PC Zoom support

James Daniels's icon

While I absolutely love that the editor and help windows allow you to zoom in and out using "CTRL=" and "CTRL-," I have noticed that there is no support for navigating left to right when pressing down on the scroll wheel like there is in most other programs, browsers, etc. (the little four arrow crosshairs inside the circle that allow mouse movements to pan around the zoom area -- both up and down *AND* left to right. Yes, I am aware that the scroll wheel will move up and down when zoomed in, but there is no navigation for left to right. At least not on PC.)

The reason I think this is necessary is because zooming in is critical on todays HD screens, and makes learning and working with Max a complete joy. The "navigate zoom" is pretty much what I want, and would like to be able to access such a function without having to click on the menu bar. It's a shame that there are key commands for zoom in, zoom out, and view 100%, and then the one thing that doesn't have an assigned key command is the "Navigate Zoom" function!!! ARGH!!

Okay, it's not that frustrating. But it would be nice. It makes editing and navigating things much faster and easier when you want/need to do fine work, or would like to zoom in on specific areas even faster. Again, going back to the navigate zoom, it would be great if the small navigation selection tool could be toggled on/off, and remain active when working in the editor. When you click away from the screen where you are working, the tool disappears, and you have to re-open it from the drop down menu.

If I'm missing something, or there is a way to enable this via a custom key command, please let me know. I'm just looking for a *little* bit more functionality with zooming in/out. Thanks everybody!

vichug's icon

did you try shift+mousescroll ? that's how we navigate left to right on Mac

Pedro Santos's icon

Hi, James. My thoughts exactly! And the fact that it immediately disappears is even more infuriating...

But I would go a little further:
The other day, I was working in Photoshop and Illustrator for a while and, after finishing, I launched Max. Since it's a big patch, I suddenly found myself trying to use Adobe's Hand tool to navigate the patch. In Photoshop/Illustrator/Acrobat if you temporarily press space and click/drag on the image you can easily scroll it horizontally and vertically, like you do with a touch based device... Wouldn't it be useful to have a similar implementation in Max?

James Daniels's icon

Shift+mousescroll on Mac = Ctrl+scrollwheel on PC. That function is also mysteriously absent from the Max editor window on PC. The PC method works in every other program where Zoom is available. Photoshop, web browsers, picture viewers, word processors, etc. I believe you can also Command+"=/+" on a Mac, the same as you can on PC. Ctrl+"=/+" on PC works fine in Max for Live, but it only zooms into the center of a screen, not an area of interest. If you're modules are all in the upper left hand portion of the screen (as are most of the factory bundled creations), Ctrl+= will miss the intended zoom area since you can't center things that are in the very top left edge of the program without using the Zoom Navigation tool. I just wanted a little tigher zoom integration so that I can move around the editor screen easily. It seems like they planned to have that feature, and someone left a piece of code out.

The things you can't do is click the scrollwheel and get the "Target Arrow" circle that lets you pan up/down/left/right as you move the mouse. There is also no shortcut key command for "navigate zoom," and the zoom navigation tool disappears if you unfocus (click outside of) the edit window. It's kind of frustrating when you need to zoom in and out regularly.

Yes Pedro, you see what I'm getting at! A hand tool would do pretty much what I'm trying to describe. It's just a small feature that I think someone either missed, or just left out of the PC version. Really nitpicky, but in the grand scheme of building complex patches, solid zoom integration works wonders for getting in and out of dense areas quickly.