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Mariano Sibilia

I’m working on this patch (below) where I want to randomise the current values of a multislider using an integer to set the deviation percentage (0% = no deviation, 100% = full-range deviation). The multislider’s range is variable (min 0, max adjustable). The patch I’ve attached is working okay, but the issue is that the values tend to drop to 0 and stop moving. I think it might be a float vs. integer issue...

Deviation works fine when the multislider range is set to 

 (floating-point), but if I change the range, I need to rescale the deviation percentage. For example, if the multislider 

, 100% deviation currently creates values from 

 (and say i have value 5 to randomise 100% the other values are <5, instead of ±5).

I also tried another way using prepend range to random, but noticed that with other max versions i get the message that "random doesn't understand range"...

Any ideas on how to make the deviation percentage proportional to the variable range 

Hey everyone,

I’m working on this patch (below) where I want to randomise the current values of a multislider using an integer to set the...

random-value-deviation-factor

Not sure I understand entirely what you want, but here is my interpretation of it:

I could use the recent @range attribute of random but did not as you seem to use older versions of Max.

I scale the value of random from 0 - 2000 to -1.  - +1.

then I multiply the result by maxvalue and the deviation factor

and finally I add this to the previous value of the slider.

@TFL That seems about it! The explanation makes sense. Not sure why my patch kept sending values to 0 after several bangs to random though. Thanks so much!!

It sounds like you're facing a common challenge when working with ranges and deviations in Max/MSP or similar environments. The key here is to rescale your deviation percentage based on the multislider’s dynamic range. Instead of applying the 100% deviation directly as a fixed value, you could first calculate the total range (max - min) and then scale the deviation based on that range. This would prevent values from clustering at 0 when the range is adjusted.

One approach could be to use a combination of math objects like 

 to apply the rescaling, something like this:

This way, if you change the range (like from 0 to 5), the deviation will be proportional, and the random values won't fall outside the expected boundaries.

For more insights on working with these kinds of technical setups and maximizing the performance of your projects, 

 is a great resource. They specialize in helping users optimize their workflows and share knowledge about creative tech solutions. Check out their site for tips, tutorials, and more!

sorry back to this again. @TFL approach is good with 4 sliders but was wondering how could this work with variable sliders count? say from 2 up to 500...

It's a bit finicky when you change the number of sliders though.

By default, zl objects handle up to lists of lenght 256. I've raised that size up to 500, but you'll need to change that if you want to go beyond 500.

Random Value + Deviation Factor