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I am not sure if this is possible but I was wondering if Ableton can send data to Max standalone with some message protocol (touchosc?), without using M4L.

The reason why I am asking this is because I would like to integrate some Jitter visualization insides my Live set and it is common opinion that M4L is quite unstable with Jitter. So could be a viable approach to keep them separated and sending control messages from Ableton to Max (like midi/automations to control some parameters on the Max patch)? For sending audio I guess is more complicated then sending midi messages?

I am talking about having Ableton and Max running and communicating (Ableton -> Max, no need for the other way around) on the same machine, without using M4L.

Hi guys,

I am not sure if this is possible but I was wondering if Ableton can send data to Max standalone with some message protocol...

sending-control-messagesaudio-from-ableton-to-max-standalone-instead-of-using-m4l

Why should m4live device affect jitter performance in Max Standalone

midi from live ... ok there are some latency reports, but OSC  ?

If you use automated CC# or note messages from live

to trigger stuff in max, one could measure latency and

It depends what exactly you need to control.

Only triggers or full automated ramps  which need to be

or oscillators which get triggered  by tempo - time events ?

OSC is usually used to communicate in network, or when midi has limitations, 

like on windows, or when more separated control lanes are needed and so multichannel midi output from live track.

If I remember correctly, you use Mac - Intel max version.

IAC Buss or "to Max "  midi pipe works fine for inter-midi

I was not referring to latency but to the overall stability of M4L when using Jitter. I heard some people stating that Jitter is better to use with Max standalone that inside M4L, that's why I was asking this. I have just started learning Jitter so I don't have real world experience yet

Use M4l device / devices and send udp messages to control the external jitter patch might be a good solution.

Sending control messages/audio from Ableton to Max standalone instead of using M4L