equanimous

Hello, I don't know if there is another place to ask for new features, but I cannot use the wonderful Mira technology without the support for BPatcher in my project.

Nesting the Mira.Frame inside them is not enough for me...

bpatcher-needed-in-mira

I can tell you it's right at the top of my to-do list, if that's any comfort. Believe me, I want bpatcher as well. Nesting mira.frame inside them is not enough for me either.

I'm glad to hear that Sam, I'll be patient!  

What do you think also of the idea of a free(or cheap) runtime version of Mira for IOS for the user who would get my Standalone version of my actual patch...  

Thank, and tell me, what is the banana output sound :) ?


Just wondering if bpatcher support will be making its way to Mira anytime soon? I could really do with it!


Oh, you know. One of these days. iPhone support is probably next on the docket, but honestly there are so many fish frying all over the place over here that it's hard to say for sure when anything will be ready.

Hope that's not too annoying. Again, personally bpatcher would be a big win for me as well.


To be fair your on it like a car bonnet. In your own time pal. Waveform~ would be don too but I keep reading it's not that valued as an object. Personally I don't make a single patch that doesn't use it. Your YouTube videos are massively appreciated too.


Just started looking at Mira as a possible replacement for my current approach (Lemur + OSC communicating with Max). It seems absolutely wonderful based on my initial experiments. Unfortunately, most of my UI items live deep inside bpatchers (often nested) which are often then grouped inside yet more bpatchers. 

Mira would have to be able to see various subsets of my top level view.

Is this something that's coming soon or do I need to stick with Lemur?


I have to say I'm really very impressed with Mira. I did a workaround and just made send/receive connections to the underlying UI controls and just made a new collection of controls and put a mira.frame over them.
Even though Lemur is a very nice tool, if one already uses Max, then Mira is a much more convenient solution.


Another vote for bpatcher! Mira's handy because it lets you build very custom interface components - and often you want to have those apply to multiple channels. Bpatcher would make it much easier since we could edit a component in one place, rather than for every channel.


I just got Mira and bpatchers were the first thing I noticed that was missing.


I know software updating is difficult and I don't want to be unkind. I paid $50 for Mira and it is high time for an update.  I would certainly pay for that too.  The last promise I see was 2013.  Please!!!


PS.  I used Mira successfully on a project in 2014.  Bought an iPad specifically because Mira was available.  Now into another major project for summer 2016 and I really need all of the promised features and more.  The ideal would be that Mira mirrors all of the features of Max.


Well it's 2017, about three years later and there's still no bpathcher support. And not even support for some *really* basic items like text buttons. I love Max and cycling74 but after dropping $10 and god knows what on an iPad, I expected a more professional product. Really disappointed here, is there any chance at all for an update or are MIRA users destined to be stuck with an unfinished product?


@JEFF, take a look at Miraweb, a mostly open source project that hopefully provides the possibility for the community to make all sorts of UI elements in a browser to control Max. Read more here:
https://cycling74.com/articles/content-you-need-miraweb/

I'll offer another vote of confidence for miraweb. It's pretty amazing, to be honest. (and this is coming from someone who still dreams of bpatchers too!)


@Ben thanks for the tip, miraweb is pretty good in terms of platform support, but still bafflingly lacking in basic tools like textbutton and bpatcher. I guess I'll either wait for an update or fork the git project myself   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


@JEFF Yeah, we all want bpatcher, including me! But, bpatcher poses some difficult issues to overcome as it involves traversing patcher hierarchy and navigating a bunch of other not-so-easy to deal with components. 

Another vote for bpatcher support.
7 years now?


haha. 2021. No BpM.
The top of that 'to-do' list...!

it really would be beneficial for a stupid amount of reason. I appreciate the work that goes into developing anything.
but 7/8 years of waiting needs to come to an end. because people want to use Mira, not go to other sources where it is another long winded affair & may not work fully to how you want

so please, update. I've had Mira since the very beginning & cant use it, because 'top of the list', doesn't seem to be 'top of the list'

I also bought the app around 2013 and adapted some of my patches and workflow to work with Mira on my iPad. I think that the whole point of the app is to control max right away. If you need to create special interface patches to interact with it,  the whole sense of the immediacy is lost. I know that coding in max requires time and its far away from the consumer apps for IOS. 

A lot of effort has been given to create nice Vizzie and Beap modules in the past years, all of them are Bparchers for a good reason right? 

I would love to hear someone from Cycling74 honestly saying: well we tried but it’s not possible and it’s never going to be. 

