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Hello, I don't know if there is another place to ask for new features, but I cannot use the wonderful Mira technology without the support for BPatcher in my project.

Nesting the Mira.Frame inside them is not enough for me...

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I can tell you it's right at the top of my to-do list, if that's any comfort. Believe me, I want bpatcher as well. Nesting mira.frame inside them is not enough for me either.

I'm glad to hear that Sam, I'll be patient!  

What do you think also of the idea of a free(or cheap) runtime version of Mira for IOS for the user who would get my Standalone version of my actual patch...  

Thank, and tell me, what is the banana output sound :) ?


Just wondering if bpatcher support will be making its way to Mira anytime soon? I could really do with it!


Oh, you know. One of these days. iPhone support is probably next on the docket, but honestly there are so many fish frying all over the place over here that it's hard to say for sure when anything will be ready.

Hope that's not too annoying. Again, personally bpatcher would be a big win for me as well.


To be fair your on it like a car bonnet. In your own time pal. Waveform~ would be don too but I keep reading it's not that valued as an object. Personally I don't make a single patch that doesn't use it. Your YouTube videos are massively appreciated too.


Just started looking at Mira as a possible replacement for my current approach (Lemur + OSC communicating with Max). It seems absolutely wonderful based on my initial experiments. Unfortunately, most of my UI items live deep inside bpatchers (often nested) which are often then grouped inside yet more bpatchers. 

Mira would have to be able to see various subsets of my top level view.

Is this something that's coming soon or do I need to stick with Lemur?


I have to say I'm really very impressed with Mira. I did a workaround and just made send/receive connections to the underlying UI controls and just made a new collection of controls and put a mira.frame over them.
Even though Lemur is a very nice tool, if one already uses Max, then Mira is a much more convenient solution.


Another vote for bpatcher! Mira's handy because it lets you build very custom interface components - and often you want to have those apply to multiple channels. Bpatcher would make it much easier since we could edit a component in one place, rather than for every channel.


I just got Mira and bpatchers were the first thing I noticed that was missing.


I know software updating is difficult and I don't want to be unkind. I paid $50 for Mira and it is high time for an update.  I would certainly pay for that too.  The last promise I see was 2013.  Please!!!


PS.  I used Mira successfully on a project in 2014.  Bought an iPad specifically because Mira was available.  Now into another major project for summer 2016 and I really need all of the promised features and more.  The ideal would be that Mira mirrors all of the features of Max.


Well it's 2017, about three years later and there's still no bpathcher support. And not even support for some *really* basic items like text buttons. I love Max and cycling74 but after dropping $10 and god knows what on an iPad, I expected a more professional product. Really disappointed here, is there any chance at all for an update or are MIRA users destined to be stuck with an unfinished product?


@JEFF, take a look at Miraweb, a mostly open source project that hopefully provides the possibility for the community to make all sorts of UI elements in a browser to control Max. Read more here:
https://cycling74.com/articles/content-you-need-miraweb/

I'll offer another vote of confidence for miraweb. It's pretty amazing, to be honest. (and this is coming from someone who still dreams of bpatchers too!)


@Ben thanks for the tip, miraweb is pretty good in terms of platform support, but still bafflingly lacking in basic tools like textbutton and bpatcher. I guess I'll either wait for an update or fork the git project myself   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


@JEFF Yeah, we all want bpatcher, including me! But, bpatcher poses some difficult issues to overcome as it involves traversing patcher hierarchy and navigating a bunch of other not-so-easy to deal with components. 

Another vote for bpatcher support.
7 years now?


haha. 2021. No BpM.
The top of that 'to-do' list...!

it really would be beneficial for a stupid amount of reason. I appreciate the work that goes into developing anything.
but 7/8 years of waiting needs to come to an end. because people want to use Mira, not go to other sources where it is another long winded affair & may not work fully to how you want

so please, update. I've had Mira since the very beginning & cant use it, because 'top of the list', doesn't seem to be 'top of the list'

I also bought the app around 2013 and adapted some of my patches and workflow to work with Mira on my iPad. I think that the whole point of the app is to control max right away. If you need to create special interface patches to interact with it,  the whole sense of the immediacy is lost. I know that coding in max requires time and its far away from the consumer apps for IOS. 

A lot of effort has been given to create nice Vizzie and Beap modules in the past years, all of them are Bparchers for a good reason right? 

I would love to hear someone from Cycling74 honestly saying: well we tried but it’s not possible and it’s never going to be. 

