johannes

hello, 
anyone knows if there already is a arm64 compatible version of the  shell external  available?
best, johannes

shell-external-arm64-compatible-version

https://github.com/jeremybernstein/shell/releases/tag/1.0b3

shell external - arm64 compatible version?

Jean-Philippe Jullin

I'm looking to dynamically load sounds into a buffer using poly~ during a live performance. I don't want to use polybuffer~ because I want several hundred sounds to be accessible, but as they last between 30sec and 10min each, the total is about ~30GB.

The thing is that I use a coll to know whether a sample is already in one of the instances. When an instance is free, it gets the sample ID I want to play, write in a coll that this sample is loaded (I just add 0 to the entry to close a gate for the next time this number is seen). When the sample has been played, it is supposed to delete the entry in the coll.

And here is the sub patch used in poly~ (you can name it _player)


The thing is that everything seems to be working fine, until I start to be frenetic (which will obviously be the case live). Some weird numbers get inside the coll, some entry are numbered by numbers never sent, and I often even have multiple entries with the same identifier: 
40, 0;
40, 0;
40, 0;
40, 0;

To replicate, you can drop an audio folder and click Play Random. If you wait for the sample to finish playing, the corresponding ID in the coll should be deleted. But if you click Play Random several times, some entries remain in the coll. If you check whether some numbers have been sent or not, this is usually not the case.

Am I facing a threading problem? Where are these numbers coming from?

Hi everyone,
I'm looking to dynamically load sounds into a buffer using poly~ during a live performance. 

dynamic-buffer-loading-using-poly~


i suppose you didnt take into account that readong from disk and/or freeing the buffer is not thread safe and then at some position message order gets lost. did you debug it yet?


you should redesign the whole thing.
replace random with urn and it will not repeat genearted number till all
get output.



@Roman Thanks. I didn't know about the thread safety issue. 

@Source Audio The thing is that random here is just for demonstration purpose. The sample request will come from a pre-analyzed map of all the samples that I navigate.  The idea is to load in buffer the 10 nearest points only, and once a sample is loaded I don't want it to be loaded again. 

I tried to get out from the poly~ the availability checker, and simplified the patch but with no success. Still unseen numbers getting inside the coll. 

How would you keep track of loaded samples inside a poly~, while knowing if it has been freed or not?

get all colls out of poly subpatchers and keep only 1 coll in main patch.
send all messages to poly instances using target messages, which will then be stored in coll,
like index 3 means target 3 (poly voice 3), then insert sample name to know it was loaded
into that voice.
when target finishes playing you do whatever you want with that information.
it is trivial task to do so.
To exclude samples from "available" list - there are soo many ways to do that,
but I won't go into options without knowing exact & simple
layout of what you want to achieve.
I can't really follow the whole logic and what should be random etc




@source audio Thanks. I think I finally found it.

The problem seems to come from the delete message sent to coll. I don't know why, but it seems that it adds random numbers inside the coll when there is a lot going on.

Here is some kind of solution, pre-adding all samples ID and turning them to 0 when they are loaded.

Dynamic buffer loading using poly~

Nicolas Hume

Hi,  
How can I send a buffer to arduino by the serial port and then transcribe it to a screen? 
Thank you in advance,


send-a-buffer-to-arduino

[peek~] allows you to get each sample value from a buffer. 
The rest is Arduino stuff I guess, you should look to some Arduino example code probably included in your screen's Arduino library. 

Send a buffer to Arduino

Megan Hung

Hi, I really need help. I bought MAXMSP few days ago and tried to authorize it. However, when i click the authorize button, the screen appears blank. I've tried to reinstall several times, and still get the problem. 
Any solution? Thanks

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Hi, I really need help. I bought MAXMSP few days ago and tried to authorize it. 

i-can't-authorize-maxmsp

Please get in touch with our support to resolve your authorization issues as they will be able to help you in the best way with this problem.

Hi! I’ve sent mail to cycling support several times, they  replied the solution last week. Since none of the way they said can be solved, they started to going in circle…..

if you expect to get better help from forum then from cycling support team ????
at least post more details and what you allready tried.

