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equanimous

Hello, I don't know if there is another place to ask for new features, but I cannot use the wonderful Mira technology without the support for BPatcher in my project.

Nesting the Mira.Frame inside them is not enough for me...

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I can tell you it's right at the top of my to-do list, if that's any comfort. Believe me, I want bpatcher as well. Nesting mira.frame inside them is not enough for me either.

I'm glad to hear that Sam, I'll be patient!  

What do you think also of the idea of a free(or cheap) runtime version of Mira for IOS for the user who would get my Standalone version of my actual patch...  

Thank, and tell me, what is the banana output sound :) ?


Just wondering if bpatcher support will be making its way to Mira anytime soon? I could really do with it!


Oh, you know. One of these days. iPhone support is probably next on the docket, but honestly there are so many fish frying all over the place over here that it's hard to say for sure when anything will be ready.

Hope that's not too annoying. Again, personally bpatcher would be a big win for me as well.


To be fair your on it like a car bonnet. In your own time pal. Waveform~ would be don too but I keep reading it's not that valued as an object. Personally I don't make a single patch that doesn't use it. Your YouTube videos are massively appreciated too.


Just started looking at Mira as a possible replacement for my current approach (Lemur + OSC communicating with Max). It seems absolutely wonderful based on my initial experiments. Unfortunately, most of my UI items live deep inside bpatchers (often nested) which are often then grouped inside yet more bpatchers. 

Mira would have to be able to see various subsets of my top level view.

Is this something that's coming soon or do I need to stick with Lemur?


I have to say I'm really very impressed with Mira. I did a workaround and just made send/receive connections to the underlying UI controls and just made a new collection of controls and put a mira.frame over them.
Even though Lemur is a very nice tool, if one already uses Max, then Mira is a much more convenient solution.


Another vote for bpatcher! Mira's handy because it lets you build very custom interface components - and often you want to have those apply to multiple channels. Bpatcher would make it much easier since we could edit a component in one place, rather than for every channel.


I just got Mira and bpatchers were the first thing I noticed that was missing.


I know software updating is difficult and I don't want to be unkind. I paid $50 for Mira and it is high time for an update.  I would certainly pay for that too.  The last promise I see was 2013.  Please!!!


PS.  I used Mira successfully on a project in 2014.  Bought an iPad specifically because Mira was available.  Now into another major project for summer 2016 and I really need all of the promised features and more.  The ideal would be that Mira mirrors all of the features of Max.


Well it's 2017, about three years later and there's still no bpathcher support. And not even support for some *really* basic items like text buttons. I love Max and cycling74 but after dropping $10 and god knows what on an iPad, I expected a more professional product. Really disappointed here, is there any chance at all for an update or are MIRA users destined to be stuck with an unfinished product?


@JEFF, take a look at Miraweb, a mostly open source project that hopefully provides the possibility for the community to make all sorts of UI elements in a browser to control Max. Read more here:
https://cycling74.com/articles/content-you-need-miraweb/

I'll offer another vote of confidence for miraweb. It's pretty amazing, to be honest. (and this is coming from someone who still dreams of bpatchers too!)


@Ben thanks for the tip, miraweb is pretty good in terms of platform support, but still bafflingly lacking in basic tools like textbutton and bpatcher. I guess I'll either wait for an update or fork the git project myself   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


@JEFF Yeah, we all want bpatcher, including me! But, bpatcher poses some difficult issues to overcome as it involves traversing patcher hierarchy and navigating a bunch of other not-so-easy to deal with components. 

Another vote for bpatcher support.
7 years now?


haha. 2021. No BpM.
The top of that 'to-do' list...!

it really would be beneficial for a stupid amount of reason. I appreciate the work that goes into developing anything.
but 7/8 years of waiting needs to come to an end. because people want to use Mira, not go to other sources where it is another long winded affair & may not work fully to how you want

so please, update. I've had Mira since the very beginning & cant use it, because 'top of the list', doesn't seem to be 'top of the list'

I also bought the app around 2013 and adapted some of my patches and workflow to work with Mira on my iPad. I think that the whole point of the app is to control max right away. If you need to create special interface patches to interact with it,  the whole sense of the immediacy is lost. I know that coding in max requires time and its far away from the consumer apps for IOS. 

A lot of effort has been given to create nice Vizzie and Beap modules in the past years, all of them are Bparchers for a good reason right? 

I would love to hear someone from Cycling74 honestly saying: well we tried but it’s not possible and it’s never going to be. 

