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sellanraa

Anyone else using Expert Sleepers to interface MAX and modular synths? I'm asking because a few friends are trying to pool our knowledge and help each other develop projects, etc.. If anyone here is interested, I'm happy to direct you our way.

Anyone else using Expert Sleepers to interface MAX and modular synths?   I'm asking because a few friends are trying to pool our knowledge and help each other develop projects, etc.. If anyone here is interested, I'm happy to direct you our way.

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What are the chances...
I was just wondering if the Expert Sleepers ES-3 module could/would communicate with Max well.
I would love to hear what you and your friends have been toying around with.


I'm not sure anyone is using the ES-3 with MAX.  I just have been using an ES-8 for the past couple months and it has been great fun to tinker with.  I would imagine the ES-3 is similar though.

If you're interested, there's a bit of discussion starting at the Lines forum in a sub-category called 'studies'.  Join us if you'd like: http://llllllll.co/c/studies

I really feel like there have to be more people working with this combo, so I'd love to have a nexus for discussion.


I was just wondering if the Expert Sleepers ES-3 module could/would communicate with Max well.

I’m not sure anyone is using the ES-3 with MAX.

Nah, the ES-3 gets along with Max just fine. There isn't a lot to tell, though; just route a signal to the dac~ output that corresponds to the correct ADAT channel on your audio interface and you're good to go.

If you want more accuracy (e.g. for consistent v/oct pitch cv across multiple outputs), you can connect an ES-3 output to a voltmeter and bias/scale your signal in Max to get to a clean 0.1 = 1vdc or whatever. The bias/scale settings will be different for each channel of the ES-3, of course. It's easy enough to put together a simple calibration routine if you're going to be doing this regularly.

If you don't have a meter or want to interface with the ES-3 via MIDI note messages, I'm sure you could also host the Silent Way plugins in Max and use SW Voice Controller's calibration scheme, but I've never tried that personally.


Anyone using the ES-3/ES-6 combo to sequence an eurorack voice with Max and bringing back the audio in ? Any help would be appreciated.

I am, mostly in the context of Live. It works great but definitely is a bit of work to get a setup that you like and understand it all. What are you stuck on? I have an Es3, 5, 8, 8cv, and 6 here, running on a Mac.

I would like to sequence a basic modular synth voice with a simple max sequencer so from what I understand I send signal to the ES-3 using dac~and I bring signal back in max using adc~but how to send CV and Gate from Max ? 

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Hi, you need to use the encoder object from Expert Sleepers, and you also need to figure out how you want to work with that object because it expects a number representing the state of all the gates. I made a simple object that sits in front of mine allowing me to turn on and off gates with individiual 1/0 messages.  This object needs to be set to output to the dac channels that are multiplexing the gates, to this will be one pair of the set on the parent device (es-8 or 9). In the context of live, what works for me is having my sequencer on a track who's output is set to this pair (dac 9/10 in the picture below), and the gate output lives on that track. The other CV outs can be on other channels as needed and one can use send~/recieve~ or audio routing to send to them.  

I should probably make a video of this, the ones from expert sleepers aren't particularly detailed.

Here's my encoder containing object, the es5encoder~ is the extension you need from expert sleepers.


Wait, I dont have an ES-5, does this external is compatible with ES-3 ? Yes that's pretty complicated for my noobish max level I'm quite lost and even in the many videos on the subject of integrating Max and eurorack I can't find one about using a simple max sequencer to send CV/gate to a basic eurorack synth voice... Thanks for your help.

ah, my mistake. The ES-5 is a multiplexer specifically for gates. If you have an ES3, you can use that for gates too, but you will be using up a channel for each gate, and it's not something I've done. If you have the finances to do so, I would recommend the ES-5 as the way to get gate output!

Yeah I know this is possible to send CV AND gate from the ES-3, I just don't know how to generate a gate from a max sequencer, this is driving me insane...

I haven't done this personally, but I think all you need to is send a high signal out that output for gate = on. This thread seems to conclude that setting it at 8volts should be good.

https://modwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34859

You could look at the Ableton Live CV tools device and see what they are doing (perhaps with a multimeter...)

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ES-3/MOTU user here. I typically send the ES-3 my gates and modulations, reserving a few of my MOTU 8pre-ES's outputs for pitch CV as i find it slightly more accurate, but the ES-3 scales -1. - 1. perfectly to eurorack levels of -10v - 10v.  For gates, anything resembling a square wave is a gate. It could be an LFO, or just a ~sig recieving 1. and then 0. Send your ~DAC a signal at 1. and it's high (on), send 0. and it's low (off). 
Attenuate the output of your synth signal to line level and plug it into your audio interface's inputs, select the channel on ~adc and have fun!

