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Third-party packages and external objects created by the community have been an important part of Max since the earliest days. Max 8.2 gave us the ability to run Max natively on Apple Silicon computers. The recently updated Max 8.2 SDK extends this support to third-party externals, which must be recompiled to run in Max 8.2 natively. The Max SDK build system has also been modernized with CMake support to aid in cross-platform development. Finally, for those who wish to develop using both Max SDK and the Min API, these are now updated to share the same base headers and libraries.

Watch the video below for more details on the update and instructions to get started with the new Cmake-enabled workflow.

Here we provide an introduction to building your own Max externals using the Max SDK. We begin by comparing the Max SDK to the Min DevKit before demoing the setup and compilation of projects using the v8.2 Max SDK.

For more information about how to develop externals, see; https://cycling74.com/sdk/max-sdk-8.2.0/ (Max) https://cycling74.github.io/min-devkit/ (Min)

GitHub repositories:
https://github.com/Cycling74/max-sdk
- https://github.com/Cycling74/min-devkit

Max 8.2 SDK Update Overview

For more information about how to develop externals, see:

Third-party packages and external objects created by the community have been an important part of Max since the earliest days. Max 8.2 gave us the ability to run Max natively on Apple Silicon computers. The recently updated Max 8.2 SDK extends this support to third-party externals, which must be recompiled to run in Max 8.2 natively. The Max SDK build system has also been modernized with CMake support to aid in cross-platform development. Finally, for those who wish to develop using both Max SDK and the Min API, these are  now updated to share the same base headers and libraries.

Watch the video below for more details on the update and instructions to get started with the new Cmake-enabled workflow.



For more information about how to develop externals, see: 

https://cycling74.com/sdk/max-sdk-8.2.0/ (Max) 

https://cycling74.github.io/min-devkit/ (Min)

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When Max 8.2 was released with native Apple Silicon support, the Max SDK was upgraded to allow third party developers to create native Apple Silicon externals.

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i typed in my terminal 
git clone git@github.com:Cycling74/max-sdk.git as in the video.
It answers 
The authenticity of host 'github.com (140.82.121.4)' can't be established.
ED25519 key fingerprint is SHA256:+DiY3wvvV6TuJJhbpZisF/zLDA0zPMSvHdkr4UvCOqU.
This key is not known by any other names
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no/[fingerprint])? yes
Warning: Permanently added 'github.com' (ED25519) to the list of known hosts.
git@github.com: Permission denied (publickey).
fatal: Could not read from remote repository.

Please make sure you have the correct access rights
and the repository exists.

I had the same problem. I had to follow some steps to create a key on my machine. You need a github account.
Gooogle "git@github.com: Permission denied (publickey)" or use docs at github. If you can't get it done, you could always download manually from github (don't forget the max-sdk-base). More important is to have homebrew / cmake accessible in your terminal. 


Looks like the difference between cloning via SSH vs HTTPS is causing the error. The quick solution would be to instead use git clone https://github.com/Cycling74/max-sdk.git  --recursive

(That --recursive flag will pull in the max-sdk-base submodule you'll need as well in one go.)

For more info:

With git clone git@github.com:Cycling74/max-sdk.git, git will use ssh to pull in the repository to your local machine. This means you'll need to have SSH keys added to your GitHub account. Instructions here: https://docs.github.com/en/authentication/connecting-to-github-with-ssh/adding-a-new-ssh-key-to-your-github-account


if you are having trouble cloning from github, you can simply download the latest release here - https://github.com/Cycling74/max-sdk/releases/latest 

Can anyone comment on whether you need an apple-silicon machine in order to make an apple-silicon-native external?
 Or can it be created on an older Intel machine, but still work natively on an AS machine?
 Thank you!

You don't need an Apple Silicon machine to make an M1 native external as long as you have a recent version of Xcode.

Requirements, to be precise, are: Xcode >=12 and MacOS >= 10.15 (Catalina)

Do the changes in the 8.2 SDK also explain why externals compiled in previous versions don't work in Max 8.2 onwards? I have an external that was working fine in 8.1 and the moment I updated to 8.2 it stopped working.

