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Kim ho jun

I made this patch in max for live, I faced a big problem. ㅠㅠ

As adsr~ moves the cutoff frequency, the sound continues to reset.

Does anyone know how to pass a signal only once?


I made this patch in max for live, I faced a big problem. ㅠㅠ

As adsr~ moves the cutoff frequency, the sound continues to reset.
Does...

help-me-about-filter-envelope-adsr-error

Help me! About Filter Envelope (adsr~ error..?)

matteo massimiliani

I searched deeply on the forum but no post helped me solve this little riddle.

I am trying to open a device on a separate floating window which should stay on top even if I click somewhere else.

I can manage to keep a floating window but it goes behind Live's interface whenever I click on it.

I tried giving the argument "Topmost 1" to the thispatcher object but this does not work.

This is what I am sending to "thispatcher" now: 

window flags nomenu, window flags float, window size 0. 0. 629.382764 169.519548, window exec, front, presentation 1 

I tried switching "front" with "Topmost 1", I tried removing "window flags float" and tried the other too but no success...

I searched deeply on the forum but no post helped me solve this little riddle.
I am trying to open a device on a separate floating window...

max-device-with-floating-window-staying-on-top

Max device with floating window staying on top.

Evan Chandler

Let's say I have a channel with a drum rack on it, playing kick drums via the notes in a MIDI clip. I want to access those MIDI notes as well as the audio signal in my maxforlive device. 

The "MIDI Routing Input" patch from this article seemed like a good place to start.  

https://cycling74.com/articles/what's-new-in-live-11-part-1

Duplicating this patch, you can receive audio to "plugin~ 3 4" if you change the message to "audio_inputs 1". This achieves my goal but it seems silly to have to select the same channel twice from both pairs of umenus. The tie in point for each MIDI and Audio routing should be selected independently, but will always come from the same channel. Maybe it's possible to use 3 umenu objects like this:  

2. Select MIDI tie in point (pre/post MIDI fx)

3. Select Audio tie in point (pre/post audio fx, post mixer)

I have no idea how to do this. The inside of these routing patches go way over my head. IS this possible? Any guidance is much appreciated. 

Let's say I have a channel with a drum rack on it, playing kick drums via the notes in a MIDI clip. I want to access those MIDI notes as...

how-to-route-audio-and-midi-from-one-channel-to-my-device

How to route Audio and MIDI from one channel to my device?

Evan

Not sure if this should go to Ableton or not (already have a bug report out on a similar topic), but thought it might be helpful to open a discussion here regardless.

Background - I have been using the control surface API since it arrived with m4l way back when. took a while off from musicking, and am returning to some of my previous work after getting a Push3 standalone a few weeks ago. Im going to scope this post to just the touch strip component, but some of this can be applied to (presumably) a lot of the controls that are children of the Push3 control surface object.

I have a m4l device that takes control of the touchstrip on the Push, sets its mode to bi-directional latching (mode 2), and then uses inout to control the position of the crossfader in Live. using the exact same patch that was developed for Push1/2 I am getting wildly different behavior.

1) The (call set_mode X) message to the touchstrip [live.object] is not recognized as a function. The error coming back is "live.object: 'ControlProxy' object has no attribute 'set_mode'" - this seems to indicate that this control on the Push3 lives behind some proxy that is control agnostic. Which leads me to my next point...

2) Why are all controls on the Push3 of the same 'ControlProxy' type instead of their actual type, i.e. TouchStripElement in the case of the touchstrip element - I noticed this when attempting to take over control of the button matrix for another device. All controls seem to sit behind this ControlProxy object. And when calling getinfo on them, they all return the same base functions, with no control specific information. For instance, you'd expect see different info about the touch strip as opposed to an encoder, matrix button, etc. I leveraged this extensively for prototyping and developing LiveAPI calls in JS.

3) The observed output is not useful at all - The output is a series of -128, -64, 0, 64, and 128 values. On Push 2, you get the full pitch bend range of 0 - 16384 (the upper end is clipped a bit, but close enough).

I understand that the Push3 isn't a traditional control surface written in Python, and I'm certainly don't understand the nuances of the technical implementation. That being said, some of these changes to the control surface API, and they way it communicates with Push3 are 100% breaking changes for me, and some of the devices i depend on. I was hoping to port some of my work to standalone mode, to untether from a computer while performing and writing, but now I am questioning not only if it's possible now, but if it will EVER be possible with the way M4L communicates with the Push3.

Will there ever be any documentation released around things that have changed in this regard? Or is something already out there and I just haven't stumbled upon it yet?

I've attached text output of some getinfo calls to the touchstrip control, and the patch used to generate said outputs. 