That way I could stop visiting this post every year since the last seven years :)

wholeheartedly agree with you Pagarreton. we want word of what is happening

its that long in the tooth, its practically a sabre tooth tiger & feels just as extinct

its been over a month. can we please get a word from the higher ups on what is happening. even if you are going to do bugger all & not do anything with MIRA anymore.
because for 4 years, there has been no cycling74 person that has answered since. this not only brings doubt to the situation, but just is not good in general

so please, gives us an answer, whether bad or good. i dont care at this point, i/we just want an answer

p.s.
yes, i know COVID-19 has brought some stand still to businesses. but we have all been dealing with this for over a year now, so that doesnt really mean much, since as said, we have all been dealing with it

adding my +1 for bPatcher support. Any movement on this? It seems like it's been on the list for features to implement since 2013?

+ iPad M series
+ iPad 16" coming
+ Massive Mira Update
= pleeeeze!


another +1 for bpatcher mira support from me. :)
got an ipad for other reasons but grabbed mira today. was really stunned you can't put mira frame over a collection of bpatchers. clearly i am not the first one to feel this way :)
thx!

No need to add bpatcher to Mira! hehe -  Here is an elegant solution for controlling a zillion bpatchers with 1 Mira patch!

Added bonus - all the controls (except very basic like "on" off") are hidden on the laptop and open in floating mode! (I really super needed that) - free's up miles of real estate.

Hint: once you manually set the receives in the bpatchers, you can just use Mira. 

***Note to self -Maybe add an "open" "close" buttons to Mira for opening bpatcers using the same send/recieve logic.

Really hope that Max 9 updates the mira.frame so we dont have to keep using lemur or touch osc. 
Please fix Bpatcher support, and other interface elements that wont display properly in mira.frame <3

every day now I'm thinking - "if I am over there with my pad (Mira) and my laptop is wayyyy over there (with all my patches sized really tiny for maximum frame rate), it would really be great to have a live.scope and jit.pwindow in Mira!

Bpatcher needed in Mira

Philip Mantione

First time posting here.  Have a gig on Saturday so I'm hoping to figure this out. 

I'm using:
Ableton Live 9
MacBook Pro 2.8 i7 with OS 10.11.5
MAX 7.2.3 with Mira
iPAD Air 2 (model MGTX2LL/A) with OS 9.3.4
iConnect Audio4+ Interface

Using MIRA to control both a Stand-alone Max patch and a custom M4L device in Ableton.

Works great! Except, when I change apps on the iPad I get a momentary audio dropout on any audio files being played by Ableton as well as live inputs.  I have tried a straight WiFi internet connection and a local network...same result.

It's almost as if MIRA has to reconnect whenever I change apps. I looked for a "run in background" setting but did not see one.  Other apps allow flawless switching without dropouts.

switching-to-mira-from-other-apps-causes-audio-dropouts

Phil, sorry to resurrect a dead thread (especially whilst offering no help), curious to know if you resolved the issue.

Switching to MIRA from other apps causes audio dropouts

Simon Dawes

Considering an iConnectAUDIO2+ or 4C interface.

Is anyone able to confirm whether these interfaces can support MIRA when connected via the iConnect's dual USB ports instead of over network?

Hi all,
Considering an iConnectAUDIO2+ or 4C interface.
Is anyone able to confirm whether these interfaces can support MIRA when connected ... 

does-iconnectaudio24c-support-mira-over-usb

Does iConnectAUDIO2+/4C support MIRA over USB?

Pete Lalonde

Does anyone know a simple way to auto connect to a miraweb patch and avoid getting the connection prompt when you load the page in the browser?

With the port never changing and that I'm using a static IP I would like to avoid users having to see the connection prompt and possibly become alarmed by it.

Hello,
Does anyone know a simple way to auto connect to a miraweb patch and avoid getting the connection prompt when you load the page in th

miraweb-auto-connect

Hmm.   Im not sure if there is an option for this. in miraweb as it is .  If you have time and depending on the project you could check xebra.js wich does virtually the same that miraweb does , but requires more effort .


I've worked with xebra.js however (unless there's something I'm missing) it can't display your patcher like MiraWeb does which would require me to rebuild the UI. Carlo; as you say it would require more effort, and a significant amount of more time. :-/ 

Exactly , you need to rebuild the UI then it becomes much longer procces. Try to ask in the github page or make a feature request , since your target makes sense for many people I guess including me .   Is just not needed to have it there when connecting .  
Another option would be to dig in the miraweb source and rebuild with your changes

Anyone yet succeeded in connecting directly? Preferably in full screen...

a bit of a hack to avoid getting in the app.js
I add this to my index.html for autoconnect, the same way could be used for the fullscreen:

// Check if the button with specific class names exists

var button = document.querySelector('.mw-button.mw-button--style--primary.mw-button--size--md');

// If the button exists, simulate a click event

MiraWeb Auto Connect

dnealelo

Hello Braintrust -- I keep getting this error popping up in my console when I'm running a patch with Mira in it:  

xebra_global: XEBListeningConnection_ListenProc: Error accepting connection: 670008 nodename nor servname provided, or not known

The connection appears to work fine, but the error pops up every several seconds, so it interferes with using my console to track output while I'm problem solving the patch.  I am running the latest versions of Max and Mira on OS X Yosemite 10.10.5 (it's a 2010 iMac, so I'm kind of done upgrading the OS) and iOS 9.3.5 on an iPad3.  

