lazy circuit

I have Monome Grid 64 and I connected it to max msp.

I want to switch presets in my patch, using "Preset" object by pressing buttons on Grid64. Please tell me how to do this?

 They use the "matrixctrl" object. How can I do the same thing but with a Preset?

Hi all.

I have Monome Grid 64 and I connected it to max msp.

I want to switch presets in my patch, using "Preset" object by pressing...

switch-presets-using-monome-grid

Switch Presets using Monome Grid

Pierre Alexandre Tremblay

I've bought a Xbos wireless controller as it was said to work wired too - which is sadly not true. Bluetooth during gigs is not an option, let's not derail this thread :)

I bought it because I'm looking for a high resolution double-joystick that works with HI. The old macally I have has large dead zone and not really great resolution...

any experienced user here having a pointer to help?

hello all
I've bought a Xbos wireless controller as it was said to work wired too - which is sadly not true. 

high-resolution-wired-gamepad-on-macos

Sorry, unfortunately, with newer versions of Mac OS and Apple Silicon, I haven't found any other way to use the XBox controllers wired.

My current favorite wired controller on Mac is the PS 5 Dualsense controller. The joysticks and triggers are definitely not as high resolution as the xbox controllers (8bit instead of 16bit), but you might be able to low pass filter the data stream to get higher interpolated values as you move them which might be enough for your needs.

And unlike the xbox controllers the dualsense also has gyro, accelerometers, and a multitouch pad for additional gestural control, which can be useful.

Thanks for the quick reply! The Macally has 8 bit, and in this case (even with lag that I modulate) it is still too jittery (hommage intended :) ) - those neural net mapping can be subtle beasts...

I wonder if there is a gaming site that could compare wired usb dual joystick resolution - one would think that the gaming world must be as geek as us if not more with their pro gamers and such... although maybe 8-bit is enough for them. Audio has always been very discreminatory...

ok with a bit of love, this driver works!
https://github.com/noah-nuebling/mac-gamepad-driver
now, one needs to compile and sign but hey... nothing impossible.

high resolution wired gamepad on macos

derf07

My question concerns the codes that are attached to the messages. Are these patch codes?

max-patcher-1

These are patches (usually copy compressed). Copy that , open Max and choose from the file menu "new from clipboard"


I use Max for Live 8.5.5 in Ableton Live 11
hello. Thank you.
This is the problem.  When I use the "new from clipboard" command, a dark window opens; it contains the code. Do you need to have purchased the full version of Max?



I have attached to the code the beginning of the code and the end of the code.
If I select the File menu option, "New from clipboard", a dark window appears. We read the code there. On the other hand, I don't know how to find a MAX code from a text.If a moderator comes across my message, please tell me how to do it.

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volkmar

I just got my hand on an Icon Platform M+ controller. Since it works really well for me in DAWs like Reaper and Live, it would be great to be able to integrate it into my Max workflow, too.

Searching the net didn't turn up the finished abstractions I had dared to hope for.

But, before setting out to building this myself and not really believing that nobody ever tried to use this controller with Max (not just by MIDI mapping in the patch), I wanted to ask, if someone out there has started or even finished this project and would be willing to share his or her insights.

Hi everyone,
I just got my hand on an Icon Platform M+ controller. Since it works really well for me in DAWs like Reaper and Live, it would be great to be able to integrate it into my Max workflow, too.
Searching the net didn't turn up the finished abstractions I had dared to hope for.
But, before setting out to building this myself and not really believing that nobody ever tried to use this controller with Max (not just by MIDI mapping in the patch), I wanted to ask, if someone out there has started or even finished this project and would be willing to share his or her insights.
Best,
Volkmar


Hi everyone,
I just got my hand on an Icon Platform M+ controller. Since it works really well for me in DAWs like Reaper and Live, it would 

icon-platform-m-abstraction


the mackie hui and mackie control protocols are simple, but as far as i know you would need to have a max external specific for the usb driver of the icon in order to "get in touch".

anyone knows more?