It could be as simple as internet connection, privileges etc

did you try to open package manager ?
I see you are on mac, run executable in Max.app/Contents/MacOS directly,
maybe terminal will post some infos


it seems that max starts to rebuild database and probably either fails or needs long time to do so.
I remember that being reported here in the forum,
where Max app would not seem to start up at all.
Did you get package manager to open and connect to remote packages?

that paceap.eden bla bla errors are irrelevant, you seem not to try to authorise using ilok dongle, or ?

https://support.cycling74.com/hc/en-us/articles/360050780833-iLok-Authorization

Oh, and  any solution for this in that forum? 
Well, I cannot connect to package manager. I've tried to open it, but it shows blank screen.
Yes, I didn't authorize from ilok, though I've downloaded it(But it shows unavailable message). Is it necessary to authorize by ilok?

I can't authorize MAXMSP

Owen Fender

Hi everyone. I'm a complete newb when it comes to Max, and sensors and stuff. I'm using a BITalino (r)evolution Plugged Kit BT and at the moment I'm just trying to use a breath sensor at 100Hz to control a sine wave in Max. I have this patch:

I have also tried importing the raw data in .txt format, using this patch:

Can someone help get me started. It would be much appreciated.

bitalino.maxhelp

Perf_Patch_1.0.maxpat

Hi everyone. I'm a complete newb when it comes to Max, and sensors and stuff. I'm using a BITalino (r)evolution Plugged Kit BT and at the mo

using-bitalino-sensors-with-max

Hi Owen 
Im struggling with the same problem but from few weeks.Did You come up with any solution?
Cheers,Luke

post what exactly you struggle with.
do you have that ircam external load  and - into which OS / Max version
does it recognise the board and so on



Using Bitalino sensors with Max

Per Frances

First, I would like to say that I'm a new Max user, and while I love working with the program there is plenty that I don't understand.

I downloaded a set of audio patches created by a Max user, and when I went to open them in Max I found that the UI for each of the patches seemed to be missing their inlets/outlets. I have been trying to find a way to connect these patches to other devices, like synths and effects, so I can use them (even to output to gain/ezdac) but I have not figured it out. (The creator has a series of youtube videos demonstrating the patches where they seem to connect to other patches with no problem)

Confusingly, a little while I tried again to open one of the patches with bpatcher and suddenly, the inlets and outlets were there. I went to open the other patches and only found an empty box in the patcher window, with no programming outside of the 'presentation' view. This now happens whenever I try to open any of the patches with bpatcher, just an empty space. I've tried to create the situation that let me open the patch with its inlets/outlets that one time, but I can't figure that one out either. (I can 'open' the patches into their own patcher window and control the UI but, again, there seems to be no way to connect it to anything)

Any advice on how to troubleshoot this problem would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for reading!

Hi everybody,
First, I would like to say that I'm a new Max user, and while I love working with the program there is plenty that I don't ... 

trouble-with-inletsoutlets-on-downloaded-audio-patches

wherever you got that max patches from,
they must be missing structure  patch-subatch-bpatcher,
embeded or not and so on and so on.
maybe some youtube "instructors" need some education themself,
in order to pack example materials into usable form...

one can not understand from what you describe what exactly is missing,
better would be to post some examples.



if inlets are missing it could simply be that they are not found.

do you have the files moved into the max search path before calling their names?

doubleclick the object boxes to open them in order to check if that is the case.

Trouble with inlets/outlets on downloaded audio patches

Frederik la Cour

the "folder" object in max https://docs.cycling74.com/max8/refpages/folder only connects the first time.

I am currently working on a patch where I need to connect to a folder on an external drive from a Roland boutique drummachine. I am able to do so which is great, however only one time, if I disconnect the external drive and then reconnect it and tries again it doesnt work, unless I delete and repaste the objekt in again.

is there a way to make the objekt autorefresh itself so it can connect multiple times in the same instance? Is this something you guys will fix in a later patch?

the "folder" object in max https://docs.cycling74.com/max8/refpages/folder only connects the first time.
I am currently working on a patch ... 

folder-object-in-maxmsp-only-works-one-time-with-external-drive-folders

did you make a mistake to enter path into folder object as argument
and expect that it will auto refresh contents if one removes the drive ?

that does not work.

you need to send absolute path to folder object to reload it once drive is again available.


