Andy Maskell

I've been using the Sadam Library as part of my Max 8 mega-project for a while now whilst developing it on my Windows 10 laptop. I now have my workstation and new studio set up at last and whilst Max 8 works fine on its own and all the MIDI related sections of my project still work, any attempt to use any part of the Sadam Library causes Max to crash.

My laptop and workstation are both HP machines running the same version of Windows 10. They are both of a similar era and have Intel i7 processors. The only significant difference is that the workstation has a much more powerful (and newer) GPU card.

I have come across one post in the forum from a user experiencing the same problem a while back and the only solution proffered was to regress to Max 7. There is nothing on the Sadam support page about this.

Can anybody make any suggestions that might resolve my dilemma?

I've been using the Sadam Library as part of my Max 8 mega-project for a while now whilst developing it on my Windows 10 laptop. I now have 

sadam-library-causes-max-8-to-crash-on-windows-10-workstation

Haha! I've tried installing Max 7 and lo and behold the Sadam Library is no longer backward compatible! I'm having a go with an older version of Max 8 - 8.1.11

Nope! No joy there either. Updated graphics drivers, tried stopping various things from running, still crashes. Tried compiling the standalone on my laptop and copying the file across but the main window then appears as a load of bizarre shapes and shaded boxes! Maybe I'll try safe mode for a laugh!

Hi Andy, sorry to hear you have that trouble.

It must be something in the windows installation,

Same Max version used on both computers would not crash otherwise.

You can download and use older sadam library, back to 2010,

Whatever causes that crashes might bug you in different aspects.

I would start with deleting all packages,

patches, extras, settings etc from that workstation

and start from beginning, plain Max and sadam lib.

In worst case, start from external HD with tamed windows installation

Could be something with network settings ?

Or windows defender , firewall and such ?

I usually remove any trace of that shit from windows systems.

I'll have few windows laptops at hand in next days

which have no Max installed, could test sadam lib with max 8.3.1 for you

It must be something in the windows installation,
Same Max version used on both computers would not crash otherwise.

You can download and use older sadam library, back to 2010,
but I don't see that as ideal solution.

http://www.sadam.hu/en/software

Whatever causes that crashes might bug you in different aspects.
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I would start with deleting all packages,
patches, extras, settings etc from that workstation
and start from beginning, plain Max and sadam lib.

In worst case, start from external HD with tamed windows installation
and test there...
Could be something with network settings ?
Or windows defender , firewall and such ?
I usually remove any trace of that shit from windows systems.


I'll  have few windows laptops at hand in next days
which have no Max installed, could test sadam lib with max 8.3.1 for you



Thank you. I've managed to get it to work with the 2015 edition of the library files. In my case, I was only having problems with Sadam.UDPClient but the opening page for the Sadam Library in the Package Manager was having problems with at least one other object as I had to downgrade all the externals to the older versions to get that to work.

Quite where the conflict is I have no idea. I've spent hours picking through everything I can thing of to check that the configuration (down to the hardware) on both machines is the same. They are both machines that are stripped down to essentials only for my studio work. I keep all the power-user stuff on a totally separate machine!

I'm a happy bunny again now as I have been able to recompile the standalone and get it running properly on my workstation.

Sadam Library causes Max 8 to crash on Windows 10 workstation