I'm interested in this too. Just got one for a project and while I'm sure using it as a controller will be easy, I'm imagining two-way control with the faders will be less so. I'll be doing my own investigations and will share anything I can find, but if anyone else has already done this work, please let us know!

This is what I ended up building.
Seems to work well and might be a good start..


Wow! Nice work! I already just now worked out all I needed (in case anyone else is paying attention), that it's simply a matter of using bendin and bendout on channels 1-9 to communicate both ways with the faders (and this can be changed to CCs if preferred in the software), but this complete implementation will I'm sure come in handy. Thanks!

Icon Platform M+ abstraction?

Andrew Blanton

I'm bringing mocap data into max from a neuron mocap system. Their software broadcasts bvh data via UDP on port 7002. If I use [udpreceive] I get the error 'OSC Bad message name string.' As far as I know, bvh is nothing close to OSC formatting. I also tried udpreceive with the CNMAT flag, that shows up as full packets, but I believe that's just placing a wrapper around my incoming bvh. Is there a good way to view this data in max?

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I'm bringing mocap data into max from a neuron mocap system. Their software broadcasts bvh data via UDP on port 7002. If I use  [udpreceive]  I  get the error 'OSC Bad message name string.' As far as I know, bvh is nothing close to OSC formatting. I also  tried udpreceive  with the CNMAT flag, that shows up as full packets, but I believe that's just placing a wrapper around my incoming bvh. Is there a good way to view this data in max?

Hi All,
I'm bringing mocap data into max from a neuron mocap system. Their software broadcasts bvh data via UDP on port 7002. If I use  [udp

udp-bvh-data-into-max

Page 80 is getting closer here: https://neuronmocap.com/system/files/software/Axis%20Neuron%20User%20Manual_V3.8.1.5.pdf

Also, this looks close: http://adsr.jp/2012/04/perfume_grobal_site_project.php

you may want to check [sadam.udpReceiver] from the Sadam Library (available in package manager), that should be able to receive raw UDP messages.

Ah! I forgot about  sadam! I will give that a try.

Old post, but I'm trying the same thing here, I'm able to get the raw BVH in max with sadam.udpReceiver but can't figure out how to map it to jit.gl.model... Anyone succeeded? 

I reverse-engineered this a while back. The BVH stream describes the joint rotations of the skeletal model, arranged in a hierarchical tree structure starting from the hips. The format assumes a header file that contains the lengths of the bones of the skeleton. The stream describes the Euler angles of the individual joints. Each frame comprises something like a list of 182 values.

The first two values of the stream are the header values [0, char00] followed by the hips' [xPosition, yPosition, zPosition, xRotation, yRotation, zRotation]. From there, the stream is parsed as x,y,z rotation triples in the following order:
right upper leg, right leg, right foot,
left upper leg, left leg, left foot,
spine, spine1, spine2, spine3, neck, head,
right shoulder, right arm, right forearm, right hand, {right hand fingers (19x3=57 values)},
left shoulder, left arm, left forearm, left hand, {left hand fingers (19x3=57 values)}
...followed by || to end the stream. 

Confused? Me too, so I made a patch that tries to organize the values in the shape of a skeleton that I call "Max Man". Good luck, Jeremy

Super thanks, looks like something I can use!

UDP BVH Data into Max

sellanraa

Anyone else using Expert Sleepers to interface MAX and modular synths? I'm asking because a few friends are trying to pool our knowledge and help each other develop projects, etc.. If anyone here is interested, I'm happy to direct you our way.

Anyone else using Expert Sleepers to interface MAX and modular synths?   I'm asking because a few friends are trying to pool our knowledge and help each other develop projects, etc.. If anyone here is interested, I'm happy to direct you our way.

expert-sleepers-max-modular

What are the chances...
I was just wondering if the Expert Sleepers ES-3 module could/would communicate with Max well.
I would love to hear what you and your friends have been toying around with.


I'm not sure anyone is using the ES-3 with MAX.  I just have been using an ES-8 for the past couple months and it has been great fun to tinker with.  I would imagine the ES-3 is similar though.