Folder object in MaxMSP only works one time with external drive folders

Ben Bracken

We've just released Max 8.3.2! This update focuses on fixing regressions, OS-related issues, and improving support for newer Jitter features.

As always, you can download the update here: 
https://cycling74.com/downloads

For a full list of all Max 8.3.2 improvements, check out the change log below, or here:
https://cycling74.s3.amazonaws.com/support/version_8_3_2.html

New Features:
• jit.gl.pbr: 'sendinput' message
• jit.gl.pbr: environment texture support
• jit.gl.pbr: more texture support (matrix/texture inputs)
• js/jsui: pattrstorage support
• Packages: install when drag and dropping a .maxpack
• textedit: 'valuemode' attribute to store items as an atom
• vst~: 'midievent' Real-Time message support
• zl: 'fuzzy' attribute

Fixed Bugs:
• attrui: mc.gen~ float param is scrollable
• Audio Status: fixed frozen transport / hang with "None" i/o device
• Audio Status: sample rate displayed correctly with Lynx AES16e card
• Color Selector: theme-aware
• comparison operators: support floats in either/both inlets
• crosspatch / matrix~: UI reflects change when gain value is a float
• crosspatch: fixed memory leak
• curve~ / line~: bangs when last duration is 0
• curve~ / line~: does not bang on transport tempo changes
• curve~ / line~: fixed 'stop' message
• curve~ / line~: fixed issues with simultaneous input of different priorities
• dial: fixed attr label typo
• Dynamic Colors: preserved for object box borders
• Dynamic Colors: restored when loaded in a different Live theme
• fullscreen windows: fixed black bar across top of screen
• Gen Autocompletion: improved matching / text replacement
• Help Patches: improved word wrap for JA Translations
• Inspector: misc improvements to colors displays
• jit.cellblock: removed 80 char limit when typing into a cell
• jit.gl.cubemap: mipmap generation fixes
• jit.gl.lua (GL3): supported in GL3
• jit.gl.node/pix/slab (GL3): proper mipmap generation on capture output
• jit.gl.pbr: fixed "blue tint" when rendering (Mac M1 only)
• jit.gl.pbr: fixed crash when enabling rendering
• jit.gl.pbr: fixed metal/roughness maps when parallax enabled
• jit.gl.pbr: retains parallax when jit.world deleted
• jit.gl.pbr: textures are oriented correctly
• jit.gradient.ui: Fixed crash when loading json
• jit.matrix: jpeg imports correct colors
• jit.movie (AVF): fixed 'frame' message
• jit.record: cannot overwrite existing directory
• jit.world /jit.window: resized when exiting fullscreen mode and floating is enabled
• Jitter GL3 lighting: hemishpere flag enabled for default lighting
• js / Projects: require() files are included
• js post(): supports longer arrays
• js: Folder() can find folders in current Project
• jsparamlistener: reports parameter automation
• jsui: fixed crash when abstraction is set with @filename 1
• live.button: drawing improvements
• live.meter~ / live.gain~: fixed drawing when patcher zoomed
• live.object: fixed Live crash on double-clicking an error
• loadbang: fixed recursive loadbang issues
• Max Console: "yellow" dot for warnings
• Max for Live Device: fixed hang when setting Development Path Type
• Max for Live Device: does not save erroneous data in .amxd
• Max for Live: fixed Gen crashing
• mc.poly~: fixed up/down sampling
• midiparse: midievent message comes out first
• midiselect/midiparse/midiformat: improved 14-bit @hires calculations
• New From Clipboard: eliminated extra loadbang
• New From Clipboard: fixed crash when loadbang triggers bpatcher creation
• Package Manager: fixed issues when accent is in user name (Win only)
• Package Manager: refined conditions for 'updates available' notification
• panel: default bgfillcolor is correct in Max for Live
• panel: improved inlet color
• past: fixed list comparison
• pattrstorage: improved speed of writing XML files
• pattrstorage: support dict values in legacy XML files
• pink~: uses xoshiro256 (like noise~)
• playlist~: fixed out of memory error
• plot~: domain set from stored values
• poly~: fixed crash when parallel is enabled in Max for Live
• poly~: fixed crash after changing voice count with no patcher loaded
• poly~: fixed MPE caching off-by-one error when 'mpemode' is enabled
• poly~: improved calculation of sample offset
• ramp~: reduced min value difference and duration
• Reference Sidebar: fixed broken links
• Save Dialog: fixed crash (MacOS 10.11 only)
• sflist~: fixed crash on 'open' message
• sfplay~: file can be loaded with "preload" after delete/undo delete
• sfplay~: fixed crash when playing / seeking high channel count files
• sfplay~: fixed cue initial frame calculation
• sfplay~: fixed sample rate conversion calculation
• sfplay~: seek message works with timestretching enabled
• Sidebar Reference: fixed JA Translations in info pane
• snapshot~: made interval / non-interval bang reporting consistent
• snowfall~: endmode 1 works when input is 0
• standalones: can build on Mac machines factory shipped with OS 12.5
• tri~: fixed right inlet assist
• umenu: fixed duplicated items when there are spaces in items
• updown~: improved behavior with short ramps
• VIDDLL: fixed black output when context is rebuilt
• what~: fixed high value triggering
• Windows: fixed issues with hidden Save dialog when machine is busy
• zl: fixed warnings when performing symbol comparisons
• zl: right inlet list preserved when changing zlmaxsize

