I do not know if it's me but I have trouble with the box number in attrui: when I release my mouse attrui often changes the value of the box number.

I tested with several mouse and the same.

The various tests that I made with Gen MSP and Jitter are crazy.

Thank you team cycling74 for all this work and all these new ideas.

I look forward to more information and tutorials.

I do not know if it's me but I have trouble with the box number in attrui: when I release my mouse attrui often changes the value of the box number.
I tested with several mouse and the same.

Thank you team cycling74 for all this work and all these new ideas.
I look forward to more information and tutorials.


attrui-store-and-recall-settings

attrui doesn't support preset nor pattr since its magic is to grab the values directly from the object it's connected to.


I saw attrui as a quick and convenient to work, but the magic of attrui beyond me.

for example:
I use jit.gl.gridshape hop a shot of the small wheel or Attributes of the object to take the position function. I automatically attrui position, great! it's magic: D but I finally make my pak position if I want to record my position.

I find really a shame that attrui can not be saved.

Even though I totally get the magic of attrui, I kind of agree with Laurent - it's incredibly convenient to have a standardized label/value object, and if its state was savable via pattr/preset, it could replace all kinds of comments, multiple number boxes, etc.

I'm wondering if attrui might be able to get an attribute for a second mode/state:

Mode 1: attrui grabs values from object, attribute name can be changed via popup menu (just the way it works now)

Mode 2: attrui no longer grabs values from object, attribute name is fixed, values are savable via pattr/preset. When patch is loaded, if no preset has been set, values could be grabbed once on load from object (so that attrui & object stay coordinated).

As it is now, attrui is incredibly useful as long as I set the attributes of all my objects in the objects themselves. But the minute I start using pattr to save states, I have to either add pattr-compatible objects that feed into each attrui, or take out the attruis altogether and replace them with pattr-compatible objects (plus comments/labels). Either way, there's a lot of redundant patching that could be eliminated.


Bumping this with the same sentiment, really - a switchable mode that makes the value parameter one-directional would be a really great way of building patches. 

As it stands it means that for many attribute things I am now either:

1) Connecting number boxes to a thing that already has number boxes...!
or
2) going back to the old [someattribute $1] method, even though a much slicker method is right in front of me :-/


>  but I finally make my pak position if I want to record my position

 I still hope for something like a ";max freeze all_attributes" message ....


Attrui does not work with preset.
"Magic"?
I vote "no"...

The truly magical and mystical experience would be to use attrui to replace a lot of ugly message boxes and pak objects. Not possible without presets.


attrui doesn't really have much of a "state" so there's nothing to save in a preset.  It's just a window into a different object.


It's possible to bind pattr objects to attributes of another named object, like this:


+1 for preset/attrui compatibility. attrui is too nice an interface not to be used to its full potential.


Well... attrui may be the "magic grabber" but that doesn't mean that what is grabbed should remain inaccessible.  

attrui doesn’t really have much of a “state” so there’s nothing to save in a preset. It’s just a window into a different object.

No.. it's not just window.  If it's "grabbing" values then it's more like a see-through container.  If it can grab, contain and display, surely it's feasible to output.  

How about having an outlet that magically sends the values to another object.  That will at least allow for a 'workaround' for the preset/pattr issue.  There are so many potential uses of such functionality it boggles the mind.


Bumping into this again today. Did a method for tying attrui into a preset/pattrstorage emerge in the mean time? It would be such an obvious feature...


in max 7 values of attrui still can not be saved when you save the patch ???


+1 attrui values being saveable with preset :-)


I didn't find this solution. Could you explain more precisely, please?


@Michel8
What do you mean?? you didn't this solution ?

Although there is a workaround but in a pain in the neck for time efficiency,
but then again , so is having a ton of [pak blab f f f ] in Jitter. 