Can anyone direct me what to do to fix this error?


xebra-error-above-my-pay-grade

I have the same issue with Max 7.3.4 on my mid-2015 MBP, El Capitain, with iOS 11.1.2 on an iPad Air 2, running MIRA 1.2.1 - it's probably trivial, but it would be good to know...

Well, years and many Max versions later (currently 8.5.3) , I'm still getting this error: xebra_global: XEBListeningConnection_ListenProc: Error accepting connection: 670008 nodename nor servname provided, or not known

same :
xebra_global: XEBListeningConnection_ListenProc: Error accepting connection: 670008 nodename nor servname provided, or not known

Same for me: Apple M1 Pro, Mac os: 12.6.4

Also they appears after deleting the mira patch inside.


MIRA for me as an av performer and PhD researcher, has been one of THE most helpful and liberating software devs in MAX  - because it allows us to move from numbers to gesture!  

Below is a what ChatGPT said in response to my question: “Is there any possible explanation for why this error appears in MAX/MSP: ‘xebra_global: XEBListeningConnection_ListenProc: Error accepting connection: 670008 nodename nor servname provided, or not known’?

 “The error message "xebra_global: XEBListeningConnection_ListenProc: Error accepting connection: 670008 nodename nor servname provided, or not known" in MAX/MSP's MIRA can occur for a few different reasons.

One possible explanation is that the Xebra server is not running or is not installed properly. In this case, MAX/MSP is unable to establish a connection with the server and generates the error message.

Another possibility is that there is an issue with the network settings or firewall configuration, preventing the connection from being established. This can include issues such as incorrect network addresses or port numbers, or firewalls blocking the connection.

Additionally, the error message could also indicate a problem with the MAX/MSP or MIRA software itself, such as a bug or compatibility issue. In this case, the error message would likely appear consistently or in a particular set of circumstances.

To troubleshoot this error, it's important to check the Xebra server status, network settings, and firewall configuration, and ensure that they are all set up correctly. It may also be helpful to consult the MAX/MSP and MIRA documentation, and to search online forums for similar issues and solutions.”

Xebra error above my pay grade

Rory Burke

I'm trying to launch Miraweb on Windows running Max 8. The console shows the error "Max could not launch URL. err = 1223", and I am not sure how to fix this. I'm just using the Miraweb launch that comes with the package.

I'm trying to launch Miraweb on Windows running Max 8. The console shows the error "Max could not launch URL. err = 1223", and I am not sure

max-could-not-launch-url-miraweb

I'm getting the same issue, and the "click to open web browser on this machine" doesn't work either. Any help?

I also have the same issue. Did you ever resolve this?

Max could not launch URL, Miraweb

Flo B

Hi there, 

i was wondering if anyone is having the same problem or if it has something to do with my input device. 
When i move my fingers off the edges of the screen, mira.multitouch keeps the removed finger as an active circle on the border (move state = 2). So the count of fingers increases as soon as i put my finger back on the screen again – increasing the fingercount steadily until it reaches the maximum of 12.

There is no reset / clear message for the mira.multitouch, so i can only delete the entire mira.multitouch object at this point and make a new one, which makes it unusable :/ 

Any help? 

Further Details: 
- I'm using the miraweb version on chrome
- using an android smartphone as multitouch input
- always occours, independently of the mira.multitouch size to the mira.frame or the mira.multitouch distance to the physical boarder of the phone

Hi there, 

i was wondering if anyone is having the same problem or if it has something to do with my input device. 
When i move my fingers 

mira-multitouch-lost-fingers-fingercount-issue-egde-loss

Hey, same problem here, but it happens on IOS, both on iPhone and iPad using miraWeb. I do have the MIRA app on my iPad (I am using miraWeb for my students) and there the problem does not happen. So I guess it has to do with the browser 

Hi Flo B and Stefano, thank you, I can reproduce this on mobile chrome and will get this ticketed with engineering — interestingly, I see this behavior specifically on chrome. If I view the same miraweb frame using safari, it works as I'd expect. 

