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jake rodriguez

I've got a standalone app I've built in 8.2.0 and running on a Mac Mini M1 processor. When i run the standalone on the mac mini, I get the security "app would like to use the microphone" prompt on every start of the application, despite my having granted it, and every change i make to the audio status also brings up this prompt. if i quit out of the standalone, and check security preferences, i can see my standalone has been granted access to the microphone, but it still prompts me every start and every driver change i make.

I've got a standalone app I've built in 8.2.0 and running on a Mac Mini M1 processor. When i run the standalone on the mac mini, I get the s

standalone-created-in-8-2-0-on-m1big-sur

Hey Jake! I can repro here and we will investigate. It just seems to be a problem on Big Sur (as far as I can tell).

hey Ben. yes--can confirm the security stuff is not an issue on my Mojave machine.

Hi, I think Big Sur tightens up security a bit more than Catalina and insists on a code-signed and properly entitled application for some types of persistent security permissions (like mic or camera). It's unclear from your post whether your app is signed/entitled with the "com.apple.security.device.audio-input" key set to true.

In case helpful, steps for code signing your standalone application are outlined here:
https://cycling74.com/articles/max-8-1-mac-os-10-15-catalina-support-and-notarization

thanks pals for this help. it's been a minute since i've bundled to a standalone and didn't realize Apple had gotten so touchy. will attempt to code sign and try again.
jk

I'm having issues distributing a standalone using a fork of an external (max-ble) which I compile myself.
I'm actually building the standalone on a 2015 macbook pro running catalina, and it doesn't work as expected on a recent M1 macbook running mac os 11, which of course I don't have access to.
I was still using Max 8.1.11 and everything worked fine except the scanning of BLE devices ([max-ble] seemed to work correctly but couldn't find any device), so I gave a try with Max 8.2.2 and apparently it doesn't even open any window anymore, except the console which doesn't display anything.
For information, I distribute the standalone by zipping it and uploading it to a public folder on my server.

Enabling the "rosetta" option on the standalone from the M1 apparently doesn't help in any case.

As suggested by Joshua, I tried to sign the standalone with the following Entitlements.plist file :
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
    <key>com.apple.security.device.bluetooth<;/key>
    <true/>
</dict>
</plist>

using the following command line :
codesign -s <my_developer_id> --options runtime --timestamp --force --deep --entitlements ./Entitlements.plist -f <my_standalone_path>

But then when I open the standalone on my machine, no object is found, everything is red and I get a load of error messages in the console, which seems to indicate that my entitlements somehow override default entitlements applied during the standalone build process.
Any further hints on the use of an entitlements file to sign a standalone ?
Any other advice would be much appreciated too.

It looks like things were going better with Max 8.1.11 (and the standalone size was much smaller : 64 Mo with Max 8.1.11 compared to 235 Mo with Max 8.2.2), so meanwhile I'll give another try with it and double check with my standalone user if he didn't do anything that could have prevented BLE devices to be discoverable.

standalone created in 8.2.0 on M1/Big Sur

Jeremy

Presenting the best Max object you never knew you needed: "uci", filling out the Max feature set with that certain je ne sais quoi which only chess can provide. Years in the making, now immediately available for your personal enjoyment.

- mouse and text move input (short/long algebraic or coordinate notation)

- move verification, check and mate detection, en passant, castling and promotion

- move message output indicating (long) algebraic notation, coordinate notation, ply and move success (validity)

- 17 buttery smooth and expertly centered piece sets

- view the board from White or Black's perspective

- load and configure up to 2 UCI-compatible chess engines -- play against yourself, a friend, a computer or let two computers play against one another

- full engine analysis output is available for parsing & evaluation

- Max for Live device for color-coded chess using Ableton's Push interface

Available in a convenient Max 6.1 Package format @ 

Thanks in advance for any testing or comments.

Features:
- mouse and text move input (short/long algebraic or coordinate notation)
- move verification, check and mate detection, en passant, castling and promotion
- move message output indicating (long) algebraic notation, coordinate notation, ply and move success (validity)
- FEN input/output support
- 17 buttery smooth and expertly centered piece sets
- fonts and colors
- coordinates
- view the board from White or Black's perspective
- load and configure up to 2 UCI-compatible chess engines -- play against yourself, a friend, a computer or let two computers play against one another
- full engine analysis output is available for parsing & evaluation
- 32/64 bit compatible
- Mac & Windows support

Coming "soon":
- PGN file/database input/output
- Max for Live device for color-coded chess using Ableton's Push interface

Available in a convenient Max 6.1 Package format @ http://www.expr-i0.net/uci.zip

chess-for-max

Am i correct in understanding that pawns on reaching the backboard don't change to a new piece? 

Also, I do not see documentation for the checkboxes available in the options window, so alas I am unsure what those check boxes toggle.


Promotion might have been, eh, overlooked. I've never really played a real game using this thing. :-) En passant capturing is supported, though, I'll fix the promotion bug as soon as possible.

Attached is my options dialog for the Stockfish engine. Yours doesn't look like that?

I just replaced the archive at the location linked above with a version which fixes the promotion bug. Sorry about that.

Note that underpromotion is only available if you type the move in (e.g. c8=N in algebraic or c7c8n in coordinate). Otherwise, you're getting a queen.

Sooo, if that's the image you see, those are options for the Stockfish engine and are probably documented on the Stockfish website (http://stockfishchess.org/) -- I'm just passing along the stuff that the engine tells me about. Certain options, like MultiPV (to enable more than 1 principle variation in analysis) or Threads (to control processor usage) are fairly widespread. Others are engine-specific, so you have to find the engine documentation to get a good idea of what those things do.

