Raphael Jeanne

I 'd like to be able to send Program Changes just by highlighting a Scene Name. (without triggering any clip).

Ex: I select the scene 1. Scene 1 sends PC 3 (channel 4) to an external synth and PC 5 (channel 10) to another one. My synths are monitoring the good preset. Then I hit play on Ableton.

It works well on MPC, and it's very useful to send those kind of messages without starting any clock.....

I've tried many ways to achieve this (ClyphX, midi macros) but I failed everytime, and obviously the best way is to program a patch in Max. (or maybe a User Action in python code!) :/

The big problem is : I'm new to this software and I don't understand anything !!!! 

Hello !

I 'd like to be able to send Program Changes just by highlighting a Scene Name. (without triggering any clip).
Ex:  I select the scene 1. Scene 1 sends PC 3 (channel 4) to an external  synth and PC 5 (channel 10) to another one. My synths are monitoring the  good preset. Then I hit play on Ableton.

It  works well on MPC, and it's very useful to send those kind of messages  without starting any clock..... 

I've tried many ways to achieve this (ClyphX, midi macros) but I failed everytime, and  obviously the best way is to program a patch in Max. (or maybe a User Action in python code!) :/

The big problem is : I'm new to this software and I don't understand anything !!!! 

If someone can help me ... !

Thanks !!!!!!

Hello !

I 'd like to be able to send Program Changes just by highlighting a Scene Name. (without triggering any clip).
Ex:  I select the sc

mpc-like-program-changes-in-ableton

It can be done with M4L (midi effect device).

Here is a basic patch that gives you the name of the selected scene.

It can be done with M4L (midi effect device).
Here is a basic patch that gives you the name of the selected scene.


I've tried to paste from clipboard into a new Max project but how can I integrate it to Live? The shortcut to export it as a Max4Live device is not available ... :/

In Live open an empty Max MIDI effect and paste the patch.

Hello Broc, I've tried to paste it in a max midi effect but nothing happens.... :S

I saw the patch "fire selected clip" in the Live abstractions menu and it gave me an idea : why not triggering only a few dummy clips to send the PC just by highlighting them: but there's another problem...

Is there a script "select=bang" or "highlight=play" or that kind of message ? I really want to avoid the manual trigger...

Hello Broc, I've tried to paste it in a max midi effect but nothing happens.... :S

I saw the patch "fire selected clip" in the Live abstractions menu and it gave me an idea : why not triggering only a few dummy clips to send the PC just by highlighting them: but there's another problem...
Is there a script  "select=bang" or  "highlight=play" or that kind of message ? I really want to avoid the manual trigger...

Thanks !
btw, I keep practicing on Max :S

Well, my patch was only the main part of a solution.

But here is an example of the completed patch.

Well, my patch was only the main part of a solution.
But here is an example of the completed patch.


(by the way good tutorial to understand how it works)

I tried to make a blend of the abstraction "fire selected clip" and your patch in order to get the clip name (depending of the scene) and convert it into a program change message but I cannot manage to make it work :/

I think you need to remove 'view' from the path message.

Thx! Works ! I already tried without the "view" in the past but I actually figured out that it needs a button to trigger the patch (i guess to get access to the lists). 

Is there a function to automatically get the access?

Thx! Works ! I already tried without the "view" in the past but I actually figured out that it needs a button to trigger the patch (i guess to get access to the lists). 
Is there a function to automatically get the access?

I mean just by selecting my scene trigger the patch ? 

(it works well if I assign two buttons : one with the same mapping than my shortcut "next scene" and the second with the "previous scene" mapping but it's quite messy).

I mean just by selecting my scene trigger the patch ? 
(it works well if I assign two buttons : one with the same mapping than my shortcut "next scene" and the second with the "previous scene" mapping but it's quite messy).

Look at my previous patch. It triggers just by selecting the scene. You could do something similar for selecting the track and use both in combination.

What exactly is the ideal intended usage and behaviour?

I know it's very messy (ahah) but I finally made this patch and it works perfectly (the way I wish) except when there's a folded group track on the left of each track there's this device put it on. (even when I patch "live.path" in "follows path" and not "follows bject") I don't understand why (maybe an ID problem) but I can't find a solution. When I unfold the group track it works then...

I know it's very messy (ahah) but I finally made this patch and it works perfectly (the way I wish) except when there's a folded group track on the left of each track there's this device put it on. (even when I patch "live.path" in "follows path" and not "follows bject")  I don't understand why (maybe an ID problem) but I can't find a solution. When I unfold the group track it works then...

I'm glad it basically works for you. The group track problem may happen because the visible_tracks index changes if a group on the left is folded or unfolded. Not sure how to solve except replacing visible_tracks by tracks.

MPC LIKE PROGRAM CHANGES IN ABLETON