We've just released Max 8.3.2! This update focuses on fixing regressions, OS-related issues, and improving support for newer Jitter features

max-8-3-2-released

poly~: fixed crash when parallel is enabled in Max for Live

thanks a lot for the fast response! this will make my Max-life much easier :)

Hello,
Has the hyperthreading issue that appeared in 8.2 been fixed in this release? (ie. using a poly~ with the multithread 1 message only used every other virtual core. Affects Windows with Intel and AMD CPUs, don't know if it happens on MacOS too).

Thanks to the team for always keeping the updates coming. 

Great list of bug fixes! I'm particularly pleased to see the M4L gen instability. These kind of things can be hard to fix. But I'm also excited to see a long list of items addressed across different areas. I had also experienced problems with curve~ / line~, so great to have those fixed. 

"js / Projects: require() files are included" seems like an understatement.  I'm happy to see jspainter files getting included in Projects automatically as well.  :)

Wow what an upgrade, super, finally large file support, many thanks

BUT: since Max 8.3.2 I cannot open subpatcher. To be more precise some subpatchers in a big patch open others don't and it stays that way until I quit Max and start again. When I open the main patch all the folders that I tried to open appear open as well. It is not always the same subpatcher that won't open. I can repeat this all the time. Hint: when I double-click a subpatcher that won't open, the top of the main patch blinks, I don't know if that is a helpful info. 

I also copied a non-opening subpatcher into a new patcher and it won't open there either.

Those non-opening subpatcher that have a pcontrol also do not open with message "open"

Hope you have a fix for that, thanks

It is normal that the download link for 8.3.2 (win 64) leads to "Max831_220510.zip" ?

I wonder, could you try clearing your cache or doing a clean reload of the download page (FE shift+cmd +r on Firefox)?

Control + anything shortcuts don't work at all anymore

edit: they sometimes do and sometimes don't

Same issue with some keyboard shortcuts that don't always work. (Windows11)

I confirm.
Windows 10 here.
"A" works
"Ctrl" works.
Ctrl+A doesnt work
.


I'm on Windows 10 and they all seem to work for me.

I'm not sure if it helpful info - for guys who at Windows (10 in my case) - i have suggestion always uninstall older build of MAX, before install new. Ie do not use replacement.
This is my personal observation, not claiming relevance. Just, thus i been avoid some problems that i had couple builds back.
Tnx for update.

even better, don't install max, but extract msi file to external folder.
Then copy all DLL's that land in system into max folder.

