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hi, when i call 'set_or_delete_cue', it is always locked to ableton's current grid

, and i can manually use the set/del button in ableton to create many locators within grid segments just fine, but if i use the m4l function it always snaps to the current grid size.

hi, when i call 'set_or_delete_cue', it is always locked to ableton's current grid

i have global quantization turned off, and i can...

setordeletecue-snaps-to-grid-even-with-global-quantization-turned-off

set_or_delete_cue snaps to grid, even with global quantization turned off

spin lud

I have just found that Ableton beats counting is a bit weird.

I have a test project with 2 bars in 4/4, 2 bars in 6/8 and then again 4/4.

To debug what's going on the Ableton internal counter, at each tick I have logged bars/beats/sub_division/ticks, song time (expressed in beats, not in ms as reported by documentation) and time signature.

As you can notice, when time signature switch from 4/4 to 6/8 Ableton BEATS=5 (does not reset to BEATS=1), because Ableton computes bars/beats/sub_division/ticks reasoning as the current time signature is the same for the entire song. So when it switched to 6/8 Ableton does the computation as the whole song is in 6/8.

This is even more evident in the transition back from  6/8 to 4/4. You will notice that the BARS count decrease (from BARS=5 to BARS=4):

BARS=5 BEATS=4 SUB=2 TICKS=53 | TIME=13.966938775510204 | SIGNATURE=6/8

BARS=4 BEATS=3 SUB=1 TICKS=2 | TIME=14.006938775510203 | SIGNATURE=4/4

This is because when switching back to 4/4, Ableton consider the entire song in 4/4 and update the time values accordingly.

The issue is that I find impossible to detect the real (musical) downbeat when a time signature changes like this occur. For musical downbeat I mean the real first beat of a bar (the one we hear with a different sound when we activate the metronome). To do that we should know every possible signature change in the project, but we can't assume to start the project always from the beginning and detect all the signature changes along the way.

Has anyone managed to find a solution to this problem? I tried but failed miserably.

The only way I have found is to add a listener to a button on the controller to manually compute a beat offset when a beat misalignment occur due to time signature change and apply that offset to the beat reported by Ableton. Better than nothing 🤷‍♂️

I have just found that Ableton beats counting is a bit weird.

I have a test project with 2 bars in 4/4, 2 bars in 6/8 and then again...

help-needed-find-real-downbeat-in-case-of-signature-changes

Help needed: find real downbeat in case of signature changes

son yi jun

Are there any workarounds or patches planned to address this?

Hello,

I'm currently using Max 9.0.5 on Windows.

I encountered a critical issue:

When in Edit mode,

If I resize the patcher window or...

max-905-windows-crash-when-resizing-or-zooming-in-edit-mode-no-console-error

Max 9.0.5 Windows: Crash when resizing or zooming in Edit mode (no console error)

tyler mazaika

In this configuration I'm having problems with the locked_bgcolor attribute when set to a Dynamic color name ("Device Background").

Trouble is, it's only happening in .amxd that I froze/exported a while back, and which have worked correctly for more than a year.  

I've tried to reproduce the issue from scratch by mixing and matching devices exported from Max as old as 8.3.3, but I can't seem to cause the problem.

Pictures of the issue below.  Is anyone else able to reproduce something like this?

In this configuration I'm having problems with the locked_bgcolor attribute when set to a Dynamic color name ("Device Background").

Live...

max-86-live-color-theme-issues-lockedbgcolor-with-dynamic-color

Max 8.6 + Live color theme issues (locked_bgcolor with dynamic color)

Caligula Cuddles

Alright, this is an odd one and probably involves something simple I'm missing, but...

I've been working on some devices, and I've noticed that certain dials (With ☒ Initial Enable and a preset value defined) don't seem to send their value until I adjust them. Is there something I'm missing?

I have a similar issue with a umenu that selects an audio source, but until I click it, there's no audio. 