If you have more info (like other browsers you've tested on, other devices) you can share, feel free to post it here or send it in an email to support@cycling74.com

I can reproduce it also in safari  ('normal' iPad 10.2" 2020)


Hi Alex, sorry for the long wait. I've currently only tested it as described in the first post. 
It's to this day still an issue I'm affraid,  but I'll try my way around using a different browser :) 
Thanks for the effort,  
Cheers

BUMP! anybody has a solution to the problem? Each semester I'd love to show multitouch to my students but this issue makes it unreliable...
Cheers
Stefano

there seems to be a problem also with the mt.rotate, there is no output for radians and the angular velocity has very low and jittery values. I am always speaking about mira web, all is fine when using the app. Problem seems to be the same with safari, chrome and firefox


Hi Stefano, thank you for following up here. I've bumped the fingercount issue for engineering, and made a new ticket to track the [mira.mt.rotate] issue, which I can reproduce.  

Hey, same issue here, except on iOS, affecting miraWeb-enabled iPhone and iPad. On my iPad, when I use MiraWeb for my students, the MIRA software, the issue does not occur. So I suppose the browser is to blame. 

mira.multitouch lost fingers / fingercount issue / egde loss

When adding mc.meter to presentation it works and behaves nicely. But on Mira it only displays the first meter and only horizontally.

When adding mc.meter to presentation it works and behaves nicely. But on Mira it only displays the first meter and only horizontally.
I'm gu

mc-meter~-not-behaving-in-mira

For me, it only displays the first 2 channels of a 6-channel signal.

mc.meter~ not behaving in Mira.

Ullstein

I open a mira.frame on a Mac Studio Ultra and it appears for 2 seconds in the regular way, only to change into a grey rectangle with the green square on the left top, but unadjustable, cannot move it nor change the size. Clicking on it does not activate it. No inspector acres. But I can move objects onto it which then appear on the iPad but much to large because the frame has the start size, which is small.
Seems like a bug, because it is repeatable, always the same.

I open a mira.frame on a Mac Studio Ultra and it appears for 2 seconds in the regular way, only to change into a grey rectangle with the ... 

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mira.frame not adjustable on Mac

Esteban Xbender

Hello everyone. when I click to open web browser on this machine message in miraweb I am getting ''max could not launch url, err=1223'' message error.  Does anyone can help to this issue?

miraweb-err_1223

We've stumbled into the same issue a few hours apart! Seems the issue is specifically with version 1.2.7, the workaround for now is to downgrade to 1.2.6:

On the package manager page for Miraweb, click "Show All Available Versions" and click 1.2.6. Now there should be a blue button for you to click which says "Downgrade to v1.2.6"...or maybe just "Install" if you don't have it installed anymore.

Apparently they're working on a solution, other people have reported the same issue:
https://cycling74.com/forums/miraweb-not-working-on-windows-after-upgrading-to-max-8-3-2-and-miraweb-1-2-7 
https://cycling74.com/forums/max-could-not-launch-url-miraweb 

Miraweb, err_1223 

Ben Bracken

We've released a small update to the Miraweb Package, as well as published updates to Xebra.js and Xebra-Communicator on NPM.

For a more detailed overview of involved bugfixes and enhancements  please refer to the change log below or visit the GitHub repository (https://github.com/Cycling74/miraweb)

You can find Miraweb 1.2.5 in the Max Package Manager.

Xebra.js and Xebra-Communicator are on NPM:
https://www.npmjs.com/package/xebra.js
https://www.npmjs.com/package/xebra-communicator 

number: no longer produces unnecessary NaN

Pixi.js: removed custom PixiJS dependency

Max 8 compatibility: live.dial, message, umenu, meter~

live.tab: only output when tab selection changes

We've released a small update to the Miraweb Package, as well as published updates to Xebra.js and Xebra-Communicator on NPM.
For a more det

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We've released a small update to the Miraweb Package, as well as published updates to Xebra.js and Xebra-Communicator on NPM. For a more ...

every day now I'm thinking - "if I am over there with my pad (Mira) and my laptop is wayyyy over there (with all my patches sized really ...

Phil, sorry to resurrect a dead thread (especially whilst offering no help), curious to know if you resolved the issue.

Hi all, Considering an iConnectAUDIO2+ or 4C interface. Is anyone able to confirm whether these interfaces can support MIRA when connected ...

a bit of a hack to avoid getting in the app.js I add this to my index.html for autoconnect, the same way could be used for the ...

MIRA for me as an av performer and PhD researcher, has been one of THE most helpful and liberating software devs in MAX - because it ...

I also have the same issue. Did you ever resolve this?

thanks for the support!

For me, it only displays the first 2 channels of a 6-channel signal.

I open a mira.frame on a Mac Studio Ultra and it appears for 2 seconds in the regular way, only to change into a grey rectangle with the ...

Thank you a lot my friend. It's worked.