That way I could stop visiting this post every year since the last seven years :)

wholeheartedly agree with you Pagarreton. we want word of what is happening

its that long in the tooth, its practically a sabre tooth tiger & feels just as extinct

its been over a month. can we please get a word from the higher ups on what is happening. even if you are going to do bugger all & not do anything with MIRA anymore.
because for 4 years, there has been no cycling74 person that has answered since. this not only brings doubt to the situation, but just is not good in general

so please, gives us an answer, whether bad or good. i dont care at this point, i/we just want an answer

p.s.
yes, i know COVID-19 has brought some stand still to businesses. but we have all been dealing with this for over a year now, so that doesnt really mean much, since as said, we have all been dealing with it

adding my +1 for bPatcher support. Any movement on this? It seems like it's been on the list for features to implement since 2013?

+ iPad M series
+ iPad 16" coming
+ Massive Mira Update
= pleeeeze!


Bpatcher needed in Mira

dnealelo

Hello Braintrust -- I keep getting this error popping up in my console when I'm running a patch with Mira in it:  

xebra_global: XEBListeningConnection_ListenProc: Error accepting connection: 670008 nodename nor servname provided, or not known

The connection appears to work fine, but the error pops up every several seconds, so it interferes with using my console to track output while I'm problem solving the patch.  I am running the latest versions of Max and Mira on OS X Yosemite 10.10.5 (it's a 2010 iMac, so I'm kind of done upgrading the OS) and iOS 9.3.5 on an iPad3.  

Can anyone direct me what to do to fix this error?


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I have the same issue with Max 7.3.4 on my mid-2015 MBP, El Capitain, with iOS 11.1.2 on an iPad Air 2, running MIRA 1.2.1 - it's probably trivial, but it would be good to know...

Well, years and many Max versions later (currently 8.5.3) , I'm still getting this error: xebra_global: XEBListeningConnection_ListenProc: Error accepting connection: 670008 nodename nor servname provided, or not known

same :
xebra_global: XEBListeningConnection_ListenProc: Error accepting connection: 670008 nodename nor servname provided, or not known

Same for me: Apple M1 Pro, Mac os: 12.6.4

Also they appears after deleting the mira patch inside.


MIRA for me as an av performer and PhD researcher, has been one of THE most helpful and liberating software devs in MAX  - because it allows us to move from numbers to gesture!  

Below is a what ChatGPT said in response to my question: “Is there any possible explanation for why this error appears in MAX/MSP: ‘xebra_global: XEBListeningConnection_ListenProc: Error accepting connection: 670008 nodename nor servname provided, or not known’?

 “The error message "xebra_global: XEBListeningConnection_ListenProc: Error accepting connection: 670008 nodename nor servname provided, or not known" in MAX/MSP's MIRA can occur for a few different reasons.

One possible explanation is that the Xebra server is not running or is not installed properly. In this case, MAX/MSP is unable to establish a connection with the server and generates the error message.

Another possibility is that there is an issue with the network settings or firewall configuration, preventing the connection from being established. This can include issues such as incorrect network addresses or port numbers, or firewalls blocking the connection.

Additionally, the error message could also indicate a problem with the MAX/MSP or MIRA software itself, such as a bug or compatibility issue. In this case, the error message would likely appear consistently or in a particular set of circumstances.

To troubleshoot this error, it's important to check the Xebra server status, network settings, and firewall configuration, and ensure that they are all set up correctly. It may also be helpful to consult the MAX/MSP and MIRA documentation, and to search online forums for similar issues and solutions.”

Xebra error above my pay grade

Rory Burke

I'm trying to launch Miraweb on Windows running Max 8. The console shows the error "Max could not launch URL. err = 1223", and I am not sure how to fix this. I'm just using the Miraweb launch that comes with the package.

I'm trying to launch Miraweb on Windows running Max 8. The console shows the error "Max could not launch URL. err = 1223", and I am not sure

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I'm getting the same issue, and the "click to open web browser on this machine" doesn't work either. Any help?

I also have the same issue. Did you ever resolve this?

Max could not launch URL, Miraweb

Flo B

Hi there, 

i was wondering if anyone is having the same problem or if it has something to do with my input device. 
When i move my fingers off the edges of the screen, mira.multitouch keeps the removed finger as an active circle on the border (move state = 2). So the count of fingers increases as soon as i put my finger back on the screen again – increasing the fingercount steadily until it reaches the maximum of 12.

There is no reset / clear message for the mira.multitouch, so i can only delete the entire mira.multitouch object at this point and make a new one, which makes it unusable :/ 

Any help? 

