Andy Maskell

I have a patch (attached) that I have written on a Windows PC. It's very simple but I'd like to make it available to other users of the mixing software that I'm using (Mixing Station) in a format that they can't mess up!

I could do this for Windows users by creating a Standalone and then encapsulating it in VirtualBox. Is there any way that somebody would be willing to help me by doing this for me on a Mac, given that I don't have access to one?! 😒😉

If you are prepared to help me out, I might need a bit of help making sure that the input and output port names in my Standalone will work with something like loopMIDI on the Mac as well.

Compile a Windows patch into a Mac Standalone - Please!

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Hi Andy, sure I would offer to compile max standalone for you,

only few differences need to be done, like window positioning,

dealing with midi ports ( mac much easier, cause of IAC busses

and no restrictions that multipe apps use same midi ports)

but you standalone inspector shows no proper settings,

like prefs name (should be linked to app name)

On mac, virtual ports to and from your standalone can be used for midi communication

Hi Andy, if you own a reasonably modern Windows PC you can run OSX on a virtual maschine. (I'm doing this since years) VMWARE (Player) is free, OSX images are free and you will find tons of tutorials for the installation routine. just in case...

@11Olsen I thought I'd give that a try to see what happens. Installing VMPlayer was easy enough. Took 9hrs to download the ISO for Monterey but then installing it was pretty quick. I also installed VMTools as recommended but I was stunned by how slow it all was. Even typing in a password was painful. So I allowed System to do the update to Sonoma 14.4 and that went fine. But it's still sooooooo slooow in actual use.

I have a relatively new PC that I would not describe as sluggish at all. It's an Intel 10th Gen i9 processor with 18 cores and I've partitioned of 9 cores just for VMPlayer. I can, at least, run my Windows system along VMPlayer again without any holdups but the 9 cores running VMPlayer are running maxed out all the time and yet every mouse click and keyboard press is taking about 10secs to do anything!!

The other thing is that I can't enable hardware acceleration as VMPlayer says that, "The guest software doesn't support it"!

I really would have though it would be better than this! Any suggestions? Is the Workstation Pro version any better I wonder? Bit of a risk trying that though at $200 if it doesn't work.

It seems to be a known problem but I never had it. I only give it 2 cores and 4gb ram and the virtual harddisk is saved on ssd. I don't have noticeable lag when using mouse and keyboard. Sorry, i really don't know why it's slow for you, your cpu is sufficient.

Ahhh... maybe I was giving it too much virtual hardware to play with? I've cut it down to 4 cores and 4Gb of RAM and it's running A LOT faster! More experimentation needed!

VMPlayer is not going to be a workable solution for me. It's just way too slow to be usable! I'm trying to see if I can set up a dual boot system on my PC instead. It should be possible if I can find the right EFI boot files!

Is it worth the struggle just to compile one standalone ?

If you are new to hackintosh it can take a long time to get everything going

If you decide to get into it, I would warmly advice you to

disconnect windows hard drives, and use dedicated SSD

Also, you are not forced to go for latest MacOS.

but also allows removal of unneeded services and make system more responsive.

I actually do most work at home on Hackintosh now 12 years old with HighSierra.

@SourceAudio - Not really, not for one standalone.

But, there are other things I could do if I had access to a Mac so it's worth a try. I could have a go at adapting my main project for other users as well but that's a much bigger job!

I'm already realising that doing this is no walk in the park. I'm giving up on the idea if I don't get it working today.

You are in no rush, so if you see a benefit of having running Mac system,

Main thing is : list all hardware you have, and check

which parts are compatible with which MacOS version.

The rest can be ... more or less added later, like ethernet, wifi, bluetooth and so on.

if you want to test that little standalone in the meantime, I will upload it.

@SourceAudio Well it's been an ordeal and I still haven't got there - yet! I've read loads of articles and tried all sorts of settings, hacks and quirks but I can't get much beyond the initial boot loader. The best I've achieved is to get as far as when the USB ports are analysed. And there appears to be no solution to using my GeForce GTX1070 graphics card. 

I'm beginning to realise that there might be a loose correlation between the apparent development of Open Source slowing down (or even coming to a halt) and the change from OSX Catalina to BigSur. The more I read, the more I can see that Apple changing back from expandable Mac desktops to monoblock, non-expandable boxes corresponds with a lack of support for modern PCIe devices.

I can still run Monterey in Hyper-V in a small window but there appears to be no solution to running it on a full 1080i/p display, let alone on multiple monitors.

So I think the next effort will be to try installing an older OSX such as Catalina or even HighSierra and see if that will work with my cranky HP motherboard and its assembled PCIe cards.

Are you able to tell me whether you have ever tried updating from HighSierra to something newer, like Catalina? Or have you not done so because of increasing compatability issues?

but don't use it since HighSierra is so much faster and does what I need.