Alright, this is an odd one and probably involves something simple I'm missing, but...
I've been working on some devices, and I've noticed that certain dials (With ☒ Initial Enable and a preset value defined) don't seem to send their value until I adjust them. Is there something I'm missing?
I have a similar issue with a umenu that selects an audio source, but until I click it, there's no audio. 

What am I forgetting to do here?

Alright, this is an odd one and probably involves something simple I'm missing, but...
I've been working on some devices, and I've noticed t

m4l-device-not-working-properly-until-adjusting-parameters

M4L Device not working properly until adjusting parameters

Drum Stix

Today I tried the new Track.create_midi_clip function which is available as of 12.1.10. I noticed that after calling the function, the clip is created correctly, but the return ID (returned by live.object) is 0 instead of the ID of the clip that was created. I double checked with other similar functions like song.create_scene, clip_slot.create_clip etc. On these functions live.object returns the ID of the newly created item. See attached patch.

So Track.create_midi_clip doesn't. That sounds like a bug right? 

Is there an alternative way to find out which clip I just created?

Today I tried the new Track.create_midi_clip function which is available as of 12.1.10. I noticed that after calling the function, the clip...

trackcreatemidiclip-function-doesnt-return-correct-clip-id

Track.create_midi_clip function doesn't return correct clip ID

Simon East

I have a really odd issue that I have been trying to debug for a week now and I am getting nowhere with it - so maybe someone here has some ideas that might help.

I have an existing M4L plugin that is released and working fine in Live 10, 11 and 12.

I've made some updates to it and Livee now it crashes when a project containing the plugin is loaded into Live 10.1.43 - it does not crash Live 11 or 12.

I've created two new Live 10 projects that only contain the original plugin. One I save with the default plugin settings. The other I save with a change to one live.numbox item.

If I then switch the plugin file to the new version, restart Live 10, and load the project with the default plugin settings it works fine. But if I try and load the project that has the one change saved it crashes every time.

I have now deleted everything else from inside the new version of the plugin apart from the single live.numbox item and the crash still happens - it seems to simply be the act of Live setting the value of the live.numbox that is crashing it. The only thing that might be slightly out of the ordinary is that the live.numbox is in a bpatcher maxpat which is itself contained in another maxpat because this code is reused in a number of other plugins - but these nexted bpatchers have been working fine in previous versions.

I've also found one other UI item, a live.menu, that has the same effect. But other live.menu items in the maxpat work fine and don't cause a crash. Same thing happens with this - if a test project is saved with the original default settings then it works fine, but if the selection of the menu is changed then it crashes when loaded.

I have tried this on Mac and Windows - same crash on both - so I don't think it can be some local config issue. Besides that this has all be working fine for previous releases.

Anyone got any ideas how I can work out what is going on here?

I have a really odd issue that I have been trying to debug for a week now and I am getting nowhere with it - so maybe someone here has some...

maxforlive-plugin-crashing-live-10143

MaxForLive plugin crashing Live 10.1.43 

Dave Dave

I'm just starting out with M4L, so please excuse if this is a silly problem. 

I want to control playback in Ableton via a M4L device and have this in turn be controlled with my Midi controller. So, to give an example, I press a C1 on the controller which I mapped to a "play" button on the M4L device which in turn tells Ableton to, in this example, "start playback". 

Now, the problem I keep running into is this:

When I press the Midi controller, it does trigger the M4L button - but only every other time. Or, to be more precise, it doesn't "untrigger" it when I release the controller so that it is immediately ready to fire again. However, when I press the same M4L button not via the Midi controller but directly with my mouse, the M4L device triggers every time without fail. 

I reckon there should be a way to remedy this? please help :)

Hi there!

I'm just starting out with M4L, so please excuse if this is a silly problem. 
I want to control playback in Ableton via a M4L...

problem-with-controlling-m4l-device-via-midi

Problem with controlling M4l device via Midi

Jake McLain

I'm working on a patch that revolves around Ableton's Wavetable device, and need a way to set the modulation matrix programmatically using the js object. From the 

Live Object Model docs for WavetableDevice

Max For Live Forum