That way there is no trace of installed max, and no need to uninstall it, 
or any trouble with running different versions.
I keep several max7 and max8 versions like that and use whatever I want,
modify exe files to my needs if I want etc.

There is a bug with 8.3.2 that we are currently working on. Some patches are opening too high on the screen, while others are opening entirely off-screen. If you have a patch that appears to not open (including subpatches and the "Launch" patch of packages in the Package Manager) it is most likely due to this bug. There are two workarounds you can do:

For patches that are opening too high on the screen (the patcher title bar is under the Max menubar), bring the patcher in focus, then go to Window > Zoom. That will bring the top of the patcher back into view and allow you to resize it.

For patches that are opening  entirely off-screen, go to the Window menu and option-click on the  patch name. This will get the patcher to jump into view.

If you prefer to downgrade to 8.3.1, you can download that version from here.

If you encounter any other bugs with 8.3.2, please reach out to us at support@cycling74.com. 

Hi,

jit.record isn't working anymore after the update.
if I want to write a file I get the message:
jit.record: file /Volumes/Macintosh HD/Users/hello/Documents/test.mov is not a movie file, can't overwrite 

luckily i had an previous Max (8.1.5) version which still work properly

@aartcore Please send a message to Support, support@cycling74.com, with a simple patch that  illustrates the issue, along with steps to reproduce and your Max support information. 

Hi just another minor glitch I've noticed when debugging.

@BARTOK We should have a fix for this in an upcoming release, but in the meantime, you could remove the Lato font from the system using Font Book.

Max 8.3.2 Released

Sébastien Schiesser

Hi community
Trying to control a bigger max project with a MIDI hardware (novation Launchpad X (LPX)), I am facing the following issue:
- I'd like to navigate between tabs with the left/right arrow button on the LPX
- If I map the received CC 94 to a 'setactivetab' command (see screenshot), this value will be "locked" to that specific command. Somewhere else in the project, I'd like to be able to use it again to navigate between other tabs.

In a more general aspect, I would like to be able to re-assign the MIDI notes (11 to 88) and CC for different purposes depending where I am currently located in the project. Something like a 'onFocus' switch?

Thanks for your great ideas :-)
Sébastien

image.png

Hi community
Trying to control a bigger max project with a MIDI hardware (novation Launchpad X (LPX)), I am facing the following issue:
- ... 

enable-midi-messages-only-for-focus-window

it is a simple rule : don't saw off the branch you're sitting on

in simple words you need hard wired navigator, and then you can
assign the rest depending on which patcher is active.
there is active max object for that, you insert one into each patcher
and they can open or close the gate to receive midi messages,
which then can be reassigned etc for that patcher.
I would insert umenu filled with tab names and use next or prev messages to scroll arround


Don't know what that 2 left/right arrow buttons send, but maybe you can also reset to specific tab by long hold - release or double tap in one direction....

Great! I didn't know about the active object, that exactly does what I was asking for.
I will also make use of the umenu in order to get a bit of order.
Thanks for your advice.

Enable MIDI messages only for focus window

chapelier fou

Let's say I have a Coll collecting pairs of numbers (one entry, one number). I want to have a maximum of one entry associated with a value x. 

So for instance, 
if entry 1 = x
then entry 2 = x 
how to remove entry 1 ? 

Let's say I have a Coll collecting pairs of numbers (one entry, one number). 

coll-remove-an-entry-if-associated-value-x

you dump the coll and collect all indexes and values that match.
then you remove all but 1 matching index from the coll.
which index should survive depends on coll sorting, and how you deal with it.

In coll help file you will find all you need to know about remove or delete


That's what I figured out, but I thought there was maybe a more 'built-in' way to do it. 
Thanks ! 

