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hello folks! i'm working on an m4l MIDI device that uses plugphasor~ and rate~ (in "lock" sync mode) to derive what 

 be sample-accurate timing over the course of an arbitrary number of bars (4, 8, 16, etc).

however, using rate~ in combination with plugphasor~ to create a master phasor of a length longer than 1 beat introduces a problem where rate~ wants to pick up from where it left off when transport stops and starts again.

i've tried using the "transport active" flag from plugsync~ to tell rate~ to reset, but this still causes erratic behaviour where rate~ sometimes begins a new cycle on the second beat (shown in blue), or resets to a different point in its cycle (shown in red). i assume this is because plugsync~ is outputting data at event rate (?) while plugphasor~ is synchronised at audio rate...

hello folks! i'm working on an m4l MIDI device that uses plugphasor~ and rate~ (in "lock" sync mode) to derive what should be...

synchronising-rate-with-plugphasor

Synchronising rate~ with plugphasor~

KLEROS

I'm experiencing some issues with having a pfft~ subpatch inside a Max4Live patch, and I'm not sure what the root of the problem is. My guess at the moment is just having this pfft~ subpatch, since I have never had any problems with my other patches or even having a poly~ subpatch. 

Both the main patch (.amxd) and the subpatch (.maxpat) are in the same folder: /Ableton/User Library/Presets/Audio Effects/ Max Audio Effects/

The Max4Live Patch is frozen, but I cannot freeze the subpatch. The freeze sign is greyed out since the format is .maxpat. 

Maybe there's something wrong with my patching. I don't have much experience with pfft~ so I'm using this patch from a lesson as a tryout.

Hi everyone,

I'm experiencing some issues with having a pfft~ subpatch inside a Max4Live patch, and I'm not sure what the root of the...

problems-with-pfft-in-max4live

Problems with pfft~ in Max4Live

Darling Lee

Please fix this two bugs regarding the vst~ object: I am using an M4L plugin with a vst~ object in Ableton Live. When I load Kontakt into this vst~ object within M4L and load some sound libraries in Kontakt, if I write some automation controls (e.g., CC) in the track and playback, it consumes an extremely high amount of CPU. This leads to severe UI lag in Ableton Live during playback, and the audio may also break up as a result. Additionally, after I save this Live set and reopen it, the sound libraries in Kontakt within the vst~ object do not reload—only an empty shell of Kontakt remains! These two issues did not exist in Max 8. It has been so long since Max 9 was released, and these problems still haven't been fixed. I am utterly disappointed and frustrated! Below is the patcher I used for testing:

Please fix this two bugs regarding the vst~ object: I am using an M4L plugin with a vst~ object in Ableton Live. When I load Kontakt into...

bugs-about-vst

Bugs about vst~

agustin issidoro

I am building a Max4Live devices that querries regularly clips' start_time and name with the "get" method via live.object.

I've realized that setting the ID in the live.object introduces a "change" in Ableton Live's Undo History. This scalates quite quickly and if using many devices, the undo history is unusuable.

Is there a reason for this? It is the first time I've seen this, though I've used live.object already a few times before.

So in the patch excerpt, I am first getting all arrangament clips, and then iterating through them to get start_time and name. The first live.object is ok and is not causing any changes. The second one, as soon as I set the ID, will produce a change. It happens the same with live.observer (and I can't call the start_time method like this).

I'm really lost here and the issue is quite heavy, since it really renders the undo history unusable. 

Hello all,

I am building a Max4Live devices that querries regularly clips' start_time and name with the "get" method via...

liveobject-produces-changes-in-ableton-live-undo-history

live.object produces "changes" in Ableton Live Undo History

Harry May

It seems that a subdiv in a newly loaded patcher wont evaluate a recently assigned prob value as soon as the transport starts...is there a workaround for this?

If you load up this example patcher and then start the transport, the first subdiv of 16 gets output according to subdiv's default @prob 1 while the following subdivs get the more recently assigned prob 0. On subsequent loops, no subdivs are output so its only that first loop where the new prob value isn't evaluated for the very first subdiv. 