EDIT: Tested on both the current release version of Live (Max 8.5.5), as well as the latest version of the Live Beta (Max 8.5.6).

push2_touchstrip_info.txt

push3_touchstrip_output.txt

Not sure if this should go to Ableton or not (already have a bug report out on a similar topic), but thought it might be helpful to open a discussion here regardless. 

Background - I have been using the control surface API since it arrived with m4l way back when. took a while off from musicking, and am returning to some of my previous work after getting a Push3 standalone a few weeks ago. Im going to scope this post to just the touch strip component, but some of this can be applied to (presumably) a lot of the controls that are children of the Push3 control surface object. 

I have a m4l device that takes control of the touchstrip on the Push, sets its mode to bi-directional latching (mode 2), and then uses inout to control the position of the crossfader in Live. using the exact same patch that was developed for Push1/2 I am getting wildly different behavior. 

2) Why are all controls on the Push3 of the same 'ControlProxy' type instead of their actual type, i.e. TouchStripElement in the case of the touchstrip element - I noticed this when attempting to take over control of the button matrix for another device. All controls seem to sit behind this ControlProxy object. And when calling getinfo on them, they all return the same base functions, with no control specific information. For instance, you'd expect see different info about the touch strip as opposed to an encoder, matrix button, etc. I leveraged this extensively for prototyping and developing LiveAPI calls in JS. 

3) The observed output is not useful at all - The output is a series of -128, -64, 0, 64, and 128 values. On Push 2, you get the full pitch bend range of 0 - 16384 (the upper end is clipped a bit, but close enough). 

I understand that the Push3 isn't a traditional control surface written in Python, and I'm certainly don't understand the nuances of the technical implementation. That being said, some of these changes to the control surface API, and they way it communicates with Push3 are 100% breaking changes for me, and some of the devices i depend on. I was hoping to port some of my work to standalone mode, to untether from a computer while performing and writing, but now I am questioning not only if it's possible now, but if it will EVER be possible with the way M4L communicates with the Push3. 

I've attached text output of some getinfo calls to the touchstrip control, and the patch used to generate said outputs. 

EDIT: Tested on both the current release version of Live (Max 8.5.5), as well as the latest version of the Live Beta (Max 8.5.6). 

Not sure if this should go to Ableton or not (already have a bug report out on a similar topic), but thought it might be helpful to open a ... 

push12-vs-push3-control-surfaces-api-differences-and-documentation

Push1+2 vs Push3 control surfaces API - differences and documentation? 

Martin

I'd like to make a device that's able to merge midi from two channels together into one.

For example, I have one drum pad at home with which I like to drum in everything. Logically, every line I play on this instrument ends up on one note. In my ideal setup, I'd have a second midi channel with long legato melodic notes which would be sidechained to the single drum channel. The pitch information of this channel would be merged with all the other midi information from the drum channel.

This way, I would be able to drum in melodic lines with a single pad. This would also be handy for live use.

I know it's possible to sidechain midi into a M4L audio effect, is it also possible in a midi effect?

Hi,

I'd like to make a device that's able to merge midi from two channels together into one.

For example, I have one drum pad at home...

merge-information-from-two-midi-channels-together

Merge information from two midi channels together

Dr Sogo

I’m working on a method to add IDs to a list, ensuring that each ID is unique and duplicates are filtered out. If an ID that is already in the list is selected, it will be ignored.

I’ve implemented a solution that appears to be working well for this purpose. However, I’d love to get feedback from the community. Would you approach this task differently, or do you have any suggestions for improvement?

Hi everyone,

I’m working on a method to add IDs to a list, ensuring that each ID is unique and duplicates are filtered out. If an ID that...

add-uniques-m4l-ids-to-list

Add uniques M4L IDs to list

Dan Dropf

I'm looking for a m4l device that shows the values of any parameter I add in a seperate window. So that when i turn a knob or make any change to a parameter, I can see this in the pop up window without having to go to the channel I just where I adjusted a parameter.

ex. I have a channel with multiple drum racks grouped in an instrument rack. I mapped the chain selector to a macro knob to select another drum rack. It would be nice to have a seperate window that shows me I'm on the second or either which chain without going back to the instrument rack to check if I'm in the right drum rack.

I hope my explenation is a bit clear. Would be great to have a device ready or somebody showing me the way to make it in m4l. I'm an intermediate user of m4l.

Hi all,

I'm looking for a m4l device that shows the values of any parameter I add in a seperate window. So that when i turn a knob or make...

pop-up-window-with-list-of-parameters

Pop up window with list of parameters

Renaud Bougueng

We are ecstatic to release our Ableton plugin for computer-assisted music composition! Meet 

Max For Live Forum