Anyways the workaround involves using pattrstorage , and it worth it
if you want to use pattrstorage's fade $1. I do use this feature to create
timelines for specific camera positions , works like a charm. 

all right, I thought the +1 was the missing magic spell.
So, it is still the same effort. Too bad and amazing! Thank you for your example.


here is an even more straight forward patch ;-) 


That is the best! Will save many hours. Thank you very much


Wondering if this topic has changed  to a more convenient solution with Max 8?
Especially with patches using a lot of Jitter objects the following workarounds are not optimal.
a) Transform -> Changed Attributes to Arguments makes patchers become visually overloaded and hard to read. 
b) Using [pak] with number boxes and [preset] as stated in a post above  "...there's a lot of redundant patching that could be eliminated".
c) Using scripting names and pattr is finally as cumbersome as b)

How about scripting? Here's an quick-and-dirty abstraction called autoadd_attributes that uses thispatcher to generate and bind pattr objects. The abstraction takes the scripting name of the object and a list of attributes as patcher arguments: 

[autoadd_attributes myobject attr1 att2 attr3 …]

Seems to work. I can drop an autoadd_attributes object into any patcher. The pattrs are created inside the abstraction using @bindto and thus exposed to the pattr system. You never see the cruft. Saves typing at least.


attrui store and recall settings ?

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jake rodriguez

I've got a standalone app I've built in 8.2.0 and running on a Mac Mini M1 processor. When i run the standalone on the mac mini, I get the security "app would like to use the microphone" prompt on every start of the application, despite my having granted it, and every change i make to the audio status also brings up this prompt. if i quit out of the standalone, and check security preferences, i can see my standalone has been granted access to the microphone, but it still prompts me every start and every driver change i make.

I've got a standalone app I've built in 8.2.0 and running on a Mac Mini M1 processor. When i run the standalone on the mac mini, I get the s

standalone-created-in-8-2-0-on-m1big-sur

Hey Jake! I can repro here and we will investigate. It just seems to be a problem on Big Sur (as far as I can tell).

hey Ben. yes--can confirm the security stuff is not an issue on my Mojave machine.

Hi, I think Big Sur tightens up security a bit more than Catalina and insists on a code-signed and properly entitled application for some types of persistent security permissions (like mic or camera). It's unclear from your post whether your app is signed/entitled with the "com.apple.security.device.audio-input" key set to true.

In case helpful, steps for code signing your standalone application are outlined here:
https://cycling74.com/articles/max-8-1-mac-os-10-15-catalina-support-and-notarization

thanks pals for this help. it's been a minute since i've bundled to a standalone and didn't realize Apple had gotten so touchy. will attempt to code sign and try again.
jk

I'm having issues distributing a standalone using a fork of an external (max-ble) which I compile myself.
I'm actually building the standalone on a 2015 macbook pro running catalina, and it doesn't work as expected on a recent M1 macbook running mac os 11, which of course I don't have access to.
I was still using Max 8.1.11 and everything worked fine except the scanning of BLE devices ([max-ble] seemed to work correctly but couldn't find any device), so I gave a try with Max 8.2.2 and apparently it doesn't even open any window anymore, except the console which doesn't display anything.
For information, I distribute the standalone by zipping it and uploading it to a public folder on my server.

Enabling the "rosetta" option on the standalone from the M1 apparently doesn't help in any case.

As suggested by Joshua, I tried to sign the standalone with the following Entitlements.plist file :
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
    <key>com.apple.security.device.bluetooth<;/key>
    <true/>
</dict>
</plist>

using the following command line :
codesign -s <my_developer_id> --options runtime --timestamp --force --deep --entitlements ./Entitlements.plist -f <my_standalone_path>

But then when I open the standalone on my machine, no object is found, everything is red and I get a load of error messages in the console, which seems to indicate that my entitlements somehow override default entitlements applied during the standalone build process.
Any further hints on the use of an entitlements file to sign a standalone ?
Any other advice would be much appreciated too.

It looks like things were going better with Max 8.1.11 (and the standalone size was much smaller : 64 Mo with Max 8.1.11 compared to 235 Mo with Max 8.2.2), so meanwhile I'll give another try with it and double check with my standalone user if he didn't do anything that could have prevented BLE devices to be discoverable.

standalone created in 8.2.0 on M1/Big Sur

Jeremy

Presenting the best Max object you never knew you needed: "uci", filling out the Max feature set with that certain je ne sais quoi which only chess can provide. Years in the making, now immediately available for your personal enjoyment.