Expert Sleepers + MAX +modular

goto10

I've got a project that's using Sick TiM581s and I was looking to rent some for development. Anyone know a place in the US that does? West Coast preferred?

Hey, all–
I've got a project that's using Sick TiM581s and I was looking to rent some for development. Anyone know a place in the US that does? West Coast preferred?

Hey, all–
I've got a project that's using Sick TiM581s and I was looking to rent some for development. Anyone know a place in the US that do

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drgoose

I am selling Max 6/MSP/Jitter with Gen and Cyclops license starting at $100, but willing to sell lower. Payment via PayPal. Contact jozue@pm.me if interested.

I am selling Max 6/MSP/Jitter with Gen and Cyclops license starting at $100, but willing to sell lower. Payment via PayPal. Contact jozue@pm

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sdrausina

hello everyone I am selling my license because I don't have time to study Max app (Ableton crossgrade)

my sale price 150 euro (20200411 purchased for 230 euros) sdrausina@gmail.com

hello everyone I am selling my license because I don't have time to study Max app (Ableton crossgrade)
my sale price 150 euro (20200411 purchased for 230 euros) sdrausina@gmail.com

hello everyone I am selling my license because I don't have time to study Max app (Ableton crossgrade)
my sale price 150 euro (20200411 purc

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I am interested. I've got Ableton 11 Suite with MaxForLive. This would grant full access to the standalone version of Max, correct?

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tmhglnd

I'm currently looking into eGPU's and was wondering if any of you have some (good/bad) experience using them in combination with Mac and Max8. I'm currently on OSX 10.12.6 (using Macbook 15" retina mid 2015), and I read that the eGPU's are only supported after 10.13.4+. There are some articles on how to get them going with older OSX versions (10.10-10.12), and also in combination with thunderbolt2 (instead of thunderbolt3). But does Max recognize the graphics card when doing so, or should I just upgrade to Mojave to save me a lot of headaches? Also trying to wrap my head around buying a separate enclosure + graphics card, or an all-in-one solution (like the sonnet breakaway or the blackmagic egpu). All suggestions/tips are welcome, thanks in advance!

I looked around on the forum but couldn't really find anything helpful so far.

https://egpu.io/setup-guide-external-graphics-card-mac/

Some articles:
https://egpu.io/setup-guide-external-graphics-card-mac/ 
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT208544 

Hey all! 
I'm currently looking into eGPU's and was wondering if any of you have some (good/bad) experience using them in combination with M

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There are some eGPU benchmarks here (use command/control + F inside the page to search for "eGPU", it's a long thread...):
https://cycling74.com/forums/v2-benchmarking-jitters-cpugpu-performance-on-your-computer-v2
 

Thanks, that is a nice thread and a good benchmark test!

That patch was built by me just as a framework proposal for the community to build several benchmarks focusing on specific things (CPU, GPU geometry, GPU shaders, video playback, physics, render to texture, etc). It is in serious need of an overhaul... but meanwhile it's better than nothing...

Okay, well it is indeed better then nothing and it gives me some more insights in the current performance of my macbook compared to other graphics cards and especially the tested Blackmagic eGPU (which, at the moment, does not really seem worth the money if i compare it with other cards). At least thanks for sharing.

I been using a blackmagic egpu and thunderbolt 3 + Macos Mojave 
it runs very well, performance with jitter goes beyond what my mac could do before.


Thanks, that is good to hear. Would you mind running that benchmark from the link above and share your results? It might not be the best test, but for now it is all there is.

Hi everyone,
im also interested by that thread. 

Would anyone have good e-GPU configuration recommandation or feedback for mbp thunderbolt3 ?

 im looking for one that's really pushing jitter performance, with reasonable price (obviously :) ), and that will take advantage of the new  openGL3 
thx!

A month ago i used the Sonnet Puck Breakaway eGPU (tb3) with Radeon RX 570 in combination with a Mac Mini.  The performance was definitely an improvement compared to the integrated gpu from the mac mini. Not to expansive and very portable. But also not so sturdy, after a flight with lots of turbulence during landing the eGPU did not work anymore. So a flightcase with a shockmount or something alike is probably recommended when traveling by plane.

mid 2015 retina here BUT thundebolt 2 only (20Gb/s)
I'm devastated 

https://egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/thunderbolt-2-fast-enough-to-handle-gpu/ helped to walk into a rays of sun of hope :-)

eGPU Experience with OSX 10.12 and Thunderbolt 2

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