>  or let two computers play against one another

hey
your presentation at CodeControl was very cool :)


Coming soon:
- view game score from White's perspective (it's currently relative to the side to move)
- option to output PV in coordinate notation, which is easier to parse and map in Max (see below -- very simple LCD rendering of the engine's "thoughts" during the famous game Morphy vs. Anderssen)

It's so great !
I'd love to test this on windows !!


ha! unbelieveable, love it, can't wait to try this!


I've uploaded a new version to http://www.expr-i0.net/uci_130327.zip .

- changes (hopefully improvements) to UCI engine output parsing, more information now available
- option to display UCI engine score from White's perspective (so, absolute). On by default.
- option to output UCI engine PVs in coordinate notation (rather than algebraic) to facilitate move parsing. Off by default.
- ensure that running UCI engines are analyzing the position on the board.
- some minor improvements to the help file (particularly in the parsing subpatcher).

- minor fixes to 'info' output parsing
- complete rewrite of IPC code to accommodate engines with buffered output. Engine loading is now much faster as a side effect.
- 'load' message opens a dialog if no arguments are supplied
- 'id' info is reported by the engine (name and author)
- more helpfile fixes (non-multiPV case was missing)

Thanks in advance for testing and feedback!

(below is another stupidly simple rendering, this time World Champion Vishy Anand's beautiful win as Black over Levon Aronian at this year's Wijk aan Zee tournament)

(by the way, you can read more about the UCI protocol and download the spec here: http://www.shredderchess.com/chess-info/features/uci-universal-chess-interface.html . It might assist you in writing your own parsing patcher for the data streaming from the uci object, but probably not that much)...


I'm seeing a series of fine art prints here, Jeremy. The N greatest chess games ever played.


I'm mostly interested in perfecting my ballpoint pen emulation for the time being, but if any wealthy patrons would like limited edition archival prints, they know where to find me. ;-)

Barring any further bug reports, the version of the object at http://www.expr-i0.net/uci.zip is definitive for now. Getting a Windows version going may take a little while, but that's what's next.

i was about to say it, the impressive part of the otherwise ugly image is that it really looks like ballpoint pen.


stupid question-- what are those pictures you keep posting? are they the traces of pieces on the chessboard during a game or something more abstract?


Cool! Unfortunately Max gets these errors here when trying to load the engines:

uci: load error: could not execute Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max 6.1/packages/uci/misc/critter-16a
uci: load error: could not execute Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max 6.1/packages/uci/misc/stockfish-231-64

The whole package is in "Macintosh HD:Applications:Max 6.1:packages:uci", read access is granted...
Max 6.1
Osx 10.6.8


@Terry McDermott: in every position (so after every move played in the game), the UCI chess engine (Critter in this case: http://www.vlasak.biz/critter/ ) starts "thinking" and sends a number of lines of potential future play (principle variations = PV), each with a score (in floating point pawns). The (very simple) patch I made basically draws these PVs (as many as are sent within 2-3 seconds), uses the score to determine a color [more white = in white's favor, more black = in black's favor, blue = LCD bug, basically means very much in Black's favor]... and that's it. Add a little random jitter to the pen positions and voilà, ballpoint pen sketches.

So the drawings are basically maps of what could have happened after each move. Some of the lines did happen, some didn't. So it's slightly more abstract, but not much!

@jko: are you in 32- or 64-bit mode -- you can determine that by following the instructions here: http://osxdaily.com/2009/09/07/how-to-tell-if-youre-running-the-32-bit-or-64-bit-kernel-in-mac-os-x-snow-leopard/ ? I just verified that everything loads on a 10.6.8 machine in 64-bit mode.

Here are a few things to try from the Terminal:
> cd /Applications/Max 6.1/packages/uci/misc/
> ./critter-16a

Does the engine execute? If you see something like "Critter v1.6a 64-bit, by Richard Vida" printed, then it worked. Type 'quit' to exit the engine. If that didn't work. Type:

and look at the permissions on the left-hand side of the listing. Mine are "-rwxr-xr-x". If you are missing the 'x's, the file isn't executable for some reason (your unzipper might have trashed them). Try:

and see if that fixes the problem (for Critter -- you'll have to do the same with Stockfish, of course).

Thanks, let me know what you find. I have a 32-bit 10.6.8 machine kicking around that I can test on, too, if you don't get any further after trying this stuff out.

It's the 32 bit kernel. (do you think I should try to switch to the 64 kernel generally? It's an old machine but it does what I need it to so far...)

Enginge executes with this message:
jkomac:misc jko$ ./critter-16a
Critter v1.6a 64-bit, by Richard Vida
hardware POPCNT disabled

BTW: tried to load the Hiarcs Hiarcs13.1SP and the Hiarcs13.1MP as well (I use these here with Sigma), also no success.


If you were running the 32-bit kernel, Critter would say "Critter v1.6a 32-bit, by Richard Vida", so I suspect that you are actually running the 64-bit kernel! 

I know that HIARCS 13 & 14 both work in 64-bit mode (the changes I made to the IPC in the last version were due to HIARCS's buffered output, in fact). And I just installed Max and 'uci' on my 32-bit 10.6.8 box and could successfully load and run Critter (the version of Stockfish which I put in the archive is 64-bit only, so you'd need to get the 32-bit version from their site). So this is a puzzle.

Is there anything in your Console.app which looks relevant?

@jko: OK, here's an idea. It might be the spaces in the path names. You could use a packages folder in your user documents folder to test this, so that the path to the file is /Users/jko/Documents/Max/Packages/uci/misc/critter-16a , without any spaces. Please give that a whirl.

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