When time comes that I become "incompatible" again, I'll plug it in.

I have numerous  real Macbooks  Pro's that can run from OS9 to newest OS if needed.

But I keep them only for dedicated tasks.

I still use clover bootloader for my hardware, EFI is ok for all systems from 10.13 to 10.15

(it works fine also with onboard IntelHD, but not 2x 2560x1440 which I need),

 gigabyte GA77ds3h which has compatible ethernet, I added compatible firewire, WIFI and bluetooth ripped off one iMac and plugged into motherboard usb terminal.

or at least components that you really need to use ?

@SoureceAudio: My hardware is as follows...

CPU: Intel Core i9 10980XE Cascade Lake-X 18 cores

MOBO: HP/Acidanthera Intel Chipset Skylake-X Southbridge Intel X299

SSD: 1 x 2Tb WD Blue M2 NVMe for Windows system (on main mobo)

 1 x 2Tb WD Blue SATA formatted ready for MacOS (APFS) (SATA port 4)

            2 x 2Tb & 2 x 4Tb WD SATA used for sound files (SATA ports 0 to 3)

            4 x 2Tb WD Blue M2 NVMe on PCIe card used as Windows Space 8Tb drive for data

             2 Empty (overhang from GPU card)

             3 SSD M2 quad card loaded with 4 x WD Blue 2Tb NVMe (as above)

             4 5Port USB3 card (+ connector for 2 further internal ports - not used)

             5 Elgato CamLink Pro 4 port HDMI video capture

Of these, I've underlined the essentials, although the additional USB ports on the card in PCIe slot 4 would be really handy!

Do I uderstand that you allready have Acidanthera opencore EFI installed ?

Your hardware configuration is much newer than mine,

I thought I could send disk Image with everything installed,

Booting from non SSD drive would be somewhat slow if you use

If I remember correctly your CPU won't run with older systems,

but GTX1070 GPU won't run on anything higher than High Sierra.

Means you have to install different card,

like AMD RX 580 , or other compatible one.

@SourceAudio: Sorry, my table wasn't clear enough perhaps but all my drives are SSD. I'd be quite happy using High Sierra if I could get anything that fills a whole screen! Better still if it would support all 4 monitors. I kept my old GPU from my previous PC when I upgraded. It works really well on Windows so I'm loathe to change it again and the AMD RX580 does not have enough display ports.

I've tried both the standard OpenCore stuff and the Acidanthra downloads from Dortania but it seems to be one step forward and two steps back all the time. At the moment, I've gone from something that froze after a reasonable way into the installation to something that doesn't even appear as a bootable option when I reboot the PC!

Perhaps if you would be willing to share your config.plist file, it might give me some clues as to what I'm doing wrong.

As I mentioned, your GPU will not work on anything higher than high sierra.

That means no full max 8.6 support. No node.js , no RNBO.

And my informations say that your Motherboard/CPU won't run out of the box on high sierra.

Why on earth you want macOS to run with 4 monitors just to compile few max standalones ?

If you plan to switch to MacOS instead of windows, and use hackintosh,

ther you must have fully supported hardware,

and after getting initial OS to run, then solve all problems, like

If you want High Sierra, It would run ok in virtual box, I am sure.

Maybe you could start the whole procedure  fresh with :

and pick system version from guides menu.

you will find efi for both opencore and clover, including BIOS settings

https://www.olarila.com/topic/5676-hackintosh-efi-folder-with-clover-and-opencore/

Not desperate to use all 4 moniors, just having one screen at 1920x1080 would do. I'll follow the links and see if I can find anything new.

Turns out that hackintosh won’t run on my mobo if the BIOS has updated from v1.x to v2.x, which mine came with from new. Furthermore, the latest version known to work, v1.76, is no longer available from any official source and those copies that are available are blocked from installing by some sort of policy system built into the newer versions. The effect is that the installation freezes at the exact point that I had been able to reach.

There was talk of OpenCore and Clover developing updates to work with these boards two or three years ago but there is nothing new since then. As I said earlier, the developers appear to have lost interest since Apple changed their architecture.

So, it looks as though, despite my CPU being compatible, my GPU is too old and my motherboard too new!

but as I allready mentioned, one gets compatible hardware

I could try to make trimmed down catalina Installation in virtualbox

on windows 10 and see if it runs at least in acceptable speed.

with i5 and intelHD 4000, then it should on your machine too...

No thank you, but it's very kind of you to offer. I've already tried VirtualBox and it was too slow. The advantage of using Hyper-V is that it runs MacOS as native code rather than running it through an interpreter first - unless you know of a means to bypass the interpreter?

I'm going to have another go at following the TonyMac method, using the Clover kexts, etc. instead of OpenCore. There are some slightly modified versions of the kexts for Clover running on HEDT machines that might just save the day! It's a tedious process but with each attempt I'm getting faster as I am learning what matters and what doesn't.