Well, I can't get my head around this and would love some help. 
I'm building a pitch quantizer. Basically you set up the 'possible' notes and incoming notes are rounded to the nearest possible note. [I have this part working.] 
The tricky part is how to handle notes-off : in case the 'possible notes' change while notes are being held, some notes might get stuck. 
So I thought I should track each incoming note on and associate it with the 'resulted' note out. So whenever an incoming note-off occurs, it looks at the correct note to close.  [I have this part working].
But what if note A producing X is held, then B producing X is held, then A is closed ? I don't want X to be closed when A is closed. See what I mean ? 
Here's where I'm at. 


you don't state how you want to deal with multiple x pitch note ON messages in first place.
Shoul they be ignored - means that any new note ON of same pitch
should be ignored as well as all but last note Off - to turn that note off.
Or something else ? Like retrigger the note with new velocity and reduce held notes count ?
When you set your goal then it is easier to deal with note input and
the rest.


When a new X pitch note ON occurs, I want the most recent one to produce a new note ON, and ignore the notes OFF from the previous one(s). 

you could set last received matched source note 
and accept only note off from it.
You would then need to cut every note first using  message 
$1 0, $1 $2

that would first turn note off, then retrigger it with new velocity.


Thanks a lot for your help ! Will test asap. 

I had a look into your code.
You make no priority when shifting notes based on allready held notes.
For example if valid ones are C and D,   C# at input does not care if one allready has
either C or D  note ON. It picks fastest match up or down, (uzi race)
in case of larger interval, closer one gets picked.
In this case one can optimise your patch a lot, by populating coll with allready assigned
notes to shift, like
0, 0;
1, 0,
2, 2;
3, 2;
4, 4;
5, 5;

Wow, thanks so much for taking the time to patch this. It seems to work fine, except that when you change the valid notes, you've got a chance to miss some incoming notes. I need to figure out what's causing this. Probably the mousefilter. Or the del. 
In the final patch, the main kslider  will be replaced by real-time midi input. 
I can't focus right now, but hopefully tomorrow. 
Thanks again. 


The patch has 2 parts
1- to create input - output map instead of calculating shift on input notes
2- to remember last input note that trigered output note and only use it's note off.
All works fine in Max, but I have no idea what timing problems could arrise if used in Ableton Live.
I did not expect that scales change too fast on the fly, and maybe one should better deal with
invalid states, like no scale set or only 1 note in the scale etc.
I would suggest that you store coll note mappings as named scales
and recall them instead of creating them each time.

also this :



$1 0, $1 $2 
to turn note off before retriggering it will fail if you use kslider,
because GUI elements disturbe execution.



$collection->reject(fn ($value) => $value == “alarms”))

This will return a new collection with all entries except alarms.

Thanks again. 
I really like setting scales on the fly with a MIDI keyboard, and that can be changing fast. It's a lot of fun. So, storing scale 'presets' is not an option in my case. 
Not sure if triggering a note off before retriggering is really necessary, as the instruments in Ableton Live seem to handle only one voice per note (in other terms, automatically closes the notes). 

this would be faster variant - input as a list.
if you want to create scales on the fly, even using midi input,
you have to organise collection into valid list and all the rest.


Thanks again, 
the part of the patch that handles the notes off, I'll probably use it a lot. 
The whole thing works really good. 
Now I'm making a new version that allows to add 'weight' to individual notes, and instead of picking up the closest note, the algorithm would chose the best candidate based on the score on the formula 1/distance*weight for every possible pitch. 
It's not easy to code, but I can see a lot of potential for generative music. 


Coll : remove an entry if associated value = x ?

Andrew Benson

With this latest Max release (8.1.6), we've added a long list of new features to mtr that support more creative usage of this classic Max object. To celebrate the release, we put together a video and patcher that uses mtr to drive a granular sound engine with looping parameters.

In addition to the expansive looping and overdubbing features, mtr now supports dictionary access, event editing via messages, pattr-style binding, and transport sync. We look forward to seeing and hearing what you make with it.

With this latest Max release (8.1.6), we've added a long list of new features to mtr that support more creative usage of this classic Max ob

-sharing-looping-gestures-with-mtr

its my first update since my purchase of full max licence so im not sure do I have to uninstall previous max version and then install the update OR do I just install the update into the same old folder and It automatically deletes the older version?

and do my snippets and libraries remain intact?

Hiya, Max updates are always a full install so there is no need to pre-install other versions. Your snippets and Preferences shouldn't be affected in any way.