- mouse and text move input (short/long algebraic or coordinate notation)

- move verification, check and mate detection, en passant, castling and promotion

- move message output indicating (long) algebraic notation, coordinate notation, ply and move success (validity)

- 17 buttery smooth and expertly centered piece sets

- view the board from White or Black's perspective

- load and configure up to 2 UCI-compatible chess engines -- play against yourself, a friend, a computer or let two computers play against one another

- full engine analysis output is available for parsing & evaluation

- Max for Live device for color-coded chess using Ableton's Push interface

Available in a convenient Max 6.1 Package format @ 

Thanks in advance for any testing or comments.

Features:
- mouse and text move input (short/long algebraic or coordinate notation)
- move verification, check and mate detection, en passant, castling and promotion
- move message output indicating (long) algebraic notation, coordinate notation, ply and move success (validity)
- FEN input/output support
- 17 buttery smooth and expertly centered piece sets
- fonts and colors
- coordinates
- view the board from White or Black's perspective
- load and configure up to 2 UCI-compatible chess engines -- play against yourself, a friend, a computer or let two computers play against one another
- full engine analysis output is available for parsing & evaluation
- 32/64 bit compatible
- Mac & Windows support

Coming "soon":
- PGN file/database input/output
- Max for Live device for color-coded chess using Ableton's Push interface

Available in a convenient Max 6.1 Package format @ http://www.expr-i0.net/uci.zip

chess-for-max

Am i correct in understanding that pawns on reaching the backboard don't change to a new piece? 

Also, I do not see documentation for the checkboxes available in the options window, so alas I am unsure what those check boxes toggle.


Promotion might have been, eh, overlooked. I've never really played a real game using this thing. :-) En passant capturing is supported, though, I'll fix the promotion bug as soon as possible.

Attached is my options dialog for the Stockfish engine. Yours doesn't look like that?

I just replaced the archive at the location linked above with a version which fixes the promotion bug. Sorry about that.

Note that underpromotion is only available if you type the move in (e.g. c8=N in algebraic or c7c8n in coordinate). Otherwise, you're getting a queen.

Sooo, if that's the image you see, those are options for the Stockfish engine and are probably documented on the Stockfish website (http://stockfishchess.org/) -- I'm just passing along the stuff that the engine tells me about. Certain options, like MultiPV (to enable more than 1 principle variation in analysis) or Threads (to control processor usage) are fairly widespread. Others are engine-specific, so you have to find the engine documentation to get a good idea of what those things do.

>  or let two computers play against one another

hey
your presentation at CodeControl was very cool :)


Coming soon:
- view game score from White's perspective (it's currently relative to the side to move)
- option to output PV in coordinate notation, which is easier to parse and map in Max (see below -- very simple LCD rendering of the engine's "thoughts" during the famous game Morphy vs. Anderssen)

It's so great !
I'd love to test this on windows !!


ha! unbelieveable, love it, can't wait to try this!


I've uploaded a new version to http://www.expr-i0.net/uci_130327.zip .

- changes (hopefully improvements) to UCI engine output parsing, more information now available
- option to display UCI engine score from White's perspective (so, absolute). On by default.
- option to output UCI engine PVs in coordinate notation (rather than algebraic) to facilitate move parsing. Off by default.
- ensure that running UCI engines are analyzing the position on the board.
- some minor improvements to the help file (particularly in the parsing subpatcher).

- minor fixes to 'info' output parsing
- complete rewrite of IPC code to accommodate engines with buffered output. Engine loading is now much faster as a side effect.
- 'load' message opens a dialog if no arguments are supplied
- 'id' info is reported by the engine (name and author)
- more helpfile fixes (non-multiPV case was missing)

Thanks in advance for testing and feedback!

(below is another stupidly simple rendering, this time World Champion Vishy Anand's beautiful win as Black over Levon Aronian at this year's Wijk aan Zee tournament)

(by the way, you can read more about the UCI protocol and download the spec here: http://www.shredderchess.com/chess-info/features/uci-universal-chess-interface.html . It might assist you in writing your own parsing patcher for the data streaming from the uci object, but probably not that much)...