I'm trying to determine whether I need to re-compile this external with the 8.2 SDK in order to continue using it in Max 8.2 (even if I'm still on Catalina or Big Sur) ?

For context, it's the old Fingerpinger external for use with the Apple trackpad and it makes use of the Apple MultitouchSupport.framework (/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/MultitouchSupport.framework/)

https://www.anyma.ch/2009/research/multitouch-external-for-maxmsp/

latest source (not linked on site):  http://www.anyma.ch/software/fingerpinger2017_08_17_source.zip

a (very) basic raw question: can we play with Live API through 8.2 SDK for externals running in M4L devices ??

Trying to follow the video letter by letter. I get stuck @ cmake --help:
zsh: command not found: cmake
searched, but brew install cmake does not work... (homebrew-core is a shallow clone.)
Then I downloaded cmake.dmg, and followed the PATH instruction which leads to this error:
CMake Error: The source directory "/Users/st/max-sdk/build/help" does not exist.
Specify --help for usage, or press the help button on the CMake GUI.
This is 100% confusing. Those error messages are helpful for those who know what it means, but they most likely don't run into errors anyway...

I would love to help somebody to make tutorials for those who know nothing. My experience is always, that it looks so nice in the video, and fails on my system. And nobody anticipated what could go wrong...
I would also prefer always methods without the command line. Nothing against it in general, but for me I know better what is going on if I just copy folders and files instead of doing such things in the terminal with about 1000 keystrokes more and not really knowing what is going on...
There should be either droplets or little apps to just do all these commands. Why typing all those letters, if a program could type it for everybody? Sometimes I think professional programmers are not lazy enough...


+1, even with CMake installed via homebrew, i then attempt the 'cmake -G Xcode ..' part and get this:

sorry for being so stupid and incapable of 'modernization', Cycling74 (wasted 4 hours this morning googling everything i could with no luck #FML 😔🔫)

@RAJA TRA I remember seeing the same error. Iirc I could solve it with the xcode -select command at the bottom of this thread  

@11OLSEN oooof! can't thank you enough!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!! It works now! 😭
i've never been more relieved that Cycling74 won't be able to leave me behind in their fast moving dust

(i would like to add, tho, they should show more 'empathy' for their user-base when creating documentation and tutorials, 'empathy' is required for proper 'modernization' of the human spirit 🥸)

ok, i'm happier now. i'll leave it at that. Thanks again, @11OLSEN 🙏 

@Tj Shredder It is not easy to make a failsafe tutorials, but i totally understand you as I also had to solve multiple problems before it finally worked. I documented everything in a comment on Isabels yt vid but for some reason the comment was deleted. You should focus on a proper homebrew (+cmake) installation first.  

I've gotten as far as installing CMake and the 8.2 SDK and working through the steps in the video posted above.  I can see that for each external there's a folder such as /max-sdk/source/audio/simplemsp~ which has a single C source file (simplemsp~.c) and the file CMakeLists.txt.   I want to make a new audio external, to be built in addition to the other externals built by this CMake system.  So what exactly do I need to do?  Can I simply copy the directory (e.g. /max-sdk/source/audio/simplemsp~) and rename it with the name of my new external (and also rename the C file it contains)?

Can I simply copy the directory (e.g. /max-sdk/source/audio/simplemsp~)  and rename it with the name of my new external (and also rename the C  file it contains)?

ya exactly, then rebuild as instructed in the video (around 3:30)... as long as you have the "CMakeLists.txt" file in the subfolder with your c-code, the outer cmakelists.txt will find it and build it accordingly based on the new names you give.