I am aware that you don't need previous versions, but if you have them: do you need to first uninstall them yourself or does the new installation do that for you?

just install the update into the same old folder and It automatically deletes the older version

👆this(you'll be given a choice when running the installer to either 'replace' the old version of Max, or install alongside(allowing you to keep newer versions alongside older ones)... but either way, as long as you open and work within the 8.1.6 version of Max, you'll have access to the latest/8.1.6 version of the 'mtr' object - you don't need to uninstall anything first)

I try to adapt [mtr] for parameter recording for non real time rendering in Jitter.
This means recording with 60 frames per second and output of recorded parameters on bangs that are send from the rendering logic (meaning not equidistant intervals).
How to achieve that?

The "next" message unfortunately doesn't work, because it is event based instead of time step based and so will not work with parameters that are not updated every frame during recording.

([mtr] would help  to overcome limitations of the Non-real time 4K recording patch in  https://cycling74.com/tutorials/best-practices-in-jitter-part-2-recording-1 ).

Edit: I mean my attempt with "playatms" followed by "stop" feels clumsy.


Hello Andrew, [mtr] especially the pattr-style binding seems to be quite buggy in Max 8.1.8.
I tried to make a parameter recorder for non real time rendering (e.g. 60fps recording and slow and non equidistant playback based on the speed of the rendering), in order to overcome limitations of this one https://cycling74.com/tutorials/best-practices-in-jitter-part-2-recording-1/ .
I would like to know if one can use [pattrstorage @subscribemode 1], [autopattr] in parallel to [mtr @bindto].
In the following example it looks like after binding the sliders to [mtr] the subscription to the [pattrstorage] objects gets lost. Is this a general limitation ?

Hello Andrew,
I recently created a problem report about the MTR new version, but maybe I should have done it here.
https://cycling74.com/forums/mtr-new-version-read-argument-no-longer-work
As a new version of Max is currently in process, maybe it will solve it?
Thanks
Charles


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We are happy to announce the release of Max 7.3.4.  There are over 50+ bug fixes in this release,  with a focus on VIDDLL and Jitter improvements, as well as shipping with a BEAP Package update.

Please take a look at the change log below, and  as always, you can download the installers here: https://www.cycling74.com/downloads

Fixed Bugs:
• attrui / nslider / tab: fixed memory leak
• BEAP: miscellaneous fixes
• Debugging: fixed error when patch cord is disabled
• Export amxd from Project: device appropriately frozen
• fpic: no longer grows when force aspect is on
• Install: Max starts normally on other user accounts (Windows)
• jit.anim.path: no longer crashes on 'next' message
• jit.gl.camera / jit.gl.slab: fix for strange behavior with capture jit.gl.model @cull_mode 2 to jit.gl.slab
• jit.gl.model: finds model file in Project when using @file attr in object box
• jit.gl.multiple / jit.gl.material : mat_diffuse is appropriately applied to all instances
• jit.gl.multiple: fixed crash when second argument is > 10
• jit.gl.multiple: fixed drawing with certain rotatexyz values
• jit.gl.node: fixed capture output when sent directly to syphon
• jit.gl.pass: fix recursion crashes due to user error when setting layer and child attributes
• jit.gl.pix: fixed issues with only setting a @min param 
• jit.gl.slab: fixed crash when changing subdiv attribute
• jit.gl.slab: fixed errors when processing texture from capturing jit.gl.node
• jit.gl.textureset: misc bug fixes
• jit.grab: fixed clear message
• jit.movie: fixed unique behavior with still images
• jit.movie: no longer outputs after 'dispose' and @unique is set to 1
• jit.movie: restarts after stop when rate is set to -1
• jit.movie~: fixed usage in Max For Live
• jit.phys: fixed crash when filter count arg exceeds 10
• jit.playlist AVF engine: fixed playback when playing clip slot that is not looped
• jit.pwindow / OpenGL: fixes for rendering in Max For Live if certain vst plugs are loaded
• jit.pwindow: fixed use in bpatcher
• jit.record: fixed migaligned planes for certain dims
• jit.rubix: fix crash with 64 bit and fix all warnings
• Jitter OpenGL:  fixed invisible GL contexts in windows
• Jitter OpenGL: fixed 'turn' message errors
• Jitter: fix for software rendering with matrix context on Windows
• live.remote~ / gen~: fixed threading issues that was causing Live UI freezing
• Max For Live: fixed issues when clicking 'edit' in device toolbar
• maxurl: stability fixes
• midiformat: pitch bend input is constrained
• mira.frame: added to standalones
• miraweb multislider: size attribute is updated in browser when changed with list input
• Patching: patch cord color is retained when duplicating more than once
• Patching: Fixed crash when deleting patch cord
• pattrstorage: improved state recall and subscription list updates
• peak / trough: second inlet is hot
• playlist~: Fixed file ordering when dragging/dropping a folder
• playlist~: Playback properly continues after 'remove' message
• qlist: ‘fwd’ message with arg no longer freezes Max
• qlist: ‘set’ message appropriately uses arguments
• seq: fixed crash when reading saved text file
• Standalones: improvements for signing issues
• VIDDLL engine: fixes for memory leaks, a rework of 'File Open' functionality & misc other updates
• VIDDLL: Can now play pcm audio files
• VIDDLL: Fixed crash when audio-only files are loaded
• VIDDLL: Fixed photo-jpeg output_texture 
• VIDDLL: Improved support for prores codecs
• vst~ / character encoding: fixed charset issues when reloading Max patchers with VST snapshots