Further Details: 
- I'm using the miraweb version on chrome
- using an android smartphone as multitouch input
- always occours, independently of the mira.multitouch size to the mira.frame or the mira.multitouch distance to the physical boarder of the phone

Hi there, 

i was wondering if anyone is having the same problem or if it has something to do with my input device. 
When i move my fingers 

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Hey, same problem here, but it happens on IOS, both on iPhone and iPad using miraWeb. I do have the MIRA app on my iPad (I am using miraWeb for my students) and there the problem does not happen. So I guess it has to do with the browser 

Hi Flo B and Stefano, thank you, I can reproduce this on mobile chrome and will get this ticketed with engineering — interestingly, I see this behavior specifically on chrome. If I view the same miraweb frame using safari, it works as I'd expect. 

If you have more info (like other browsers you've tested on, other devices) you can share, feel free to post it here or send it in an email to support@cycling74.com

I can reproduce it also in safari  ('normal' iPad 10.2" 2020)


Hi Alex, sorry for the long wait. I've currently only tested it as described in the first post. 
It's to this day still an issue I'm affraid,  but I'll try my way around using a different browser :) 
Thanks for the effort,  
Cheers

BUMP! anybody has a solution to the problem? Each semester I'd love to show multitouch to my students but this issue makes it unreliable...
Cheers
Stefano

there seems to be a problem also with the mt.rotate, there is no output for radians and the angular velocity has very low and jittery values. I am always speaking about mira web, all is fine when using the app. Problem seems to be the same with safari, chrome and firefox


Hi Stefano, thank you for following up here. I've bumped the fingercount issue for engineering, and made a new ticket to track the [mira.mt.rotate] issue, which I can reproduce.  

Hey, same issue here, except on iOS, affecting miraWeb-enabled iPhone and iPad. On my iPad, when I use MiraWeb for my students, the MIRA software, the issue does not occur. So I suppose the browser is to blame. 

mira.multitouch lost fingers / fingercount issue / egde loss

When adding mc.meter to presentation it works and behaves nicely. But on Mira it only displays the first meter and only horizontally.

When adding mc.meter to presentation it works and behaves nicely. But on Mira it only displays the first meter and only horizontally.
I'm gu

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For me, it only displays the first 2 channels of a 6-channel signal.

mc.meter~ not behaving in Mira.

Ullstein

I open a mira.frame on a Mac Studio Ultra and it appears for 2 seconds in the regular way, only to change into a grey rectangle with the green square on the left top, but unadjustable, cannot move it nor change the size. Clicking on it does not activate it. No inspector acres. But I can move objects onto it which then appear on the iPad but much to large because the frame has the start size, which is small.
Seems like a bug, because it is repeatable, always the same.

I open a mira.frame on a Mac Studio Ultra and it appears for 2 seconds in the regular way, only to change into a grey rectangle with the ... 

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Esteban Xbender

Hello everyone. when I click to open web browser on this machine message in miraweb I am getting ''max could not launch url, err=1223'' message error.  Does anyone can help to this issue?

miraweb-err_1223

We've stumbled into the same issue a few hours apart! Seems the issue is specifically with version 1.2.7, the workaround for now is to downgrade to 1.2.6:

On the package manager page for Miraweb, click "Show All Available Versions" and click 1.2.6. Now there should be a blue button for you to click which says "Downgrade to v1.2.6"...or maybe just "Install" if you don't have it installed anymore.

Apparently they're working on a solution, other people have reported the same issue:
https://cycling74.com/forums/miraweb-not-working-on-windows-after-upgrading-to-max-8-3-2-and-miraweb-1-2-7 
https://cycling74.com/forums/max-could-not-launch-url-miraweb 

Miraweb, err_1223 

Hou Lam Wu

I'm running Max 8.3.1 on a Windows 10 computer, which Miraweb 1.2.6 works with it until I updated both today to Max 8.3.2 and Miraweb 1.2.7. 
The returned websocket connection info was websocket connection available at: http://none:-1
I have Bonjour Printer Services installed.
Wonder if there are any leads?


I'm running Max 8.3.1 on a Windows 10 computer, which Miraweb 1.2.6 works with it until I updated both today to Max 8.3.2 and Miraweb 1.2.7.

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Same problem here. Have anyone a solution or clue to fix it?

Downgrading Miraweb to the previous version solves the problem. The Max version has no effect, it seems.

Thank you both, it does look like this is an issue specifically with 1.2.7 on Windows. We're working on this, and for now I'd recommend using 1.2.6 in the meantime. 

