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missmiss

dose anyone have tutorials or some suggestions about how to use box2d ? like make user's own shape?

this is the download address:    http://charles.bascou.free.fr/box2d/


how-to-use-box2d

i would recommend using the jit.phys externals for this. search for the phys.world.2D example patch for an example of using jit.phys.world in 2D mode. also check here: https://cycling74.com/tutorials/introduction-to-jit-phys-part-1


how to use box2d ?

Pselodux

Hi all, I'm building a modal synth engine using mc versions of resonant filters, and everything is sounding great so far, but I tried adding some modulation to the filter frequencies for a bit of extra dimension. However, due to the high resonance, any modulation above a certain frequency tends to cause the filter to explode. 

What is happening here, and how can I prevent it? So far I've tried biquad~, lores~, as well as rolling my own in gen~ from the examples provided in Max, and all of them have the same issue. The only filter seemingly without such issue is the Moog ladder filter example in gen~, but I'd rather not use that as I'd like to keep things open for potentially porting to other platforms.

I could probably get away with changing the resonant filters into sine waves and treat it more like an additive synth, but ideally I'd like to use this technique in a more typical subtractive synth format as well, as filter FM at high resonance is one of my favourite things to do with analog synths (and even with digital synthesis back when I had a Nord Modular).

Audio rate modulation of filters at high resonance - how can I do it without things getting out of control?

audio-rate-modulation-of-filters-at-high-resonance-how-can-i-do-it-without-things-getting-out-of-control

Lennard

I want to use a midi keyboard and a midi sustain pedal to play a synth. I wan't to manage the sustain inside of max, so that note on and note off messages are sent to the synth (and not the sustain pedal itself).

For that the [sustain @repeatmode 1] object is almost perfect. BUT if I play a note, activate the sustain, play that note again (retrigger it) and then release the sustain, that note is turned off. Even though I am still pressing it down on my midi keyboard. On a real piano that note would continue to sound, because I am still holding the key down. And not release/ stop sounding just because I deactivated the sustain pedal.

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated, I tried for many hours now to make that work, but I wasn't able to do it.

Hello, 

I want to use a midi keyboard and a midi sustain pedal to play a synth. I wan't to manage the sustain inside of max, so that note...

sustain-object-not-working-like-real-piano-pedal

[Sustain] object not working like real piano pedal

jasch

I've discovered the mc.function object which looks like a great expansion of this crucial object for animating values.

My question: is it possible to query all channels simultaneously with a float without having to switch the displaychan (see attached MWE)?

Two things come to mind: editing and querying could be dissociated and continuously repainting the ui would be avoided (the ui flickers now).

Hello, 
I've discovered the mc.function object which looks like a great expansion of this crucial object for animating values.

My question: is it possible to query all channels simultaneously with a float without having to switch the displaychan (see attached MWE)?

Two things come to mind: editing and querying could be dissociated and continuously repainting the ui would be avoided (the ui flickers now).

Hello, 
I've discovered the mc.function object which looks like a great expansion of this crucial object for animating values.

My question:

mc-function-simultaneous-float-query

To answer my own question: the [mc.target] object allows to target specific instances inside mc.objects (like poly/poly~) and thus query voices individually without interfering with the painting. 
Not intuitive and not directly documented with the object itself, but part of the overall mc-expansion object suite. IMHO not the most elegant code strategy, but works.

I hope this may help someone in the future.

Near future here,  it helped tremendous. 

mc.function simultaneous float query

Jeff Merkel

I know it gets brought up every once in a while, but I thought I'd post again to see what the interest was out there for getting Max working in Linux.

I jump between Mac, Winows, and Linux (Ubunutu) fairly regularly as no single OS can do everything I need under one roof. I teach at a university in physics and recording arts where I use Max, Wavelab, Nuendo, and Live extensively for demonstrations and PowerPoint/Keynote for presenting. I also run a recording/mastering/post studio where I again use Nuendo & Wavelab. But I also run an acoustic R&D company where I use Solidworks, QCAD, and a few other drawing/modeling tools. And lastly I head up an interdisciplinary research collective that mostly uses Max, but also vvvv, Processing, TouchDesigner, Quartz Composer, etc.