We are happy to announce the release of Max 7.3.4.  There are over 50+ bug fixes in this release,  with a focus on VIDDLL and Jitter improve

max-7·3·4-released

That looks like a ton of work.  Thanks for all improvements!

https://cycling74.com/forums/max-7·3·4-released/

What do you mean? Most browsers should handle the dots. Does this work for your needs?

https://cycling74.com/forums/max-7%C2%B73%C2%B74-released

twitter denied it. but that's absolutely not important, sorry.

Actually, that's good to know! I'll pass this along to our web team.

Question for a new Mac user. When I drag the new Max app into the Applications folder, this window pops up.

Should I replace the older version (7.3.3)?

@josh celli - Yes, replace unless you'd like to keep the old version around. In which case they can both co-exist. 

erhm, the download link brings me to this black page : https://cycling74.com/downloads#/?_k=ism669

now it's working. I can only suppose it was beeing worked on at the time i wrote this :)

I think, judging from my experience (the link kept taking me to the previous version's d/l page), that you're right. The announcement preceded the action!

wow, new viddll and hap engine in the same day.  what's new with the hap engine?

I was actually experiencing choppiness during a videos first loop thorugh (although after a loop  everything seemed to be smoother) with viddll 1.0.9 (but not in 1.0.7) driving frames ([metro]> [counter]>[prepend frame]) with h264 video, but it's smooth again in 1.1.0. This is without messing with the cache_size or loadram settings.

Hap update is just for compatibility with 7.3.4, no new features.

Yeah, this is really solid update, thanks!

Hey folks, we discovered an issue in this latest release with jit.movie playback crashing when using the viddll engine, and have updated the installers with a fix.

If you are a viddll user (i.e. anyone using jit.movie on Windows), I strongly recommend you re-download the 7.3.4 installer to get this update.

Hi Rob
Thanks for the update. I noticed that the new installer file (at least for Mac) has the same date as part of the file name as the old one. (Max734_170530.dmg). Does it also have the same build ID in the about Max dialog? What would be the best way to distinguish the 2 versions of Max 7.3.4? (I am asking this because I may have to identify the installed version on some students computers the next week) .

The build number may have changed. I'm seeing `de5a74a` in this build under About Max. (32-bit mac)

yes, de5a74a is the correct updated version.

Unfortunately no seamless loop @Viddll with h.264 files (win and mac). It stutteres at the end of the file. I'm pretty sure this was OK with viddll 1.0.9

I am not sure if it's the latest Max thing as I've just got a computer with Sierra 10.12.3 and I haven't tried older versions of Max on that system but saving patches is very buggy:

- usually it saves in wrong folder not the one that you specify (can't figure out how it chooses the folders)

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