That way I could stop visiting this post every year since the last seven years :)

wholeheartedly agree with you Pagarreton. we want word of what is happening

its that long in the tooth, its practically a sabre tooth tiger & feels just as extinct

its been over a month. can we please get a word from the higher ups on what is happening. even if you are going to do bugger all & not do anything with MIRA anymore.
because for 4 years, there has been no cycling74 person that has answered since. this not only brings doubt to the situation, but just is not good in general

so please, gives us an answer, whether bad or good. i dont care at this point, i/we just want an answer

p.s.
yes, i know COVID-19 has brought some stand still to businesses. but we have all been dealing with this for over a year now, so that doesnt really mean much, since as said, we have all been dealing with it

adding my +1 for bPatcher support. Any movement on this? It seems like it's been on the list for features to implement since 2013?

+ iPad M series
+ iPad 16" coming
+ Massive Mira Update
= pleeeeze!


another +1 for bpatcher mira support from me. :)
got an ipad for other reasons but grabbed mira today. was really stunned you can't put mira frame over a collection of bpatchers. clearly i am not the first one to feel this way :)
thx!

No need to add bpatcher to Mira! hehe -  Here is an elegant solution for controlling a zillion bpatchers with 1 Mira patch!

Added bonus - all the controls (except very basic like "on" off") are hidden on the laptop and open in floating mode! (I really super needed that) - free's up miles of real estate.

Hint: once you manually set the receives in the bpatchers, you can just use Mira. 

***Note to self -Maybe add an "open" "close" buttons to Mira for opening bpatcers using the same send/recieve logic.

Really hope that Max 9 updates the mira.frame so we dont have to keep using lemur or touch osc. 
Please fix Bpatcher support, and other interface elements that wont display properly in mira.frame <3

every day now I'm thinking - "if I am over there with my pad (Mira) and my laptop is wayyyy over there (with all my patches sized really tiny for maximum frame rate), it would really be great to have a live.scope and jit.pwindow in Mira!

Bpatcher needed in Mira

Huyen Duong

Hello, Sorry if this has come up already, it is just an idea I wanted to submit. As a M4L user with lots of homemade devices in all my Live sets I find it enormous what mira can already do for me. But since frames can be named I was just wondering: would it be a big effort to enable identically named frames to actually share the same space? Of course it would need some extra effort from the user to make a clear layout because of the potentially overlapping UI elements but it would also allow combining UI elements from separate M4L devices into one frame. Instead of using redundant send and receive back and forth between M4L devices... Thank you for considering;)

 Hello, Sorry if this has come up already, it is just an idea I wanted to submit. As a M4L user with lots of homemade devices in all my Live

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Merging frame

Fergus Johnston

fpic objects display on my laptop, but not in Mira. Why not?

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fpic not displaying

Rory Burke

I'm trying to launch Miraweb on Windows running Max 8. The console shows the error "Max could not launch URL. err = 1223", and I am not sure how to fix this. I'm just using the Miraweb launch that comes with the package.

I'm trying to launch Miraweb on Windows running Max 8. The console shows the error "Max could not launch URL. err = 1223", and I am not sure

max-could-not-launch-url-miraweb

I'm getting the same issue, and the "click to open web browser on this machine" doesn't work either. Any help?

I also have the same issue. Did you ever resolve this?

Max could not launch URL, Miraweb

Robin Parmar

When I build an app of any complexity, I try to follow best practice for separating interface and algorithm (a pragmatic approach to MVC). This means that my interface elements are in one or more [bpatcher]. If I apply [mira.frame] to the presentation view, none of these show up. If the frame is in the abstraction itself, these show up, but take up an entire tab on the browser.

Just wondering as to the likelihood of seeing support for the parent view of [bpatcher] in the future?

When I build an app of any complexity, I try to follow best practice for separating interface and algorithm (a pragmatic approach to MVC). This means that my interface elements are in one or more [bpatcher]. If I apply [mira.frame] to the presentation view, none of these show up. If the frame is in the abstraction itself, these show up, but take up an entire tab on the browser. 

mira-bpatcher-support

bpatcher support was "next on the list" in 2013, I wouldn't get your hopes up...


Using the Presentation Mode to organize your interface/processing works fine *and* plays well with Mira, of course....


@Max, what do you mean by this? It seems to not respond to Robins request?

@Robin I support this wish as well. Right now I have had to add additional inlets to all my bpatchers that let me essentially make a redundant gui outside the bpatcher. It's somewhat frustrating, as bpatchers really are best practice in max... 

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