Hi everyone! I'm opening this thread in case any of you have questions, doubts, suggestions, etc, related to the Vsynth Package.
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Many thanks for the vsynth package, I'm enjoying it a lot, great work. One thing I would like to see is the capability to automate effect parameters, eg on the rota object. Is this something you are considering?
Hi Paul, thanks for your words.
Taking into account we are inside Max and there are a lot of snippets out there to automate things, I won’t develop them myself (at least not for now). I’m focusing on the oscillators, cv_ins, envelopes, filters, that is, all that has to do with video synthesis. However, for the next update, I’m adding a control inlet in every module so you can externally control them in a Max-style way with whatever you want! Here is a screenshot that exemplifies this better. You can see I’m controlling parameters with Beap and Vizzie (but this can be whatever you want) by adding just one or two simple Max objects.
That's great news - being able to control vs parameters with standard Max objects will be even better. I think I had - incorrectly - assumed you were aiming for a fully self contained system. This will be much better.
Hi . First of all thanks for this brilliant tool. I tried your beta and was loving it ! im dying to try the new version ,but the max package manager doesnt like me today. any manual way of installing it? otherwise i will just wait
THANKS , great job!
Hey just passing by to say this is amazing, lots of thanks, having loads of fun, and it's useful to learn a bit about jit.gl.pix too :) One question about the feedback though, i'm not sure i understand when it can be connected, like what are the conditions and the logic behind it ? As i'm a noob in graphic generation and trying to use my little knowledge from audio synth to transpose it to this world.
Thanks so much for making this and sharing it with the community! I starting playing with V Synth about a week ago and I really love it! It’s so nice to have access to this process of image making without the insane price of modular hardware or their restrictions, especially fixed NTSC resolution!
I have a couple of questions that probably relate to the same issue:
1. Sometimes after building up a patch with many wave generators, I'll decide to unplug/delete one or more from either an FM path or mixer path but their feed continues to affect the generator or mixer it was previously connected to. Is this normal? I wonder if this happens because I am often copying module chains (alt-dragging) and the copied modules have overlapping named contexts by not being instantiated from the V Synth menu bar? Do VSynth modules have to be instantiated from the VSynth Menu Bar in order to function properly?
2. I've been trying to use Snapshots with my V Synth patches. I feel like Snapshots is a huge feature to be able to take advantage of within Max7, especially when compared to equipment based modular analog video synthesis, in which preset making is impossible. Many of the V Synth modules aren't natively visible by Snapshots but I have been able to make them visible by modifying controller objects within the original bpatchers. For example, in the CLRIZER module I've ticked 'Parameter Mode Enable' to ON for the 'swatch' object within the bpatcher and now it seems to work fine with Snapshots.
The big problem I had is that the native VSynth Menu Bar will create/instantiate a bunch of new modules every time I change presets in Snapshot. Often times these modules include new R3NDER modules which then create huge conflicts with the VSynth output window, sometimes even crashing Max7 in the process. Initially I tried to fix this within the V Synth Menu Bar by disabling 'Parameter Mode Enable' for the ‘coll’ object in that bpatcher. It seemed like it had worked until I tried to create a new VSynth module from the VSynth Menu Bar and I was no longer able to instantiate new modules at all. Reactivating the 'Parameter Mode Enable' for that coll didn’t work ( I now understand why) and I had to start again by completely reinstalling the VSynth Package.
Now I think I’ve figured out how to fix the issue with the VSynth Menu Bar. In the bpatcher for all of the ‘live.menu’ objects I have changed their ‘Parameter Visibility’ to ‘Hidden’.
I guess I’ve probably solved my problem here, but perhaps I can make a feature request out of this? Could all of the VSynth modules be made compatible with Snapshots in a future update? I’d be happy to give you notes or copies of my patches that I’ve fixed for this use, if you’d like.
Hi there. Really enjoying V Synth! Are the control parameter names for each module documented anywhere? Some are obvious, but others are not & having trouble guessing. For instance, on WFG_Shapes and WFG_2, the time parameter does not respond to the message "time x". Also, several parameters on XYZ.Displace are a mystery.
@VICHUG: you are doing feedback when you displace (frequency - position in the screen) or mix (amplitude - brightness) the video signal with itself (or with itself+process). Here an image of two simple feedback chains to illustrate. I’m working on a patch-book at the moment but in the meantime, you can also try with the cam_2 or a lumakey+framedelay among others. There are a lot of possibilities actually!
@TYSON: sorry for the delay and thanks for taking the time to write all this, really appreciated!
1. Is normal, is happening to me too and that's the reason why I didn’t add more ‘cv’ inputs to the modules. I think I found a way to solve this but I need to work and test it more before release it. I always alt-drag, thats not the problem!
2. I've started a preset system with the pattr familly objects but using the new Snapshots system sounds promising and easier/faster to develop. I will look at it and yes, of course I wanna see patches! Does Snapshots allow to morph between presets?
@JAKE RODRIGUEZ: they aren’t. I will post them in the next update. To control time you should write "/time 0”, “/time 1”, etc. You can always open up the bpatchers, is really easy to add your own control params!
Am interested in learning more about the Patchbook. I don't have Max, just use M4L inside Live. Will that limit what Vsynth/Patchbook can do? Is there a syphon out or other video out option to use with Live, or the ways to save your work?
@JCRYSTAL You can use the Patchbook without having the Vsynth Package installed. The difference is that you won't have the entire modular environment to build your own configurations but some configurations I came up with to produce certain visuals. Both configurations from the Starter Kit of course comes with Syphon Output. You can load them in your Live set and turn them on and off to have different 'scenes' with presets.
@BYOU, you can control all the modules externally by sending messages to the most right inlet. For midi mapping check the 'external_connection' tab on the Launcher and to see the complete list of the public variables go to the 'sync_time' tab.