If you're interested, there's a bit of discussion starting at the Lines forum in a sub-category called 'studies'.  Join us if you'd like: http://llllllll.co/c/studies

I really feel like there have to be more people working with this combo, so I'd love to have a nexus for discussion.


I was just wondering if the Expert Sleepers ES-3 module could/would communicate with Max well.

I’m not sure anyone is using the ES-3 with MAX.

Nah, the ES-3 gets along with Max just fine. There isn't a lot to tell, though; just route a signal to the dac~ output that corresponds to the correct ADAT channel on your audio interface and you're good to go.

If you want more accuracy (e.g. for consistent v/oct pitch cv across multiple outputs), you can connect an ES-3 output to a voltmeter and bias/scale your signal in Max to get to a clean 0.1 = 1vdc or whatever. The bias/scale settings will be different for each channel of the ES-3, of course. It's easy enough to put together a simple calibration routine if you're going to be doing this regularly.

If you don't have a meter or want to interface with the ES-3 via MIDI note messages, I'm sure you could also host the Silent Way plugins in Max and use SW Voice Controller's calibration scheme, but I've never tried that personally.


Anyone using the ES-3/ES-6 combo to sequence an eurorack voice with Max and bringing back the audio in ? Any help would be appreciated.

I am, mostly in the context of Live. It works great but definitely is a bit of work to get a setup that you like and understand it all. What are you stuck on? I have an Es3, 5, 8, 8cv, and 6 here, running on a Mac.

I would like to sequence a basic modular synth voice with a simple max sequencer so from what I understand I send signal to the ES-3 using dac~and I bring signal back in max using adc~but how to send CV and Gate from Max ? 

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Hi, you need to use the encoder object from Expert Sleepers, and you also need to figure out how you want to work with that object because it expects a number representing the state of all the gates. I made a simple object that sits in front of mine allowing me to turn on and off gates with individiual 1/0 messages.  This object needs to be set to output to the dac channels that are multiplexing the gates, to this will be one pair of the set on the parent device (es-8 or 9). In the context of live, what works for me is having my sequencer on a track who's output is set to this pair (dac 9/10 in the picture below), and the gate output lives on that track. The other CV outs can be on other channels as needed and one can use send~/recieve~ or audio routing to send to them.  

I should probably make a video of this, the ones from expert sleepers aren't particularly detailed.

Here's my encoder containing object, the es5encoder~ is the extension you need from expert sleepers.


Wait, I dont have an ES-5, does this external is compatible with ES-3 ? Yes that's pretty complicated for my noobish max level I'm quite lost and even in the many videos on the subject of integrating Max and eurorack I can't find one about using a simple max sequencer to send CV/gate to a basic eurorack synth voice... Thanks for your help.

ah, my mistake. The ES-5 is a multiplexer specifically for gates. If you have an ES3, you can use that for gates too, but you will be using up a channel for each gate, and it's not something I've done. If you have the finances to do so, I would recommend the ES-5 as the way to get gate output!

Yeah I know this is possible to send CV AND gate from the ES-3, I just don't know how to generate a gate from a max sequencer, this is driving me insane...

I haven't done this personally, but I think all you need to is send a high signal out that output for gate = on. This thread seems to conclude that setting it at 8volts should be good.

https://modwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34859

You could look at the Ableton Live CV tools device and see what they are doing (perhaps with a multimeter...)

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ES-3/MOTU user here. I typically send the ES-3 my gates and modulations, reserving a few of my MOTU 8pre-ES's outputs for pitch CV as i find it slightly more accurate, but the ES-3 scales -1. - 1. perfectly to eurorack levels of -10v - 10v.  For gates, anything resembling a square wave is a gate. It could be an LFO, or just a ~sig recieving 1. and then 0. Send your ~DAC a signal at 1. and it's high (on), send 0. and it's low (off). 
Attenuate the output of your synth signal to line level and plug it into your audio interface's inputs, select the channel on ~adc and have fun!

Expert Sleepers + MAX +modular

frank desben

I am looking for motion sensors that work with max. 