This is a dumbed down example but its causing me problems in a sequencer device I'm building whereby the first note is often triggered when it shouldnt be or not triggered when it should be after my device has been loaded and the transport is started for the first time. Beyond that first time, the first subdiv is output correctly. 

For anyone who might want to test it more quickly by deleting/re-loading the device in Live i'll include an .amxd

subdiv-prob-issue.amxd

It seems that a subdiv in a newly loaded patcher wont evaluate a recently assigned prob value as soon as the transport starts...is there a...

fist-subdiv-not-output-when-using-phasor-lock-1-and-transport-is-started-for-the-first-time

Fist subdiv not output when using phasor @lock 1 and transport is started for the first time

Daniel Neshama Itach

So, I built this M4L device. It works great in Max MSP standalone but 

doesn't output audio when running inside Ableton Live

*It does output audio to live when I open it in edit mode. Never happened to me, so weird.

So, I built this M4L device. It works great in Max MSP standalone but doesn't output audio when running inside Ableton Live.

*It does...

no-audio-output-only-when-opened-in-edit-mode

No audio output, only when opened in edit mode..?

izuru inayoshi

I'm developing a Max for Live audio effect called 

 which randomly extracts spectrums from the input audio to create and output grains. I'm struggling to implement a 

 object to allow for multiple overlapping grains. I've tried solutions suggested by AI and various patches found online, but none of them worked. Could anyone provide a working solution or advice on how to properly implement round-robin with 

Spectral Grain Filter prototype.amxd

I'm developing a Max for Live audio effect called Spectral Grain Filter which randomly extracts spectrums from the input audio to create...

implementing-round-robin-voice-allocation-with-poly-in-a-max-for-live-audio-effect

Implementing Round-Robin Voice Allocation with poly~ in a Max for Live Audio Effect

Uasmi Nasser

I'm trying to implement a saving and recalling presets functionality using dict and js. To access an object within a subpatcher with a unique name ("---object", for example), I am using this code:

return this.patcher.getnamed("---main").subpatcher().getnamed("---object").getvalueof();

This works fine until I try to use it after freezing the patcher, where I start to get error messages saying that the object is null. I assume this is related to unique names being assigned with additional characters after freezing? Or am I missing something?

Just to reference the structure of the patch - both dict and js code are located and called in the main patcher, and the objects (with unique names) I'm trying to access are located in the subpatcher (with a unique name as well).

Hi,

I'm trying to implement a saving and recalling presets functionality using dict and js. To access an object within a subpatcher with a...

saving-and-recalling-presets-with-javascript-and-dict-in-m4l-device

Saving and recalling presets with Javascript and dict in M4L device

Ulrich Hofmann

I recently started to experiment with M4L (which is part of my Ableton Live Suite). In addition to all the VST instruments, I have a real Roland JV-1010 that is controlled as an external instrument via a M4L device that I got from Matthew B on the gumroad website (Roland JV-1010 Controller (for Ableton M4L) 2.0).

This device allows to set all the JV-1010 settings via midi messages (which is great). However, the main control (the Category/Bank selector) does not allow automation / mapping knobs on my keyboard to that control.

Now, digging into the M4L code, this control was/is implemented as a jsui object, more specific, as a jsui 360 dial, with “parameter_mappable” grayed out. Reading through the various articles on js, jsui and parameter mapping, I found that this is because the “type” is set to “blob”, and blob does not allow mapping. So, I changed the type from "blob" to "float", changed the parameter visibility to "Automated and Stored", and made sure that all the js methods are implemented (setvalueof(v), getvalueof()).

Now comes the part that I cannot figure out... When I save these changes using Max's "File/Save", and then lock and freeze the device to test it, the mapping just works fine - I can map the 360 dial to my keyboard, perfectly working. But when I close the Max window, all the changes are lost, the mapping capability is gone. When reopening the Max window, I can see that the type reverted back to "blob"...

What am I doing wrong, or is there a reason that the jsui object is only allowed to be a blob type?

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