leaozinho

I have a M4L device that I built to be able to send different data to multiple MIDI channels.  Stupidly, I didn't realize that when you put a device on a channel in Live, that channel can only output MIDI to one MIDI channel.  I've heard there are M4L devices that can send out data to multiple channels without using multiple instances on different tracks - does anyone know how to do this?

I have a M4L device that I built to be able to send different data to multiple MIDI channels.  Stupidly, I didn't realize that when you put 

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use send or forward and receive without "---" 

Thanks, Double_UG, though I can't really figure out what you mean here - could you elaborate a little more?

Maybe I should be more clear: my M4L device outputs different MIDI data on 4 different channels that will be routed to 4 different instruments (e.g. Channel 10 outputs data to Instrument 1, Channel 11 outputs data to Instrument 2, etc.).  The problem is that all this MIDI data from M4L gets routed through one channel in Ableton, so it's impossible to split it into separate streams to get to the individual instruments.

send your Midi with "send" or "forward" to the  a receiver m4l device. Put the receiver device in front of the instrument.  The midi is send in Max from sender to reciver device. 

@DOUBLE_UG  Oh man, thank you so much for those devices. I couldn't find anything on maxforlive.com. The're so useful. Have a nice day :)

Using a M4L device to send data to multiple Midi channels

Piet Somville

Hi people ! 
I really want to learn max so, besides watching/reading tutoriel I'm trying to make my own first synth (to have some king of goal). 

So, as you can guess, I've some trouble x) 

- As you can see on my patch, I would like to apply a filter enveloppe (in the right down corner), the think is i would like to choose the intensity of the enveloppe on the filter (as the Env. Mod. on the TB303 but i find no way to do it). 
I think that right now, the enveloppe is playing at 100% on the filter all the time, I want this to be optional. 

- On the top of the patch, I added the object : / 127. on "midi-in" velocity out, I did it without understanding why I did this... If someone can give me more details ? 

- Last, if you have any other suggestion of how making this patch better, I will be really happy to read you ! 

Thanks a lot ! 
Regards, 
Piet 



MyTB303.amxd

Hi people ! 
I really want to learn max so, besides watching/reading tutoriel I'm trying to make my own first synth (to have some king of ... 

my-first-tb303

MY FIRST TB303

sotokemp

Good morning all,
I have music on different tracks, and two tracks with Max patches, when I run them on audio I hear them but when I want to record them they don't go to the master
Can someone please help me...
:(

Screenshot 2022-10-05 at 07.52.26.png

Good morning all,
I have music on different tracks, and two tracks with Max patches, when I run them on audio I hear them but when I want ... 

record-output-patch

record output patch

Sabina

Hello, 
I need to freeze the patch so the js code will be embedded in the device.



freeze-button-greyed-out-in-inspector

https://docs.cycling74.com/max7/vignettes/live_freezing 

freeze button greyed out , in inspector

schlam

Hello 
Sorry if it's simple but I don't manage totally to achieve that.

I can get all the device of a track, and get then the id of each parameters.
I can then with "can_have_chains" know wich device is a rack and retrieve the devices nested inside it.
ok
But how can I do the same with rack in rack.., when I don't know the depth of the rack/rack/rack hierarchy ?

.At the end I just try to have a list with all parameters of a track.


The menu "paste from/max for live/Live api chooser/browse device parameter" do the trick easily, but I don't know JS at all and I don't manage to bang this snippet in a way it will output the whole list of track's parameters...

Hello 
Sorry if it's simple but I don't manage totally to achieve that.
I can get all the device of a track, and get then the id of each ... 

how-to-get-all-the-parameters-id-of-all-parameters-of-a-track-even-those-nested-in-a-rack-in-a-rack-in-a-rack-etc

how to get all the parameters id of all parameters of a track (even those nested in a rack, in a rack, in a rack etc..)

stephane moreau

I explain myself a bit more :
I have a floating window with a incdec object that inc dec the zoom

problem : beyond 120% scrollbars appear and I must scroll to go the 0 0 coordinate... Is there a way to keep focus on the origin 0 0 ?