But I'm finding that I prefer Linux above Windows and Mac more and more for the sheer speed, customization, and adaptability even though it's by far the least supported for applications which really bums me out. While I'm a big supporter of open source I'm also happy to pay for good commercial software like Max. i just wish Max, and a few others, would run on Linux.

Max is one of the biggest hangups for me to not spend almost all of my time in Linux. PD is a great program, no doubt, but I rely on a lot of the awesome and amazing externals out there and the great Max community (along with a number of other reasons). Even getting Max to run under Wine would be OK, though native support would be much more preferable. But the iLok stuff only works on Mac/Win, even though I use the software key/internet activation.

So I'm interested if there's any other folks out there in the same boat as myself. I know Linux support is a low priority for most commercial companies that are trying squash bugs and be innovative, but I feel like Ubuntu and other flavors are on the rise and have some very cool potential in the multimedia realm (but that could also be just because I've been getting more into it personally). If there's enough of us requesting maybe we could see a Linux release in the future! Anyone else interested in seeing this happen?

But I'm finding that I prefer Linux above Windows and Mac more and more for the sheer speed, customization, and adaptability even though it's by far the least supported for applications which really bums me out. While I'm a big supporter of open source I'm also happy to pay for good commercial software like Max. i just wish Max, and a few others, would run on Linux. 

max-on-linux

If Max could run on Linux, I would immediately abandon Apple. Ubuntu indeed is very robust as I use it since its beginning for my spare-time activities. Also, many third party objects in Max are shared by their authors with an "Open Source" spirit. After all, Max has been ported to Windows pretty late after having been developed on Macintosh. Despite Linux has a much more limited market than Windows would it be too difficult to make Max available for Linux ? I vote for it !

Not too sure I'd be looking at Linux that seriously myself when it comes to multimedia. The common hardware support is pretty stable, but the moment you enter the realm of specifics then it becomes a different issue.

Still; you can always look into Pure Data I suppose. Its not Max but it shares the same roots and runs natively under Linux.


As said elsewhere, Max is pretty much the only thing keeping me attached to OSX...


I'd echo all of the comments that long for Max on Linux, although I fear it's probably just a dream that'll never come true.


Same here, may be someday a port to Linux would be possible with a lot of request from users ...


there are so many personal and selfish reasons why i want Max on Linux i will not bore the list with them, other than to say that Max is the only reason i too stay on OSX. Max-Linux and i would never have to go through all the Apple and Microsoft bullshit again in my life. just before Max6 i was seriously contemplating ditching Max so i could move on. then i got re-addicted (damn them!).

sadly, like dickmedd, i think it is a pipe dream. in fact we are more likely to see some sort of reactionary and pointless high-ish-level iOS / WinRT crap before a proper Linux port.

i do actually believe that it is completely (and commercially) misguided and also conceptually wrong of cycling74 not to port to Linux.

if they could have, they surely would have loved to have had Windows right from 1997 rather than having to wait for the port until they could find the time / resources to do it. likewise, in 10 years or so they will be kicking themselves that they did not port to linux, as by then both OSX and Windows will have become virtually impossible OS's to sustain a serious relatively low level environment for audio video gl data mangling on. (i feel i will be stuck on 10.6.8 and 7 sp1 forever as i cannot bring myself to upgrade to the current unbelievable unusercentric nightmare offerings. sadly, kde and gnome have gone almost the same way).

also, to not port to linux is to ignore what the type of software they produce is. linux is crying out for max and vica versa. gen itself is a technology philosophically rooted in that environment, especially seeing as how it derives from luaav. (this is hugely contentious statement of course. alas brevity).

there are so many open source technologies underpinning max these days, from bullet to clang, and they already implement a genuinely cross platform interface in juce, that it would surely be less work and license hassle porting to linux than the original windows port was. and i really believe that in the future artists and possibly creative coder types will be using linux or linux-like systems almost exclusively. however i guess what they are most concerned with is support on linux, to be fair.

also, if anyone else suggests that Pd is an "alternative" to Max i will scream. people who say that have never used both softwares deeply.

also, Max-Linux would force cycling to use a different system than interlok etc for copy protection, which surely every sane human being on the planet categorically despises!