I'm seeing a series of fine art prints here, Jeremy. The N greatest chess games ever played.


I'm mostly interested in perfecting my ballpoint pen emulation for the time being, but if any wealthy patrons would like limited edition archival prints, they know where to find me. ;-)

Barring any further bug reports, the version of the object at http://www.expr-i0.net/uci.zip is definitive for now. Getting a Windows version going may take a little while, but that's what's next.

i was about to say it, the impressive part of the otherwise ugly image is that it really looks like ballpoint pen.


stupid question-- what are those pictures you keep posting? are they the traces of pieces on the chessboard during a game or something more abstract?


Cool! Unfortunately Max gets these errors here when trying to load the engines:

uci: load error: could not execute Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max 6.1/packages/uci/misc/critter-16a
uci: load error: could not execute Macintosh HD:/Applications/Max 6.1/packages/uci/misc/stockfish-231-64

The whole package is in "Macintosh HD:Applications:Max 6.1:packages:uci", read access is granted...
Max 6.1
Osx 10.6.8


@Terry McDermott: in every position (so after every move played in the game), the UCI chess engine (Critter in this case: http://www.vlasak.biz/critter/ ) starts "thinking" and sends a number of lines of potential future play (principle variations = PV), each with a score (in floating point pawns). The (very simple) patch I made basically draws these PVs (as many as are sent within 2-3 seconds), uses the score to determine a color [more white = in white's favor, more black = in black's favor, blue = LCD bug, basically means very much in Black's favor]... and that's it. Add a little random jitter to the pen positions and voilà, ballpoint pen sketches.

So the drawings are basically maps of what could have happened after each move. Some of the lines did happen, some didn't. So it's slightly more abstract, but not much!

@jko: are you in 32- or 64-bit mode -- you can determine that by following the instructions here: http://osxdaily.com/2009/09/07/how-to-tell-if-youre-running-the-32-bit-or-64-bit-kernel-in-mac-os-x-snow-leopard/ ? I just verified that everything loads on a 10.6.8 machine in 64-bit mode.

Here are a few things to try from the Terminal:
> cd /Applications/Max 6.1/packages/uci/misc/
> ./critter-16a

Does the engine execute? If you see something like "Critter v1.6a 64-bit, by Richard Vida" printed, then it worked. Type 'quit' to exit the engine. If that didn't work. Type:

and look at the permissions on the left-hand side of the listing. Mine are "-rwxr-xr-x". If you are missing the 'x's, the file isn't executable for some reason (your unzipper might have trashed them). Try:

and see if that fixes the problem (for Critter -- you'll have to do the same with Stockfish, of course).

Thanks, let me know what you find. I have a 32-bit 10.6.8 machine kicking around that I can test on, too, if you don't get any further after trying this stuff out.

It's the 32 bit kernel. (do you think I should try to switch to the 64 kernel generally? It's an old machine but it does what I need it to so far...)

Enginge executes with this message:
jkomac:misc jko$ ./critter-16a
Critter v1.6a 64-bit, by Richard Vida
hardware POPCNT disabled

BTW: tried to load the Hiarcs Hiarcs13.1SP and the Hiarcs13.1MP as well (I use these here with Sigma), also no success.


If you were running the 32-bit kernel, Critter would say "Critter v1.6a 32-bit, by Richard Vida", so I suspect that you are actually running the 64-bit kernel! 

I know that HIARCS 13 & 14 both work in 64-bit mode (the changes I made to the IPC in the last version were due to HIARCS's buffered output, in fact). And I just installed Max and 'uci' on my 32-bit 10.6.8 box and could successfully load and run Critter (the version of Stockfish which I put in the archive is 64-bit only, so you'd need to get the 32-bit version from their site). So this is a puzzle.

Is there anything in your Console.app which looks relevant?

@jko: OK, here's an idea. It might be the spaces in the path names. You could use a packages folder in your user documents folder to test this, so that the path to the file is /Users/jko/Documents/Max/Packages/uci/misc/critter-16a , without any spaces. Please give that a whirl.

uname -a
Darwin jkomac.local 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun  7 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386

I'll be offline for some days now and will get back to you next week. Happy Easter!