Hey, it is not possible to downgrad to 1,2,6 the server comes with an error, have tryed 1.2.5 and 1.2.6.
I just can-t get it to work on windows.

Hi Henry, can you send a report to support@cycling74.com describing how you are attempting to downgrade to 1.2.6 and where the error shows? 

Miraweb not working on Windows after upgrading to Max 8.3.2 and Miraweb 1.2.7

Joaquim Branco

Hi everybody!
I'm having problems with mira and miraweb. 
Put it simply, I can't connect mira.frame with mira in my iPad. Error POSIX 70007. 
I also can't connect miraweb to a page external to my Mac. Error loading page, too much time.
Firewall checked; upgrades checked; uninstalled/reinstall checked; 
Does anyone have a clue!

Are there other ways of getting different devices talk to each other in a wireless net, with the same practicability and usability, in max/msp?

Hi everybody!
I'm having problems with mira and miraweb. 
Put it simply, I can't connect mira.frame with mira in my iPad. Error POSIX 70007.

mira-and-miraweb-don't-work

hello Joaquim, 
today I have the same problem, no possible to work with MIRA on iPad, POSIX error 70007 ! nobody as solution (s) please ? Time to time this pb is coming, but after restart all is ok, not now ... only with usb connection...
thanks
Philippe

Since some two or three years til now, I'm not able to work with those connections, miraframe and miraweb. I've tried the cycling74 support, but they also don't know what's happening, and the way to solve this. Well, the guy who responded to my complaint. Very, very annoying. 
I guess that, being this a rare problem, they just won't work on this. 

hello Joaquim, I think I understand what is a problem, it's to working with wi-fi connection my small box Internet link in my studio (TP-LINK TL-WR902AC - routeur ). Strange because usualy he work correctly... All is ok if I'm work with my Internet box, I will test after reset all.

helle Joaquim, all is ok now in my studio, the TP-Link is probably the pb. best

It happens that I've tried, all this time, several things, including changing the network, firewall stuff, restarts, updates, whatever. Nothing.
In my Mac, it doesn't work at all.

hello, sorry, it's strange thing. Do you work with your wi-fi Internet box directly, not with routing or other hardware? For me it's wi-fi origin problem. best

Hello Philippe! 
I've found it: 
filters and proxies:
com.checkpoint.fw.app

Mira and miraweb don't work

Are there any significant differences between Mira and Miraweb?  
I have the Miraweb, tests working very well on a M1 Mac and Android clients. I wonder if I miss some functionality using the Miraweb instead of Mira on an Ipad?  I have no Ipad to check out myself and did not find any statements what would be different, if anything. Could some one tell? Thanks!


Are there any significant differences between Mira and Miraweb?  
I have the Miraweb, tests working very well on a M1 Mac and Android ... 

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Mira vs Miraweb

Ben Bracken

We've released a small update to the Miraweb Package, as well as published updates to Xebra.js and Xebra-Communicator on NPM.

For a more detailed overview of involved bugfixes and enhancements  please refer to the change log below or visit the GitHub repository (https://github.com/Cycling74/miraweb)

You can find Miraweb 1.2.5 in the Max Package Manager.

Xebra.js and Xebra-Communicator are on NPM:
https://www.npmjs.com/package/xebra.js
https://www.npmjs.com/package/xebra-communicator 

number: no longer produces unnecessary NaN

Pixi.js: removed custom PixiJS dependency

Max 8 compatibility: live.dial, message, umenu, meter~

live.tab: only output when tab selection changes

We've released a small update to the Miraweb Package, as well as published updates to Xebra.js and Xebra-Communicator on NPM.
For a more det

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We've released a small update to the Miraweb Package, as well as published updates to Xebra.js and Xebra-Communicator on NPM. For a more ...

+ iPad M series + iPad 16" coming + Massive Mira Update = pleeeeze!

MIRA for me as an av performer and PhD researcher, has been one of THE most helpful and liberating software devs in MAX - because it ...

I also have the same issue. Did you ever resolve this?

thanks for the support!

For me, it only displays the first 2 channels of a 6-channel signal.

I open a mira.frame on a Mac Studio Ultra and it appears for 2 seconds in the regular way, only to change into a grey rectangle with the ...

Thank you a lot my friend. It's worked.

Hi Henry, can you send a report to support@cycling74.com describing how you are attempting to downgrade to 1.2.6 and where the error shows? ...

Hello Philippe! I've found it: filters and proxies: com.checkpoint.fw.app That's it! I turned it off.

Are there any significant differences between Mira and Miraweb? I have the Miraweb, tests working very well on a M1 Mac and Android ...