Roland Cahen

It has recently became hell to simply switch from patch mode to complete fullscreen in presentation mode. But it seems impossible to automatically go to fullscreen in presentation at startup or with a single simple switch. 

Because the only way I found out is to use :

- patcher must open in presentation mode -

1) sending 'fullscreen 1' message to thispatcher object

- the max interface stays as a frame around the presentation -

2) typing on keyboard "cmd-8" (this obliges to do it on the keyboard and can apparently not be done with a message neither at startup)

- the max interface disappears, but the window shinks

3) sending 'fullscreen 1' again (sometimes twice)

4)+ add other thispatcher messages for scroll bars

This issue forbids to create clean interfaces with automatic startup which were easily doable in max 7.

I tried to modify mac mission control as well without any change.

Would it be possible to have a simple option with open in presentation ?

Hello, 
It has recently became hell to simply switch from patch mode to complete fullscreen in presentation mode. But it seems impossible to automatically go to fullscreen in presentation at startup or with a single simple switch. 

Because the only way I found out is to use :
- patcher must open in presentation mode -
1) sending 'fullscreen 1' message to thispatcher object
- the max interface stays as a frame around the presentation -
2) typing on keyboard "cmd-8" (this obliges to do it on the keyboard and can apparently not be done with a message neither at startup)
- the max interface disappears, but the window shinks
3) sending 'fullscreen 1' again (sometimes twice)
4)+ add other thispatcher messages for scroll bars

This issue forbids to create clean interfaces with automatic startup which were easily doable in max 7.
Am I correct or am I missing something ?
I tried to modify mac mission control as well without any change.

Would it be possible to have a simple option with open in presentation ?
Just to make it simple and usable ?

Hello, 
It has recently became hell to simply switch from patch mode to complete fullscreen in presentation mode. But it seems impossible to

true-fullscreen-in-presentation-mode-at-startup

if you manually unpin all the toolbars, save the patch and add a delay to the fullscreen message, that works

Thanks a lot Florent, but it does not seem to work if I save your test patch with view/toolbar off. The toolbars come back when I open the patch.

But if I edit the patch in a text editor and change manually "toolbarvisible" from 1 to 0, then the patch opens without toolbars.

It also works in the patch sending the message [toolbarvisible 0, window exec] to thispatcher, but the patch must be saved and reopen to see the change. 

Some other post refer to this odd behaviour : https://cycling74.com/search/page/1/toolbarvisible

The following patch sums up our discussion.

Thanks a lot Florent, but it does not seem to work if I save your test patch with view/toolbar off. The toolbars come back when I open the patch.
But if I edit the patch in a text editor and change manually "toolbarvisible" from 1 to 0, then the patch opens without toolbars.
...
                 "toolbarvisible" : 0,
...
It also works in the patch sending the message [toolbarvisible 0, window exec] to thispatcher, but the patch must be saved and reopen to see the change. 
Some other post refer to this odd behaviour : https://cycling74.com/search/page/1/toolbarvisible

The following patch sums up our discussion.
Best regards 
Roland

that's strange, it works fine on my macbook pro

is it a mac/pc thing or something in the Max preferences?

that's strange, it works fine on my macbook pro
is it a mac/pc thing or something in the Max preferences? 

patcher toolbar visibility is an attribute of the patcher, so to disable open the patcher inspector (inspector window, click the P at the top), scroll down to "Show Toolbar on Open" and uncheck. save your patch, and when you reopen there should be no toolbars.

you can make this the default behavior using templates.

True fullscreen in presentation mode at startup