[additionally, at the end of my specific external's "CMakeLists.txt" file i added:
"set(CMAKE_OSX_ARCHITECTURES x86_64;arm64)" ...i'm not sure if we still need that, but it doesn't hurt, if you're on OSX and want builds automatically set for arm64(at least i think that's what it means, i'm no expert, just works nicely for me on my M1 Mac this way)]

Yes, I've now got my external building and more-or-less working with SDK 8.2.  However, I'm up against a pretty big problem in that my external needs the Max asyncfile rather than the normal sysfile API.  Previously I contacted some C-74 folks who kindly gave me the header ext_asyncfile.h so I could use that API with SDK 6.1.1.  However, some things with t_asyncfile_params must have changed because I'm getting some weird behavior when I try to build using the old header.   It sort-of-works ;-).   Any chance I could get an updated version of ext_asyncfile.h so that my external will work as expected? I've got some users who really want it to be updated.  Thanks!

The Max 8.2 SDK: An Overview

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Table Synth is by no means the most advanced synthesizer ever created, but it could be useful as a starting point for experimenting with the use of tables for waveforms and envelopes. It has a charming vocal-like quality due to the combination of wavetables and a filter with a lot of resonance. Just draw and enjoy.

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nice.. the overdriven filter reminds me of the nord micromodular. and cool to see [table] getting some love in 2022! 

thanks, i took it, added some MC stuff for a pad synth here, used the tables in 2d.wave~ for bass and karplus-like instruments as well, but swapped out the filter with 'moogsnake'... to make today's jamuary:

Table Synth by David Zicarelli

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What does your 2022 Max to-do list look like? If you're looking to expand your Max repertoire or add a few new tools to your belt, we've gathered 10 of the latest recommended Max Packages that will expand how you use Max in 2022. All of these can be installed by browsing in the Max Package Manager (File->Show Package Manager) and installing from there.

What does your 2022 Max to-do list look like? If you're looking to expand your Max repertoire or add a few new tools to your belt, we've gathered 10 of the latest recommended Max Packages that will expand how you use Max in 2022.  All of these can be installed by browsing in the Max Package Manager (File->Show Package Manager) and installing from there. 

Max Hardware Library - This package focusses on connecting to and communicating with Bluetooth enabled hardware. Could be a great starting place for a wireless performance controller project in combination with an Arduino or similar device with Bluetooth module attached.

ML.star by Benjamin D Smith - Explore what machine learning can do for your Max patches with this well-presented toolkit of ML techniques. You’ll want to set aside time to wrap your head around the ideas to get the most from it, but there’s plenty of help files available to get you started if you just want to jump in.

AudioMix by Manuel Poletti - Even if you’ve come to Max to free yourself of tracks and mixing boards, this concise set of ready-to-use components will come in handy when you need to patch together a mini-DAW in your patch.

Cv.jit by Jean-Marc Pelletier - Although you’ve probably heard of cv.jit, or even used it before, the latest version includes a number of improvements from the latest OpenCV libraries and is overall more stable. It’s hard not to come up with new ideas while browsing the examples included.

Sound Design Toolkit - Ready to make some sound effects? This super fun package gives you tools that allow you to mimic real-world physical sounds or invent imaginary machines, alien creatures, or sci-fi environments.

VSynth by Kevin Kripper - Kevin has been providing steady updates to this analog-inspired video synthesis package since its first release. Play around with the amazing library of examples and try your hand at some abstract video. 

XY Coordinates Generator Pack - Is it time to liven up your control signals? This package includes a rich set of tools created with Gen to generate a broad variety of spatially animated control signals.

MC Movement Studies - Explore unique ways to use multichannel audio along with procedural JSUI visualizations inspired by Daniel Shiffman’s “The Nature of Code”

Jitter Tools - A small set of tools to extend Jitter. Try out jit.gl.meshwarp, a full-featured interactive video mapping tool for creating unique projection setups. Also included are polymovie (like polybuffer~ for videos) and jit.gl.textureset (like jit.matrixset for textures).

Upshot - Benjamin Van Esser’s extensive collection of modular music tools includes everything from sequencers and event generators to instruments and audio effects. This package is full of gold for generative music makers.

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Open up the Max Package Manager and check them out.

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great list! somebody please port jamoma to apple silicon! 

 XY Coordinates Generator Pack  - is this one Mac only? Can't see it in the Package Manager in Windows. 

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