Standalone Mac permissions launch problem

jb@bmbcon.demon.nl

Jan 22 2022 | 2:28 pm

Hi there, I have a Mac standalone made with Max 8.2.0 which uses an audio input (actually from loopback) and an external USB camera (to trigger things).

It's working fine. But as it needs to run for a long time (months) in an installation, I would like to launch it automatically when the computer starts up (as a Login item). This works, but during the startup process, dialog boxes appear asking for permission for "... MSP to capture audio from the microphone." and to "Allow Jitter to capture video". Which need to be clicked on. I thought that the computer (mac mini running 10.13.4) would learn that it's ok for the app to do this (it appears in and stays in the relevant lists in the Security control panel). but these dialogs appear EVERY TIME.

Launching the standalone app on my laptop (OS 12.1) displays the same behaviour, so I don't think it's just an OS thing.

I've done this kind of thing before and can't remember ever having this problem.

can anyone help?

very best wishes, Justin

tdc
Jan 28 2022 | 2:50 am
Interested in resolving this permissions issue also.
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jb@bmbcon.demon.nl
Jan 28 2022 | 8:41 am
Actually I'm talking to support about it now.
Going back to Max 8.1.11 and making the standalone with that version solves the problem, - i only have to give permission once, then the computer remembers the permissions. so it seems to be a bug in the newer version(s). I'll post here again when I have more news about it! J
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personal_username
Jan 29 2022 | 9:53 am
Hi Justine,
if I recall correctly you can bypass this with an apple developer ID. Once you have one, you should codesign* the app with a script.
Check this thread: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13204407/how-to-codesign-an-existing-mac-os-x-app-file-for-gatekeeper
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jb@bmbcon.demon.nl
Jan 29 2022 | 11:55 am
Thanks for the link! I'll check it out. It all seems to work anyway by using Max 8.1.11. And hopefully the bug will be fixed in a future version of Max.
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Carlos Caires
Feb 21 2023 | 12:47 pm
Same here. I'm forced to export my App (https://irin.carloscaires.com/ ) using max 8.1.11. Did anyone reported this issue in the bug report form?
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CharBoogie
Jun 06 2023 | 12:39 pm
Anybody have any news on this? I can't even find where to download Max 8.1.11 anymore! Seems the oldest avail on the website is 8.2 something...
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Source Audio
Jun 06 2023 | 2:53 pm
Max 8.1.11. is surelly still available for download, but link is not shown is this for your own needs? in which case you could get rid of stupid apple security restrictions. if you think solution is to use 8.1.11 I could digg download link from archives
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Source Audio
Jun 06 2023 | 3:33 pm
https://akiaj5esl75o5wbdcv2a-maxmspjitter.s3.amazonaws.com/Max8111_210413.dmg
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Francois Weber
Jun 07 2023 | 1:08 pm
Hi all, Same thing with my standalone... but i can't use the 8.1.11 because of some objects that have since been updated (ex : mc.resize). I hope C74 solves this problem in the next release...
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Rob Ramirez
Jun 07 2023 | 1:15 pm
You simply need to codesign the standalone app bundle. From a terminal:
codesign -s - -f mystandalone.app
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Francois Weber
Jun 08 2023 | 8:11 am
Hi Rob,
Thank you for your reply. I did that, but unfortunately it doesn't work. I get the following error message in the terminal : " resource fork, Finder information, or similar detritus not allowed "
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billyanok
Jun 08 2023 | 8:30 am
Run first before codesign
sudo xattr -cr mystandalone.app
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CharBoogie
Jun 08 2023 | 11:55 am
Thank you everyone for your replies!
I'm having the same issue now -- realizing that I need the functionality of some updates since 8.1.1.
I thought that you needed to register an Apple developer ID in order to co-design the app?
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billyanok
Jun 08 2023 | 4:49 pm
Yes you do as far as I know? B
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Rob Ramirez
Jun 09 2023 | 12:31 am
you don't need a developer ID when you sign anonymously, which is what passing "-" to the "-s" flag does
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Francois Weber
Jun 09 2023 | 10:31 am
Thanks Rob, Thanks Billyanok !!!!
I did :
sudo xattr -cr mystandalone.app then
codesign -s - -f mystandalone.app
And all is right now, without Apple developer ID.

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billyanok
Jun 09 2023 | 1:33 pm
No problem, glad to help!
@Rob Ramirez - interesting, I didn't know this- "you don't need a developer ID when you sign anonymously, which is what passing "-" to the "-s" flag does"
B
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CharBoogie
Jun 10 2023 | 9:56 am
Amazing! Going to give it a shot... thanks everyone!
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Martin.Jirsak
Jun 13 2023 | 9:29 am
Hi all,
I have an issue, which might be related (or not, I don't know).
I tried to use mxj_autobot and/or 11clicks externals. Everything works as expected until I export my patch as stand-alone application on Mac. In the exported stand-alone the mouse movement doesn't work anymore. My expectation is, I have to enable the application in the System Settings > Privacy & Security > Accessibility on macOS. But even if I do so, the mouse doesn't move.
Max is also enabled in the Accessibility and both the externals work within Max.
Do you have any idea, please? Do I have to setup something specific in the [standalone] object or on the export, so the system recognizes the new application correctly? Or any other idea, please?
I tried to use the Terminal tricks, you recommended, but it didn't help.
Thank you for any hint!
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