They should be more or less plug and play, work with wifi,

And I would like to connect 6 simultaneously to a computer.

I am looking for motion sensors that work with max. 
They should be more or less plug and play, work with wifi,
have accelerometers and gyroscopes.
And I would like to connect 6 simultaneously to a computer.

Anybody know a good solution for this?
Thank you

All the best
Frank

Hi all,
I am looking for motion sensors that work with max. 
They should be more or less plug and play, work with wifi,
have accelerometers 

motion-sensors-with-wifi-accelerometers-and-gyroscopes

Dear Frank,  
  did you find a solution for your question? I'm asking myself quite the same as your question: I would like to connect a mostly plug&play accelererometer for a project. Thank you!
Alberto


The bitalino r-iot is nice, but it looks it reached EOL.
https://ismm.ircam.fr/riot/ 

Motion Sensors with wifi, accelerometers and gyroscopes

bruno

There was a great patch called aka.leapmotion. Unfortunately this doesn't work anymore - is there a new way of using the Leapmotion device ?

There was a great patch called aka.leapmotion. 

leap-motion-1

Not exactly what you’re looking for, but MIMI Glover is how I get Leap data into Max.
https://mimugloves.com/glover/

Oh - I just realized, that Glover doesn't work with Monterey - well, I think, I have to wait for an update. 

Does anyone know if Glover is compatible with the Ultraleap 3Di? I've emailed Mimu a couple of times and no reply.

you could try this: https://maxforlive.com/library/device/4455/max-4-leap. It's still available for download.

Did anyone have any luck with ultraleap 3Di?

I tried https://maxforlive.com/library/device/4455/max-4-leap - but it says, that is it no more supported - or did I misunderstand something?

Hi everybody, 
Like many, I was looking for a new version of the Aka-leap object, for using the Leapmotion in max with the Monterey OS.  All the solutions suggested in the replies don't seem to work.
Thanks
M

You should make leap-motion  work in monterey first. There are no issues with max externals. There is a workaround for leap-motion driver, you can google it at ultra leap forum.

Leap motion

Ewoud Van Eetvelde

Hi, recently I obtained an OffGrid wireless midi controller device from birdkids. 

It looks like a very practical and small device for controlling and triggering stuff in Max, with MPE implementations, a built-in gyroscope and responsive LED's. 

Yet the software is programmed in a way that it is NOT a blank state: 

there are prebuilt presets with responsive LEDs for those prebuilt states. I mailed with the developers and they would like to have a blank state, but then they would need to redevelop the software. Maybe someone in the Max community would be interested in this very portable and handy item and be up for checking out an alternative software to make a very useful open (Max friendly) blank state firmware? So there is an option to build your own presets and reactive LED's.

Hi, recently I obtained an OffGrid wireless midi controller device from birdkids. 
It looks like a very practical and small device for controlling and triggering stuff in Max, with MPE implementations, a built-in gyroscope and responsive LED's. 
https://www.birdkids.io/

Yet the software is programmed in a way that it is NOT a blank state: 
there are prebuilt presets with responsive LEDs for those prebuilt states.  I mailed with the developers and they would like to have a blank state, but then they would need  to redevelop the software. Maybe someone in the Max community would be interested in this very portable and handy item and be up for checking out an alternative software to make a very useful open (Max friendly) blank state firmware? So there is an option to build your own presets and reactive LED's.  

Let me know if you have a comment!
Cheers, ewoud

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My thought is - if you invested 5 $ in touchOSC it would have any configuration that you need on your phone.
Even run max on 60 $ windows tablet that sends OSC is cheaper option.

Why should one bother to provide custom firmware to such device ?
I guess that company would not post details about processor inside, which would probably be something like ESP32 based for 5 - 6 $.


https://www.birdkids.io/birdkids-product-support

To customize the mapping on a Factory Preset or create new presets from a Factory Template, please proceed to the WebEditor.