+1 when I think that I switched to windows after 10 years under linux just for Max...


+ 1 here too.
What I would like to know is what exactly would be involved in creating max for linux ? What programing language how difficult would it be to do the translation etc etc ?
Seeing as there seems to be a lot of support for the idea and the whole point of linux is that its open source and if cycling74 dont have the reources - what are the chances of cycling74 turning the job over to a large group of enthusiastic volunteers ? (zero I suspect but maybe....)


I don't think this thread is about open-sourcing Max but about porting it to a platform that is becoming increasingly more important to people who want to do serious work with computers. There is a number of commercial software for Linux and I don't know any rule that would prohibit that.


While I too would love to have the option of editing Max on a modern linux distro like Ubuntu, my main interest is in _running_ patches on low cost streamlined machines for instillations and clustered environments. Mac minis are terribly expensive and over powered compared to some of the little machines you can run Ubuntu on. Taken further, ARM support would be just as desirable for me (raspberry pi anyone?)


I guess the show stopper is the Pace copy protection. We have to put pressure on pace to at least support an iLok. But I'd prefer the software/driver version. The Max runtime seems to work in wine (long ago I tested it, don't know if that is still true...)
That could be a solution for installations, nobody would put a fully authorized Max on such a machine...;-)
As far as I remember, cycling said, back when they made the port to windows, it would be much easier to do a linux port.
In the end OS X and Linux share the same Unix OS philosophy...


So this is then a technical challenge for Pace. And for each challenge there is a response - noone should know better than Pace. =)
Max wouldn't be the first copy-protected app for Linux and it won't be the last. The further the iOSification of OSX will advance the louder the calls will get. And C74 isn't the almost-deaf, academic one-man company anymore it used to be.


This was the answer from Pace. I just asked per e-mail.

Maybe if more people ask for it, its becomes more likely?

Am 09.07.12 19:25, schrieb PACE Anti-Piracy Technical Support:
> Linux support has been considered but is not available at this time.
>
> No date or timeframe has been set as to when or if such support will be
> made available. If it does, we will be sure to announce it on our
> website so check back there for any future announcements.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Sergio Flores


It also looks like a wine port is out based on previous testing from others...
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=7781


Oh dear god, please ---- don't push iLok on anyone.

Interestingly (and timely), last night I was doing some work with some world-class touring musicians and we were discussing the keyboard setup that one of them will be using in an upcoming tour in California. He mentioned he was using PPG softsynth to which I said I was surprised he would use that because of iLok.

His comment: he got a special build of the plugin with iLok disabled and a serial number activation instead. He pointed out that most developers of these products don't actually use them in professional situations (e.g. gigs in front of thousands of fans) and have no clue about the consequences of such things breaking.

It may be fine for a permanent situation and/or where the consequences of failure are not serious (e.g, a presentation at a college, or an installation in a recording studio) but for anyone who has to use it in a live situation, particularly when in front of paying customers (fans, or if you're a session musician, clients in a recording situation), it's just a no-no.


@protocol The rating of "Garbage" does not fill one with hope!


@ dhjdhjdhj Exactly why I said the option of using wine was "out" meaning "not likely" :) Could have been a bit more clear. Just reporting back my research.


Interesting that a few users have expressed a desire to get away from OS X. I'm partly in the same boat, I'm not really digging the direction that Apple are going in desktop-wise at the moment. 

I'm sure this will compound the feeling for some users: http://hothardware.com/News/OS-X-10-8-Mountain-Lion-Wont-Support-64bit-Macs-with-Older-GPUs/


Sorry to perpetuate this thread (well, I'm not really sorry) but I thought I'd draw attention to the fact that Valve are now developing their gaming digital delivery service, Steam, for Linux: http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/

I know Valve probably have a fair bit more money in the coffers than Cycling '74, and that Steam has a larger number of users than Max, but I still feel it's a sign of the times (they are a changin').


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