Ha, twas the Spaces in the paths! Got it working now, thanks!


Great, I'll fix that and update the archive. The 'stat' tool that I'm using to verify executability is apparently stricter about spaces than the other parts of the IPC chain.

OK, a general fix for paths containing spaces is now included in the object at http://www.expr-i0.net/uci.zip

Thanks for helping me find that (embarrassing) problem, Jeremy


You asked for it... At long last, the Windows version is finally available. :-)

http://www.expr-i0.net/uci.zip now contains 32- and 64-bit Windows binaries, an updated helpfile and some Windows UCI engines to play around with (in addition to an updated Max external). Thanks for checking it out, and please let me know if you run into any trouble. I'm not 100% satisfied with the quality of the images on Windows, so there may still be some changes in that regard, but it should be otherwise feature-equal with the OSX version.

Anyone had a chance to try this out on Windows who cares to lavish praise/indifference/scorn on the project? Like, does it work?


I'm not sure I understand. Windows 32-bit is working for me. But maybe you just mean that the computer beat you. :-) Don't feel bad -- even the free engines provided in the download are tendencially stronger than human grandmasters.


You guess right... i just can not beat max!...max/msp at last takes revenge for all these painful hours of experimentation ...Jeremy this object is INCREDIBLE! THANK YOU!


Jeremy, hope you don't mind, I added the package to my new Max Package Downloader (https://github.com/natcl/max_package_downloader)
For easy download and update from within max !


Building something to paste in Openings and play Chess by sending moves via email I realized that the back / forward function stops working after a certain count of moves. See attachment. Would be perfect if you look into and see if there is an easy fix (or if it's just here) before I start building a FEN history by myself....
Best, Joerg


Thanks for the report. I'll check this out and get back in the next day or so.

Good find, it's a tiny little bug in the FEN parser. I'll push new versions out later today, thanks for helping to track that down.

So attached is a maxproj that can do 2 things:
1) we use it to play remote chess by sending moves via mail: Start a new game or paste the move sequence you got into the textedit box. Make your move, it'll be appended to the text. Copy everything in the textbox and paste it into an email, send, done, wait for reply. If you don't need to recreate the game you can also just append your move in the mail using the short Notation a1a2. If you paste it in the patch later the parser will tidy it again. (You could also send pgn files but this way it's very simple to reply without opening the patch if the game is still on your table).
(a co-player told us he played chess in a tournament by sending moves via postcards, 3months timeout for 10 moves - nice)
If you use back forward the textedit field will be cleared not to mix it up completely....
2) Paste in games from wikipedia (eg: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_bekannter_Schachpartien) or whatever. You can basically paste in everything as long as the moves contain start field and end field "11. Qd4xe5??" will work as good as "d4e5", as long as it's a valid move and there is no spaces inside. "Qe5" will not work! You can paste in a lot of moves at once (text will be ignored, but alternatives not, so just copy the lines that contain real moves). Hit enter or click the button, if it can not be parsed you'll see the problem move below the board. Use the back forward buttons to see what happened in the game.

You might want to remove the german attribute in the js box in order to output english Shortnames (RBQKN)

If there was still pm-Option I would ask you to challenge me that way but I can't find it anymore, is it gone?


Hi Jeremy,
Have you developed the M4L Device yet ?
Thanks,
JHD


Heh, yes I did like 1.5 years ago. No idea if it still works. I'll get back to you after Max 7 is released


Is M4L device contained in aforementioned zip links ?


No I never released it. I'll need to find it and clean it up (it was part of a presentation I made in Leicester).


Hi Jeremy, thank you for the wonderful Chess for Max object! Just wondering, does it work with Mira?


That would be a feat. No, I'm afraid there is no Miraified representation of the board. You would need to construct that yourself >>somehow<< (and it doesn't immediately occur to me, how).

P.S. I found the materials referenced above, will send something out on Monday...