Hi,

I explain myself a bit more :
I have a floating window with a incdec object that inc dec the zoom
problem : beyond 120% scrollbars ... 

how-to-set-the-view-of-a-floating-window-to-its-origin

zoomfactor is rather useless as it produces unwanted results like what you describe.
you need to restore window coordinates
but also resize window to show the entire patch - without scrollbars.

https://cycling74.com/forums/resize-and-center-windows

try ps.window_zoom v2.zip
before touching anything limit floatbox to something like 0.5
otherwise you might land in minus zoom range

this is old stuff , before all toolbars were added to Max, so you need to deal with that too.
for your needs one could get rid of window live resize-rezoom and optimise it a bit,
like this :

Thanks a lot !!
I'll give it a look later. It's been way too much for my brain today. I either leave it for now or call my cocaine supplier if I really wanna keep going on..



How to set the view of a floating window to its origin ?

naaman

im trying to observe track meters in grouped tracks
with a m4l device on the group channel

the device control all the tracks under the group track
and im trying to have the tracks meters on the device work
while the tracks are folded under the group.

but when i fold the group the meters dont work , only when the group is unfolded.
i used [live.observer output_meter_level] to get meter values.
is there any way it can work?

observe-folded-meters

hey,
so i was looking in all mixer devices out there and they all seems to unable to observe folded tracks meters...
no fix for that one?
is it up to ableton to improve the api to get the folded meters ?
its probbly for cpu reduce but it is kind of limiting u cant call them with m4l


Still this issue happens.
Please fix it C74...

7 years later...
Any news on that matter ?


Same limitation goes with instruments inside a rack : I can only retrieve output_level_meter from the whole track but not from each indivudual instrument inside the rack

observe folded meters

Darling Lee

Hi,
    I want to lock my program with password to prevent editing by others,is there any way to achieve this function?If so, I hope you can tell me. Thank you！If not, I hope this feature can be added in future versions.

Hi,
    I want to lock my program with password to prevent editing by others,is there any way to achieve this function?If so, I hope you ... 

is-there-any-way-to-lock-my-program-with-password-to-prevent-editing-by-others

Don't have a direct answer to your question but If you make a standalone out of your patch users won't be able to edit it.

one can hack and edit  collectives and also standalone mxf files


to be exact... you can hack everything.


Is there any way to lock my program with password to prevent editing by others?

chapelier fou

I'd like to get the currently playing clip name. I have no problem getting the name of a session clip, but I want to keep track of the currently playing clip, either in session or in arrangement.
The only way I see for now to get the clip currently playing in arrangement would be to get all arrangement clip ids, get the current transport time, and check for all of them if the current time fits into the starting and end points. That can't be that twisted, can it ?  
Any help ? 

I'd like to get the currently playing clip name. I have no problem getting the name of a session clip, but I want to keep track of the curre

get-playing-clip-name-also-in-arrangement

Did you ever end up figuring this out? I have the same question.

Hi, i have a very useful patch made by Julien Bayle, 
hope that help you

Get playing clip name. Also in arrangement. 

Gabriel Tripp

 Video of the problem in action after applying Source Audio's fix.  Notice the button coming out of metro, and how it just stops registering bangs and the midi output stops in the recorded loop.

Forgive me if I'm missing something obvious, I'm quite new and I've been trying to solve this for 2 days now.
I've included my Audio Status settings just in case.

Desired Behaviour:  I want metro to only run while receiving Note-on, and I want to reset its count on Note-off, to drive a counter which in turn drives a grid.

Issue: metro will randomly stop sending bangs after stopping and then starting.  It will always send at least one  bang. 
The issue is inconsistent, but seems to always start occurring some time after the patch has been opened in max device editor.  Sometimes it will occur on a fresh load.

Steps Taken:
- I've confirmed the issue is with metro by verifying what is being sent to and from metro with messages and bangs
- restarting Max, restarting ableton, restarting PC
- configuring metro with as every combination of @active @quantize and @transport
- lots of experimentation with various on-load bangs like loadbang, live.thisdevice.  Even when I can keep the metro running and just gate the makenote with velocity it behaves inconsistently (and I don't want metro to always scroll through the grid)

What's really making me tear my hair out though is that this was originally working at the beginning of the week.  It's leaving a bad taste in my mouth with how inconsistent Max's behavior and I don't really know how to troubleshoot this further.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

metro stopping randomly

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 Video of the problem in action after applying Source Audio's fix.  Notice the button coming out of metro, and how it just stops register

metro-randomly-stops-while-startingstopping-with-velocity

Thank you.  I was hopeful at first but unfortunately this doesn't work.  I made a video demonstrating the problem, I'll add it to the opening post as well

Edit: yes I know sel 0 is going into a different inlet on counter; it doesn't matter which inlet it's in.  The problem is metro, you can see its bang out and how it just stops running.