Yes, that is a very good thought, I'm am checking out touch osc on my iphone as we speak. 
Yet, the birdkids device is very light, compact and well built, that's why it looks like a very 
handy device to program with the use of a blank state. The webeditor is works to adjust
the pre-built presets they made, I also had a different idea about that first, but no : )

Small wireless midi controler: OffGrid and a 'blank' state

Joe Kaplan

I've been playing with bluetooth speakers as a cheap way make spatialized sound in a popup installation (i.e. inexpensive, lightweight, easy to setup and teardown). I'm not too concerned about pristine sound quality, and so far the latency they introduce has not been an issue. 

What I've done so far has worked so well that I'm interested in scaling it.

I'm running into a couple issues with that.

The number of speakers I can connect seems to max out at 3. When I connect the 4th bluetooth speaker the third one disconnects. The 

 says "The official Bluetooth specifications say seven is the maximum number of Bluetooth devices that can be connected to your Mac at once. 

However, three to four devices is a practical limit, depending on the types of devices used."

Does anybody have any insight into what the limiting factor is here? Or how I could expand it? I thought maybe if I add additional Bluetooth USB dongles I might get more bandwidth, but that doesn't seem to change the behaviour. My macbook doesn't seem to be utilizing the additional Bluetooth interfaces.

 instead of the onboard bluetooth controller, but the command didn't seem to have any effect.

I'm curious if anybody has ever tried to do something like this, or has any insight into the technical limitations. I can imagine plugging in a USB hub with 6 usb bluetooth dongles attached and being able to connect 15-20 bluetooth speakers, and then creating an aggregate device so I can use Max to send sound to each of them independently.

It'd be fun to make this work with cheap bluetooth speakers instead of having to spend $$$$++ on a gigantic audio interface and wireless setup.

I've been playing with bluetooth speakers as a cheap way make spatialized sound in a popup installation (i.e. inexpensive, lightweight, easy to setup and teardown).  I'm not too concerned about pristine sound quality, and so far the latency they introduce has not been an issue. 


The number of speakers I can connect seems to max out at 3.  When I connect the 4th bluetooth speaker the third one disconnects.  The  Apple Support Page says "The official Bluetooth specifications say seven is the maximum number of Bluetooth devices that can be connected to your Mac at once. 
 However, three to four devices is a practical limit, depending on the types of devices used."


Does anybody have any insight into what the limiting factor is here?  Or how I could expand it?  I thought maybe if I add additional Bluetooth USB dongles I might get more bandwidth, but that doesn't seem to change the behaviour.  My macbook doesn't seem to be utilizing the additional Bluetooth interfaces.

I tried forcing OS X to use the dongle instead of the onboard bluetooth controller, but the command didn't seem to have any effect.

I'm curious if anybody has ever tried to do something like this, or has any insight into the technical limitations.  I can imagine plugging in a USB hub with 6 usb bluetooth dongles attached and being able to connect 15-20 bluetooth speakers, and then creating an aggregate device so I can use Max to send sound to each of them independently. 

I've been playing with bluetooth speakers as a cheap way make spatialized sound in a popup installation (i.e. 

Cycling '74 Forums

this should be easy, or not ? monome, touch OSC, anything that has matrix based GUI translates into x * number of columns + y. that...

ok with a bit of love, this driver works! https://github.com/noah-nuebling/mac-gamepad-driver now, one needs to compile and sign but hey......

I have attached to the code the beginning of the code and the end of the code. If I select the File menu option, "New from clipboard", a...

Wow! Nice work! I already just now worked out all I needed (in case anyone else is paying attention), that it's simply a matter of using...

Hi, Super thanks, looks like something I can use!

ES-3/MOTU user here. I typically send the ES-3 my gates and modulations, reserving a few of my MOTU 8pre-ES's outputs for pitch CV as i...

The bitalino r-iot is nice, but it looks it reached EOL. https://ismm.ircam.fr/riot/

You should make leap-motion work in monterey first. There are no issues with max externals. There is a workaround for leap-motion driver,...

Yes, that is a very good thought, I'm am checking out touch osc on my iphone as we speak. Yet, the birdkids device is very light, compact...

I've been playing with bluetooth speakers as a cheap way make spatialized sound in a popup installation (i.e.