Well, I've done it! Head on over to the 'software' section of my website (http://www.raphaelradna.com) to download the 'MIRA Interface for UCI' Max 6 project. The code is pretty clumsy, but it is working on my devices. If you use it, please feel free to let me know what problems you encounter, or what features you would like to see in an update (I am already thinking about implementing additional tabs that allow for complete UCI configuration, and moves list/analytical readout). I should also mention that I haven't tried using it with one or more computer players, so I don't know if that works. Cheers!


That's so cool! I don't actually have an iThing to try it out with, but thanks for doing it.

By the way, here's a test version (OSX only) which supports read/write of PGN game files, among some other refinements and fixes: https://www.dropbox.com/s/c3pddcb0dc8hpn0/uci_150204.zip?dl=0

Once I'm happy with everything and have had a chance to update the Windows objects + the help file + dust off the Push code, I'll make a new official release. In the meantime, please take it for a spin...

- @shortalgebraic allows switching between long and short algebraic move output (on by default)
- 'movelist' message dumps a list of moves in the format 'movelist ' from the status outlet
- alias back/forward to prev/next
- fix dataview colors (on Max 7)
- fix validation of pawn moves (some illegal moves were improperly validated)
- PGN support (openpgn , viewpgn, closepgn, savegame [appends current game to open pgn or creates a new pgn file and writes to it])

@Jeremy
 Great work but I am unable to see the moves and I am probably not doing something correctly.
I open the patch (in Max 7 first and then Max 6). The board and pieces look great. I click on
[openpgn] to get this game loaded, then I am expecting to click on [next] and [prev] to see the
game pieces move, but this is not happening. Anything that I am obviously missing?


@Jeremy: Hmm.... Looks like the latest supplied ZIP file contains the wrong name of .pgn: the
[message] should read [openpgn CarlsenAnand2014.pgn]. Then the game loads. Do you have a
more recent ZIP or is uci_150204 the latest? Thanks again for this excellent patch.


Hi Jeremy - checking back in a year + later (post Max 7 release) on the M4L device.
Any plans to release this ?
Thanks,
JHD


I am a naughty monkey. I'll post something today, whether it works or not. :-)


Well, to be fair, he did post something today....


SEE NEXT POST, THIS ONE IS OUTDATED
OK, attached is an amxd + js file which at one point allowed you to use your Push (1) as a chess board, using colors to identify the pieces. You'll need the latest UCI object (http://www.expr-i0.net/uci.zip , **which I just updated, by the way, I have no recollection whether there are new features, looks like some sundry bugfixes**) and probably some amount of help from your deity of choice. I have not tested this, but obviously I couldn't bear the weight of public pressure any longer.

If you get it working, please drop a note and post any fixes. I'll try to spin some of this up myself in the next 48 hours and see if it does anything anymore, and whether it works on a Push 2...


Following up, everything still works just fine on Push 1. I've updated the archive at http://www.expr-i0.net/uci.zip to include the .amxd + .js files. Push 2 is not currently working due to changes in the LCD + pad color specs, so I'll need to get additional information from the colleagues at Ableton.


Thanks so much Jeremy !
I'll check it out with my Push 1 today ! Any tips / links on how to how to install / properly implement the UCI  object on OSX 10.10.5 ? Looks like the stockfish install files are all .exe. Is this windows only ?


Place the 'uci' folder in "~/Documents/Max 7/Packages/", which will put everything you need in the search path. There are Stockfish and Critter binaries for OSX (64-bit) in the 'misc' folder.

OK, opened up in Live and this is what I'm looking at
http://djjohnhenry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Screen-Shot-2015-12-13-at-8.03.02-PM1.png

plus a Push 1 which seems to perhaps be lit-up to display an in-process game (?)

Looked at the .js file and wasn't able to make much sense of it.

Any tips on where to go from here ? Should the black .jit window be showing the game or chessboard ? 

How would, for example, start a new game from here ?

Thanks for all your help, it's much appreciated.
best,
JH


The version in the latest package removes the jit.window (this was there because I used the device during a presentation and needed to have a camera attached). So you can ignore that.

On the Push itself, you should be all set up for a new game after you press the "fen" and "settitle" message boxes.


