07 pm
      You're welcome! There are no plans to change it at this time. If you want to create or edit gen~ in Max for Live, you'll need to crossgrade to a standalone license.
    • Mar 24 2020 | 1:52 am
      So I just updated to Max 8.1.3 and opened a patch that a friend sent my way and at the top of the gen patcher window it says "Currently in runtime mode. Get a full license at [etc]."
      If I have a full licence for Max, do I need a separate licence for Gen? Is this a bug? I also have Ableton Live 10 suite that I crossgraded from 9 standard, would that have messed up my Max 8 license?
    • Mar 24 2020 | 9:30 am
      Maybe you're using the bundled Max app in Live. Try opening Live Preferences, go to the "File Folder" tab and browse to your standalone Max.
    • Mar 25 2020 | 2:51 am
      I am thinking I should just contact support.
    • Mar 25 2020 | 4:36 am
      As Lska says, I would first check to see whether the version of Max that is being used when you're in Live is the bundled version (which does not support editing gen~ stuff) or your upgraded version. You'll need to check the Live application preferences, as LSKA suggests.
    • Mar 25 2020 | 7:49 am
      How would I check? I downloaded the Max 8.1.3 disk image and installed that by dragging it into the app folder after putting 8.0.5 into the trash folder. Then I right-clicked to open 8.1.3 from the app folder. Would that still possibly be Max 4 live?
    • Mar 25 2020 | 9:46 am
      Yes, if you have problems even with the standalone Max, you should contact support.
    • Mar 26 2020 | 9:21 pm
      Thank you for the reply, I appreciate the effort.