I am not using Live and can't help you with that.
All I can say is that in Max metro never has such problems,
and that you are somehow overloading Live.,
probably with too fast messages to GUI objects.
Nothing to do with metro itself, I guess.



Yes, you are doing something wrong somewhere. I use metro (and metros underlying clock mechanism) extensively in Live with Scheme for Max and it's definitely solid, reliable, and consistent - if you aren't somehow making the patch misbehave elsewhere. Don't get confused by misinformation on "how bad Max's metro is" online - there are a lot of people who happily repeat something they've heard that goes back to pre Max 5. Metro was overhauled several Max versions ago.

Can it be confirmed that I have this wired correctly then?  Should this work the way I want it to?

What should work ?
Post the patch so that one can see what could be  wrong,
It is no help at all to watch videos.


The patch is posted in the opening post...  I thought that's what you edited to post your screenshot.  Nothing has changed.  That patch is making metro stop sending bangs as shown in my video.  I want to know if it's because I wired it wrong, because if it's correct, I need to open a bug report.

I corrected your patch only to make metro start,  stop and reset
correctly.
Your original patch has double notes on every start etc.

That hickups are not caused by metro, but by some other things you do.
Make new live set, load only that metro patch, don't drive anything with it, just let it run.
Than report if you still have problems.


alright, I'll try this.  Thanks for your help btw, this is very frustrating.

I rebuilt the patch from scratch making sure I only used screenshots so that everything would be fresh.  I'm testing by leaving it to record midi output for long stretches of time.  So far, so good.  It still misbehaves if max is open.  Hoping the problem doesn't return.

I wish I understood what was causing it, but thanks again.

Alright, here is my current patch, remade from scratch in a new Live session with nothing else in it.  Metro is still randomly stopping.  


It started dropping after about 12 minutes of continuous use this time.  

Edit: on reload, it's stopping after the first loop.

Assuming the patch should work, should my next step be a bug report?

I’ve noticed some similar  behavior recently. .  Metro will occasionally stop or attached counters will start outputting random numbers. For me everything works fine in session view though, no problems at all until I switch to arrangement. 

At least it's not just me then.  I work almost exclusively in arrangement though.

It only started happening to me in the last few days, I’d be surprised if it wasn’t a recent update bug.  I’m sure it’ll get sorted out. 

Set up a full bug report, hopefully it'll help.  I think I updated recently (before it started) so ideally it's just a bug in the latest version.

metro is only one of several objects that can produce bangs quantized to live transport.
you could replace it with  plugphasor~ and rate~ for example , and use
gate to pass bangs on note on.
running exactly this in parallel will tell you if metro is really buggy.
With exactly this I mean don't hang any other objects to it.


I believe I will have to go this way just to get back to making the patch, thanks for the example, makes sense.

Finally set up your example Source Audio, and I am indeed receiving smooth counts from plugphasor vs inconsistent results from metro.  Someone reached out to me with their bug report from a few versions back with the same issue; specifically metro breaking while ableton is in arrangement view and looping, so I'm wondering if that made it into the newest version.  I'm testing it and have a ticket open now.  Thanks again for explaining how to convert a phasor to bangs!

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Using a M4L device to send data to multiple Midi channels

@DOUBLE_UG Oh man, thank you so much for those devices. I couldn't find anything on maxforlive.com. The're so useful. Have a nice day :)

MY FIRST TB303

Hi people ! I really want to learn max so, besides watching/reading tutoriel I'm trying to make my own first synth (to have some king of ...

record output patch

Good morning all, I have music on different tracks, and two tracks with Max patches, when I run them on audio I hear them but when I want ...

freeze button greyed out , in inspector

Answer : https://docs.cycling74.com/max7/vignettes/live_freezing

how to get all the parameters id of all parameters of a track (even those nested in a rack, in a rack, in a rack etc..)

Hello Sorry if it's simple but I don't manage totally to achieve that. I can get all the device of a track, and get then the id of each ...

How to set the view of a floating window to its origin ?

Thanks a lot !! I'll give it a look later. It's been way too much for my brain today.

observe folded meters

7 years later... Any news on that matter ? Same limitation goes with instruments inside a rack : I can only retrieve output_level_meter ...

Is there any way to lock my program with password to prevent editing by others?

to be exact... you can hack everything.

Get playing clip name. Also in arrangement.

Hi, i have a very useful patch made by Julien Bayle, hope that help you

Metro randomly stops while starting/stopping with velocity

Finally set up your example Source Audio, and I am indeed receiving smooth counts from plugphasor vs inconsistent results from metro.