Pushed the fen and settitle buttons. no dice. LEDs on Push remain the same.
Push looks like this: http://djjohnhenry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_3297.jpg
Suggestions ?


Hi Jeremy, assuming there's not a Push 2 M4L device yet ?
I am hoping to load PGN versions of chess matches (or simply enter moves in manually into the Max Chess patch and then have each move output a MIDI note value to the corresponding chess square (A1, B3 etc.) on PUSH 2's 64 pads grid.  Thoughts on where to start ?
Thanks!
JHD


I ended up here because I'm interested in doing a project involved chess programming in Max. I've seen this post is several years old and I don't know whether this is maintained any longer, however I have some questions that might be useful for my project:

- Is there any way to query the object to ask them for the presence or not of a certain piece, without having to parse the FEN output. Like "output e8" outputs "black king"

-  Is there any way to know all the possible legal moves beforehand, without actually performing the move and checking it's success or not? This would be useful, for example, for check status, or pieces that are menaced, etc.

- I would like to note that, if performing "en passant" and going back, if you perform "en passant" again, you can move the pawn but the captured opossite pawn isn't captured.

I'm not actively maintaining the object, but I certainly haven't abandoned it.

#2: also possible: I could output a list of possible moves (internally it would have to try everything, but no reason to make you do that)

#3: ooh, a bug! I'll fix it when I have a sec. Thank you for the report.

Checking back in. I've had a bad cold, always a good chance to catch up on rainy-day stuff.

#3 is fixed, nice bug, thanks. 

#2 is implemented -- basically I am just sending out a list of moves in coord notation (e.g. legalmoves b1d2 b1a3 b1c3 c1d2 c1e3 c1f4 c1g5 c1h6 d1d2 d1d3 d1d4 e1d2 g1f3 g1h3 a2a3 a2a4 b2b3 b2b4 c2c3 c2c4 e2e3 e2e4 f2f3 f2f4 g2g3 g2g4 h2h3 h2h4 d5d6 d5e6), not sure how useful that really is on balance, but I guess it's better than nothing.

#1 isn't done, I guess I'll do it both ways, your way and the reverse -- you input N (or maybe 'wn' and get any coords where a white knight is, you input r ('br'?) and get black rooks.

For some reason, I haven't seen your reply in May. Meanwhile, I've been using your object as a UI and recreated the chess logic in paralell in a Python server, which sends back a FEN string to update the UI. That's more flexible for the kind of work I want to do. However, I haven't been able to recreate the legal moves, so your update will be more than welcome to me.
I've been able to recreate in Python the behaviour of #1 in both ways.
I haven't been able yet to recreate legal moves (only pseudo-legal) nor check for check or checkmate status.

Alright, give it a shot (same location: http://expr-i0.net/uci.zip). The help file needs a general overhaul and I've been meaning to revisit the miserable Push stuff again, so this just updates the binaries. Quick documentation of the additions:

- 'legalmoves' will report all legal moves from the rightmost outlet as the symbol 'legalmoves' followed by a list of coordinates. Use 'legalmoves 1' if you want algebraic.
- 'pieceat <coord>' will report the piece at the provided coordinate (a1-h8). Pieces are denoted by a two-character name [w|b][k|q|r|b|n|p]. So the black king is 'bk' and a white pawn is 'wp'. If no piece is at the coordinate, 'none' will be returned. The output looks like 'pieceat <coord> <piecename>' (repeating the input and adding the piecename).
- 'coordsfor <piecename>' will report any coordinates occupied by the provided piece (piece names as above, e.g. 'bb' or 'wn'). Again, 'none' is used for a miss. The output is 'coordsfor <piecename> <coord1>/'none' [coord2...]' (repeating the input and adding the coords).

Sorry I haven't posted in a while. I was involved in another project.
I've just tested your object again. It seems that messages are understood by the object, because there's no error in the console. However, there's no output. As you see in the image, I've tried every message box in the image. There's no error, no output either. If I perform any valid movement, there's output in the console.
What could it be?

hi
i wanted to share a little patch here, that can insert pieces into uci via mouse (without editing the fen-code). for example to setup a chess problem etc. 
also it can show a list of the taken pieces.
have fun
klaus


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